WHY UNIVERSALISM IS NOT TRUE?

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I appreciate all the conversation. But it's time to move on. I really wondered where the UR people obtained their doctrine. After all these discussions I have come to realize what I suspected in the beginning, but wasn't convinced of until.all these conversations.

The UR doctrine is based upon feelings. I think it comes from a direct opposition to ECT. They can't wrap their minds around ECT because it's too horrible to contemplate. So there had to be the alternative. Which is either annihilation or everyone get saved.

And they don't want to see people annihilated.

I think it's really emotionally based. Which shows they have compassion. Which is a good thing.

Then they look for verses that might seem to support what they want to have happen. And bang they have their doctrine.

Unfortunately they leave out context which actually clarifies the verses don't really say what they thought they said. They take verses that clearly contradict their belief and turn them into saying something that they actually don't say at all. Because they have to in order to keep the doctrine alive.
 
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I appreciate all the conversation. But it's time to move on. I really wondered where the UR people obtained their doctrine. After all these discussions I have come to realize what I suspected in the beginning, but wasn't convinced of until.all these conversations.

The UR doctrine is based upon feelings. I think it comes from a direct opposition to ECT. They can't wrap their minds around ECT because it's too horrible to contemplate. So there had to be the alternative. Which is either annihilation or everyone get saved.

And they don't want to see people annihilated.

I think it's really emotionally based. Which shows they have compassion. Which is a good thing.

Then they look for verses that might seem to support what they want to have happen. And bang they have their doctrine.

Unfortunately they leave out context which actually clarifies the verses don't really say what they thought they said. They take verses that clearly contradict their belief and turn them into saying something that they actually don't say at all. Because they have to in order to keep the doctrine alive.

Thanks for making an effort. You're still labouring under many misapprehensions as to UR, sadly. I hope the HS will break out of the legalistic transactional mindset, because this I think is why you (and many others) have trouble coming to grips with this tradition of Bible interpretation, which I should add has had many great adherents through history, some of whom are listed here:
Tracing Universalist Thought Through Church History
 
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Thanks for making an effort. You're still labouring under many misapprehensions as to UR, sadly. I hope the HS will break out of the legalistic transactional mindset, because this I think is why you (and many others) have trouble coming to grips with this tradition of Bible interpretation, which I should add has had many great adherents through history, some of whom are listed here:
What misrepresentations of Universalism would that be? I do not see any misrepresentations at all in this thread to be honest.
 
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More scripture taken out of context. Take a look at what happens in chapter 14 and 16

And I saw, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud I saw one sitting like unto a son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.And another angel came out from the temple, crying with a great voice to him that sat on the cloud, Send forth thy sickle, and reap: for the hour to reap is come; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.And he that sat on the cloud cast his sickle upon the earth; and the earth was reaped.And another angel came out from the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.And another angel came out from the altar, he that hath power over fire; and he called with a great voice to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Send forth thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.And the angel cast his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vintage of the earth, and cast it into the winepress, the great winepress, of the wrath of God.And the winepress was trodden without the city, and there came out blood from the winepress, even unto the bridles of the horses, as far as a thousand and six hundred furlongs. - Revelation 14:14-20 Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 14:14-20 - American Standard Version

Recognizing God and Jesus as Lord does not guarantee salvation. Of course the Gentiles have access to salvation. That was promised. But the promise was never made that every Gentile WOULD be saved.

No, Christ IS the Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end. The ultimate righteous judge. And everyone who is NOT found in the Lambs Book is cast out. Forever. There are NO verses that proclaim that everyone gets saved. There are NO verses that say those cast I to the Lake of Fire are purged of their sin and ultimately are saved. In fact the scripture says the opposite of that. It's the people that are cast in. Nothing says they get back out.

You are making that up. No there is Nothing that says "overcome their unbelief". You are making that up. It's the overcomers who get in at the time. Not later.

You are just making stuff up because it doesn't fit your doctrine instead of making your doctrine fit what scripture says.
Thanks very much for your contribution here.

God bless
 
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The word is ἀπίστοις. Just as pistis is ambiguous, so is this. Pistis often means faithful, so this word often means faithless, lacking in fidelity (fide is the Latin version). That's not quite the same thing as non-Christian. I do agree that the author of the Revelation almost certainly didn't believe in UR.
Just wondering, isn't the faithless in general the "unbelieving" and if it is applied to Jesus therefore non-Christian?
 
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Just wondering, isn't the faithless in general the "unbelieving" and if it is applied to Jesus therefore non-Christian?
Faithless could describe Christians who lack fidelity (pistils). Does it apply to all non Christians? Paul used Abraham as a model of faith. He responded to God, but not specifically to Christ. I think many people today would say that there are nonreligious people who behave with fidelity, but I doubt many of the Biblical authors would agree.
 
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Faithless could describe Christians who lack fidelity (pistils). Does it apply to all non Christians? Paul used Abraham as a model of faith. He responded to God, but not specifically to Christ. I think many people today would say that there are nonreligious people who behave with fidelity, but I doubt many of the Biblical authors would agree.
You misspelled pistols. - lol
Did you mean pistis?
 
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Faithless could describe Christians who lack fidelity (pistils). Does it apply to all non Christians? Paul used Abraham as a model of faith. He responded to God, but not specifically to Christ. I think many people today would say that there are nonreligious people who behave with fidelity, but I doubt many of the Biblical authors would agree.
I was not saying that it applies only to all non-Christians. I was only making the point that it can apply also to non-Christians because non-Christians do not have faith and whatsoever is not of faith is sin *Romans 14:23.

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According to the scriptures, the teachings of Universalism that all the wicked will be saved is not biblical. The false teachings of Universalism has it's origins from the lies that the serpent told Eve, in the garden of Eden and that is that you can disobey Gods' Word and not surely die *Genesis 3:1-5. Then we have that words of Jesus that say John 3:36, He that believes on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him. Who should we then believe, the teachings of the serpent in Eve, or the Words of God? According to the scriptures only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow them *Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29.

God bless.
 
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WHY IS UNIVERSALISM NOT BIBLICAL?

What is true within the teachings of Universalism is that there is no such thing as the Roman Catholic doctrine of eternal burning Hell. Very simply though the reason why Universalism is a false teaching is that the bible tells us so because there is no more second chances for the wicked at the second coming. For example...

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE WICKED AT THE SECOND COMING?

WICKED SHALL BE DESTROYED
Psalm 145:20 The Lord preserveth all them that love him, but all the wicked He shall destroy
Psalm 101:8 I will early destroy all the wicked of the land, that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the Lord
Psalms 37:9-11 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait on the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yes, you shall diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Proverbs 14:11, The house of the wicked shall be destroyed: but the tabernacle of the upright shall flourish.
Psalm 37:38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together; the end of the wicked shall be cut off
Psalm 92:7 When the wicked spring as the grass and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish, it is that they shall be destroyed forever
Psalms 94:23 He has brought back their wickedness upon them And will destroy them in their evil
The Lord our God will destroy them.
Proverbs 13:13 Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed; but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded
Proverbs 10:29 The way of the Lord is strength to the upright, but destruction shall be the workers of iniquity.
Hosea 7:13 Woe to them, for they have strayed from Me! Destruction is theirs, for they have rebelled against Me! I would redeem them, but they speak lies against Me
Philippians 1:28 in no way alarmed by your opponents—which is a sign of destruction for them, but of salvation for you, and that too, from God.
Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things
2 Peter 2:3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
2 Peter 2:12 But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed
2 Peter 3:7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
Jude 1:10 But these men revile the things which they do not understand; and the things which they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed.
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power.

THEY SHALL PERISH
Psalm 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat of lambs. They shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away
Psalms 1:4 The wicked are not so,But they are like chaff which the wind drives away.
Palms 1:6 For the Lord knows the way of the righteous, But the way of the wicked will perish.
Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish
Luke 13:3 Nay, but except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever should believeth on him should not perish but have everlasting life
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received no the love of the truth that they might be saved

THE WICKED SHALL BE BURNT UP
Matthew 3:12 Whose fan is in His hand, and he will throughly purge His floor, and gather His wheat into the garner. But He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest. And in the time of harvest, I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them. But gather the wheat into my barn
Hebrews 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
Malachi 4:1,3 For behold the day cometh that shall burn as an oven and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble and th day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts. It shall leave them neither root nor branch...And ye shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. The earth also and the works therein shall be burnt up

THE WICKED SHALL BE CONSUMED
Isaiah 1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed.
Psalm 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat of lambs. They shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away
Psalms 104:35a Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth and let the wicked be no more

THE WICKED SHALL BE DEVOURED
Psalm 21:9 Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the Lord shall swallow them up in His wrath, and the fire shall devour them.
Revelation 20:9 And they went up on th ebreadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indigination, which shall devour the adversaries

THE WICKED SHALL BE CUT OFF FROM THE EARTH

Psalms 37:2,9,22,28,34,38 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb...For evildoers shall be cut off, but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth...For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off...For the Lord loveth judgment and forsaketh not his saints; the are preserved for ever. But the seed of the wicked shall be cut off...Wait on the Lord and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it...But the transgressors shall be destroyed together; the end of the wicked shall be cut off
Isaiah 33:12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime. As thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire
Proverbs 2:22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it

THE WICKED WILL GO INTO PERDITION AND UTTER RUIN
Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul
2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and periditon of ungodly men

THE WICKED ARE COMPARED TO COMBUSTIBLE MATERIALS TO BE BURNED
Matthew 3:12. Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaffwith unquenchable fire.
Nahum 1:9-10 What do ye imagine against the Lord? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.
Matthew 13:40. "As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
John 15:6. "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

THE WICKED SHALL DIE
Ezekiel 18:4-9, 20 [4], Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, it shall die.
James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converts the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
John 8:24 I said therefore to you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 8:13 For if you live after the flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, you shall live.
Proverbs 15:10 Correction is grievous to him that forsakes the way: and he that hates reproof shall die.
Proverbs 19:16 He that keeps the commandment keeps his own soul; but he that despises his ways shall die.
Ezekiel 3:18-20 When I say to the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him not warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. Yet if you warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul. Again, When a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because you have not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at your hand.
Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All his righteousness that he has done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he has trespassed, and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die.
Ezekiel 18:26 When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and dies in them; for his iniquity that he has done shall he die.
Ezekiel 18:28 Because he considers, and turns away from all his transgressions that he has committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Ezekiel 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby you have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will you die, O house of Israel?
Ezeliel 33:8-9 When I say to the wicked, O wicked man, you shall surely die; if you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. Nevertheless, if you warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul.
Ezekiel 33:11, 13, 14, 15, 18 Say to them, As I live, said the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn you, turn you from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel?

THE WICKED SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortionists, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Revelation 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and fornicators, and murderers, and idolaters, and whoever loves and makes a lie.
Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, jealousies, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Contentions, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:5 For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous that is, an idolater, has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death

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There is no second chances for the unrepentant wicked at the second coming as the scriptures teach us in Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Universalism is a man-made teaching that makes a mockery of the cross and Gods' justice and judgement for sin and is a false teaching designed to lead all those who follow it away from God and His Word.

The false teachings of Universalism are simply the same lies given to mankind in Genesis 3:1-5 that we can disobey God and no surely die. This is the same lie given to Eve simply re marketed under the name of "Universal Reconciliation" which teaches the same lies that we can disobey Gods Word and not surely die.

What are your thoughts (friendly discussion please).

God bless :wave:
I think it comes down to what is being destroyed. I see it as the soul being destroyed not the spirit. No place that I have seen says the spirit is destroyed. Then we have to ask what is the soul. I see the soul as what we have made of ourselves our life what we have created. That is why Jesus said if you want to save your life you must lose it, we die to self and live to God our lives are a sacrifice to God a living sacrifice. But if we try to hold onto our lives we lose it , it will be destroyed. That’s why scripture tells us God can divide the soul from the spirit. Those who live their lives for themselves lose their soul but not the spirit.
 
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According to the scriptures, the teachings of Universalism that all the wicked will be saved is not biblical. The false teachings of Universalism has it's origins from the lies that the serpent told Eve, in the garden of Eden and that is that you can disobey Gods' Word and not surely die *Genesis 3:1-5. Then we have that words of Jesus that say John 3:36, He that believes on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him. Who should we then believe, the teachings of the serpent in Eve, or the Words of God? According to the scriptures only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow them *Romans 3:4; Acts of the Apostles 5:29.

God bless.
It’s not that UR is not Biblical it’s a matter of what verses you want to put emphasis on there are a lot of verses that support the view and those of us who are in the UR camp focus on those verses which are scripture and try to make the other scripture fit into those (which isn’t hard to do if you take the literal translation of aion being of the age or eon . Others focus on the verses they say are eternal separation or death and try to fit the other verses into to those . It’s really a matter of what you want to focus on and how you translate one word (aion) . So we could say the same thing about the view you hold also.
 
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What creed does it conflict with?
The point about "everlasting fire" appears at the end of the Athanasian Creed, it is contrasted with "life everlasting."
 
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The point about "everlasting fire" appears at the end of the Athanasian Creed, it is contrasted with "life everlasting."

Indeed, specifically, note Verse 41 (from the 1929 Scottish Episcopal Book of Common Prayer, which provides handy-dandy versification) @Jipsah

WHOSOEVER would be saved needeth before all things to hold fast the Catholic Faith.
2 Which Faith except a man keep whole and undefiled : without doubt he will perish eternally.

NOW the Catholic Faith is this : that we worship one God in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity;
4 Neither confusing the Persons : nor dividing the Substance.
5 For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son : another of the Holy Ghost;
6 But the Godhead of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one : the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.
7 Such as the Father is, such is the Son : and such is the holy Ghost;
8 The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated the Holy Ghost uncreated;
9 The Father infinite, the Son infinite : the Holy Ghost infinite;
10 The Father eternal, the Son eternal : the Holy Ghost eternal;
11 And yet there are not three eternals : but one eternal;
12 As also there are not three uncreated, nor three infinites : but one infinite, and one uncreated.
13 So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty : the Holy Ghost almighty;
14 And yet there are not three almighties : but one almighty.
15 So the Father is God, the Son God : the Holy Ghost God;
16 And yet there are not three Gods : but one God.
17 So the Father is Lord, the Son Lord : the Holy Ghost Lord;
18 And yet there are not three Lords : but one Lord.
19 For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity : to confess each Person by himself to be both God and Lord;
20 So are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to speak of three Gods or three Lords.
21 The Father is made of none : nor created, nor begotten.
22 The Son is of the Father alone not made, nor created, but begotten.
23 The Holy Ghost is of the Father and the Son not made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
24 There is therefore one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons : one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
25 And in this Trinity there is no before or after : no greater or less;
26 But all three Persons are CO-eternal together : and co-equal.
27 So that in all ways, as is aforesaid : both the Trinity is to be worshipped in Unity, and the Unity in Trinity.
28 He therefore that would be saved let him thus think of the Trinity.

FURTHERMORE it is necessary to eternal salvation : that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
30 Now the right Faith is that we believe and confess : that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and Man.
31 He is God, of the Substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds : and he is Man, of the Substance of his Mother, born in the world;
32 Perfect God : perfect Man, of reasoning soul and human flesh subsisting;
33 Equal to the Father as touching his Godhead : less than the Father as touching his Manhood.
34 Who although lie be God and Man : yet he is not two, but is one Christ;
35 One, however, not by conversion of Godhead into flesh : but by taking Manhood into God;
36 One altogether : not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person.
37 For as reasoning soul and flesh is one man so God and Man is one Christ;
38 Who suffered for our salvation : descended into hell, rose again from the dead;
39 Ascended into heaven, sat down at the right hand of the Father : from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
40 At whose coming all men must rise again with their bodies : and shall give account for their own deeds.
41 And they that have done evil will go into eternal fire and they that have done good into life eternal.

THIS is the Catholic Faith : which except a man do faithfully and stedfastly believe, he cannot be saved.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son : and to the Holy Ghost;
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be : world without end. Amen.
 
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Indeed, specifically, note Verse 41 (from the 1929 Scottish Episcopal Book of Common Prayer, which provides handy-dandy versification) @Jipsah

WHOSOEVER would be saved needeth before all things to hold fast the Catholic Faith.
2 Which Faith except a man keep whole and undefiled : without doubt he will perish eternally.

NOW the Catholic Faith is this : that we worship one God in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity;
4 Neither confusing the Persons : nor dividing the Substance.
5 For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son : another of the Holy Ghost;
6 But the Godhead of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one : the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.
7 Such as the Father is, such is the Son : and such is the holy Ghost;
8 The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated the Holy Ghost uncreated;
9 The Father infinite, the Son infinite : the Holy Ghost infinite;
10 The Father eternal, the Son eternal : the Holy Ghost eternal;
11 And yet there are not three eternals : but one eternal;
12 As also there are not three uncreated, nor three infinites : but one infinite, and one uncreated.
13 So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty : the Holy Ghost almighty;
14 And yet there are not three almighties : but one almighty.
15 So the Father is God, the Son God : the Holy Ghost God;
16 And yet there are not three Gods : but one God.
17 So the Father is Lord, the Son Lord : the Holy Ghost Lord;
18 And yet there are not three Lords : but one Lord.
19 For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity : to confess each Person by himself to be both God and Lord;
20 So are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to speak of three Gods or three Lords.
21 The Father is made of none : nor created, nor begotten.
22 The Son is of the Father alone not made, nor created, but begotten.
23 The Holy Ghost is of the Father and the Son not made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
24 There is therefore one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons : one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
25 And in this Trinity there is no before or after : no greater or less;
26 But all three Persons are CO-eternal together : and co-equal.
27 So that in all ways, as is aforesaid : both the Trinity is to be worshipped in Unity, and the Unity in Trinity.
28 He therefore that would be saved let him thus think of the Trinity.

FURTHERMORE it is necessary to eternal salvation : that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
30 Now the right Faith is that we believe and confess : that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and Man.
31 He is God, of the Substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds : and he is Man, of the Substance of his Mother, born in the world;
32 Perfect God : perfect Man, of reasoning soul and human flesh subsisting;
33 Equal to the Father as touching his Godhead : less than the Father as touching his Manhood.
34 Who although lie be God and Man : yet he is not two, but is one Christ;
35 One, however, not by conversion of Godhead into flesh : but by taking Manhood into God;
36 One altogether : not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person.
37 For as reasoning soul and flesh is one man so God and Man is one Christ;
38 Who suffered for our salvation : descended into hell, rose again from the dead;
39 Ascended into heaven, sat down at the right hand of the Father : from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
40 At whose coming all men must rise again with their bodies : and shall give account for their own deeds.
41 And they that have done evil will go into eternal fire and they that have done good into life eternal.

THIS is the Catholic Faith : which except a man do faithfully and stedfastly believe, he cannot be saved.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son : and to the Holy Ghost;
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be : world without end. Amen.
Here's a web version.
Athanasian Creed
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Indeed, specifically, note Verse 41 (from the 1929 Scottish Episcopal Book of Common Prayer, which provides handy-dandy versification) @Jipsah

WHOSOEVER would be saved needeth before all things to hold fast the Catholic Faith.
2 Which Faith except a man keep whole and undefiled : without doubt will perish eternally.
NOW the Catholic Faith is this : that we worship one God in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity;
4 Neither confusing the Persons : nor dividing the Substance.
5 For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son : another of the Holy Ghost;
6 But the Godhead of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one : the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.
7 Such as the Father is, such is the Son : and such is the holy Ghost;
8 The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated the Holy Ghost uncreated;
9 The Father infinite, the Son infinite : the Holy Ghost infinite;
10 The Father eternal, the Son eternal : the Holy Ghost eternal;
11 And yet there are not three eternals : but one eternal;
12 As also there are not three uncreated, nor three infinites : but one infinite, and one uncreated.
13 So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty : the Holy Ghost almighty;
14 And yet there are not three almighties : but one almighty.
15 So the Father is God, the Son God : the Holy Ghost God;
16 And yet there are not three Gods : but one God.
17 So the Father is Lord, the Son Lord : the Holy Ghost Lord;
18 And yet there are not three Lords : but one Lord.
19 For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity : to confess each Person by himself to be both God and Lord;
20 So are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to speak of three Gods or three Lords.
21 The Father is made of none : nor created, nor begotten.
22 The Son is of the Father alone not made, nor created, but begotten.
23 The Holy Ghost is of the Father and the Son not made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
24 There is therefore one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons : one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
25 And in this Trinity there is no before or after : no greater or less;
26 But all three Persons are CO-eternal together : and co-equal.
27 So that in all ways, as is aforesaid : both the Trinity is to be worshipped in Unity, and the Unity in Trinity.
28 He therefore that would be saved let him thus think of the Trinity.

FURTHERMORE it is necessary to eternal salvation : that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
30 Now the right Faith is that we believe and confess : that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and Man.
31 He is God, of the Substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds : and he is Man, of the Substance of his Mother, born in the world;
32 Perfect God : perfect Man, of reasoning soul and human flesh subsisting;
33 Equal to the Father as touching his Godhead : less than the Father as touching his Manhood.
34 Who although lie be God and Man : yet he is not two, but is one Christ;
35 One, however, not by conversion of Godhead into flesh : but by taking Manhood into God;
36 One altogether : not by confusion of Substance, but by unity of Person.
37 For as reasoning soul and flesh is one man so God and Man is one Christ;
38 Who suffered for our salvation : descended into hell, rose again from the dead;
39 Ascended into heaven, sat down at the right hand of the Father : from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
40 At whose coming all men must rise again with their bodies : and shall give account for their own deeds.
41 And they that have done evil will go into eternal fire and they that have done good into life eternal.

THIS is the Catholic Faith : which except a man do faithfully and stedfastly believe, he cannot be saved.
Glory be to the Father, and to the Son : and to the Holy Ghost;
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be : world without end. Amen.

My question is how 2 and 41 coinside as far as being tormented day and night for ever and ever (Rev 20:10)?

2 Which Faith except a man keep whole and undefiled : without doubt will perish eternally.

41 And they that have done evil will go into eternal fire and they that have done good into life eternal.
 
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It looks like the Eastern Orthodox version of the creed, which differs only in that it lacks the filioque, and which can be found in A Psalter for Prayer, published by the monks at Holy Trinity Jordanville, also precludes Annhilationism:

“For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven; He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.”
 
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