Russia Terraforming the Arctic: Cause of Global Warning

(The Arctic is part of Earth, so it is already "terra"formed...)

Hmmmm I've known about Russia activities to try to claim as much of the as they can. I'm actually worried about China trying to get it's hook their. The US has not protected its artic rights under Biden as it should have and prior to the Ukraine invasion Russia actually helped block China from trying to get their hooks their.


Terraforming? I'm a little skeptical on it but will have to look at your stuff later. I have however both joked and seriously suggested that global warming should be regarded as terraforming and that it is not universally bad, that as much as it hurts some nations with lots of coast that are very above sea level, it helps a number of countries and would help Canada and Russia immensely as well as some other cold Northern European countries and Alaska.


I'm a little skeptical of a lot of the global warming stuff believing their are lots of causes for it outside of humanity, but even if we are responsible it is not worth the cost to try to stop if people are right about fossil fuels because you need to make deep austerity cuts in their use to make a small dent in the problem, and global warming can help you as much as it hurts.


Another big issue is people acting like Climate Change is some big unnatural thing, when we have had a lot of climate change throughout ancient times and the last two millennia that had nothing to do with humans but other things like volcanoes, asteroids/meteors, solar flares etc. There are even theories that the sun functions on something like a 50 year cycle and much of our weather changes comes from that.

Ragdoll said:

I hope I posted this in the right part of this forum. This seems like a political issue to me so I'm posting it here.

I have never agreed with the radicals who push global warming on us. I have not noticed anything different about my local climate. Some winters are colder than others with more snow accumulation while other winters are not as cold or have less snow accumulation.

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The result of small global temperature increases will be less ice cover on all seas and far more variable weather swings, hot cold, wet/dry etc.
At some point with the ice caps gone, the global temps will stabilize about 8 degrees warmer. But the rising seas will displace a lot of of the earths population because they tended to settle on the waterfronts.

Pavel Mosko said:

Another big issue is people acting like Climate change is some big unnatural thing, when we have had a lot of climate change throughout ancient times and the last two millennia that had nothing to do with humans but other things like volcanoes, asteroids/meteors, solar flares etc. There are even theories that the sun functions on something like a 50 year cycle and much of our weather comes from that.

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Lots of disasters are natural. It still makes sense to avoid them if we can. The asteroid that wiped out dinosaurs was natural but we should still divert the next similar rock heading to our planet.

Whatever you believe this climate change is man made or not it is happening and it makes sense to at least slow it down to give nature time to deal with it or humans to come up with some groundbreaking technologies to control it.

Ragdoll said:

I hope I posted this in the right part of this forum. This seems like a political issue to me so I'm posting it here.

I have never agreed with the radicals who push global warming on us. I have not noticed anything different about my local climate. Some winters are colder than others with more snow accumulation while other winters are not as cold or have less snow accumulation.

Global warming advocates blame me for global warming. They say I eat too much meat and should become a vegan. Other people say they are blamed for global warming as well. They were also told to stop eating meat and become vegans. So I'm not buying that excuse.

Politics so often blurs reality to the point where what truth there is about the subject is completely lost to overly charged rhetoric. But something has caught my attention and I find this disturbing.

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Russia has been very busy in the arctic region, trying to claim as much of the northern arctic for themselves. They are not only drilling for oil, but now have military bases among many other projects going on in the arctic. Here are a few videos on the subject.

There are other videos on this subject as well.

Russia is literally terraforming the arctic!

But nobody ever mentions this in the media! Nobody! I am being blamed for all this terraforming in the arctic because I eat meat and own a car. Yet eating meat has never been a problem with ancient peoples. Why weren't the ancient peoples blamed for all the meat they ate? Cars are not the problem either. The problem is Russia! Other countries do have projects in the arctic, but Russia is literally terraforming the arctic!

I find this very disturbing on so many levels. For one, Russia, a nation who doesn't care about the existence of whales, will probably wipe out all whales in the arctic. They do not care if whales become extinct as long as they profit from their extinction. Russia has this idea that the world is theirs and the arctic, being part of the world, is also theirs. When all these projects began, ice breakers were needed to navigate through the arctic waters. But ice breakers are no longer needed. Russian activity is warming up the arctic....terraforming it.

So the truth about global warming is never mentioned in the news. Its always my fault or your fault. Anything to gain control over our lives. But the truth is never spoken in the media.

I don't believe in the media's narrative about global warming. I know that is not true. But this thing about Russia's activity in the arctic is alarming. And now China wants a piece of the arctic.

So the question lingers: Is terraforming the arctic a good idea?

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Never heard meat eating had anything to do with global warming!
I have been around many years - I have seen the changes in the weather, which is becoming more fierce *more frequently.* I'm not a scientist - I don't know if it is natural or due to global warming but changes have occurred.
National Climate Assessment

Study Says Earthquakes Are Increasing in U.S. Oil Regions

March 2022 Tornadoes Report | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Historic winter storm raises questions about climate change and cold

Climate Change: Global Temperature | NOAA Climate.gov

More reports of drought, more reports of flooding, more reports of land / forest fires these reports are increasing around the world.

What I do is rely on the media to report what those who specialize in the study of the climate is saying and all are saying global warming is happening. The media is only reporting what the scientists say - "weather" fact or fiction.

Don’t look away: Dr. Peter Kalmus on the United Nations’ latest climate report - Source New Mexico

Stefan Rahmstorf: The Climate Crisis - What We Know About It And How We Can Stop Further Warming | Summer 2020 Events | News and Events | Center for German and European Studies | Brandeis University

https://thebestschools.org/magazine/top-climate-change-scientists/

Ragdoll said:

The media blames me all the time for eating meat and driving a car. They blame other Americans who also eat meat and drive cars. Their solution to saving the planet is to force us to stop eating meat and driving cars.

However, this isn't really the issue of the topic. More of a side issue. The issue is how Russia is set on claiming so much of the arctic as their own, while involved in many activities that are literally melting the North Pole into dry land. But that is probably their goal: melt all the ice caps and increase land and resources. Simple thoughts for simple minds, I guess. But all this may have more negative effects on our climate. But its not my fault and I wish the media would stop blaming me for global warming when they know its Russia doing it in the arctic. But they never report this. They just blame me and other Americans who voted Trump. I don't even live near the arctic. I don't have a job in the arctic. Eating meat and driving my car to work and back does not do anything bad to the planet. But Russia's attempt to terraform the arctic may not be wise. I just wish the media would get it right for once and stop blaming people like me for things being done by Russia.

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I've been hearing about Russia for at least 20 years now in the Antarctic _ they've been there for so long and nothing extraordinary happens, I guess it's not something that the media focuses on continually but there are reports from time to time.
Plus there are quite a few countries that have research stations there - 32.
Antarctic since 1904 - Australia 1954 - Chili 1947 - France 1950 - USA 1929 - Russia 1956
Countries With Antarctic Research Stations
Come from what reports say the Arctic is melting faster than the Antarctic.
Climate explained: why is the Arctic warming faster than other parts of the world? - International Science Council

If the ice is melting because of human traffic, then it would be a coalition of Nations.

I haven't heard that they were attempting to terraform it, and all I can find is can or will the Antarctic be terraformed - answered with no - not suitable for human life. But I have heard that they were drilling in some lake for scientific research concerning ancient life forms millions of years ago.

Discovery made in 2013
Potential New Antarctica Bacteria Actually Contamination

Not only Russia but other countries want to drill for oil and probably will.

Ragdoll said:

But its not my fault and I wish the media would stop blaming me for global warming when they know its Russia doing it in the arctic.

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How... many times does your name appear in the media?

This is strange. I eat meat, and drive a car and don't live in the arctic. But they aren't covering me at all and I don't feel blamed. Interesting articles on Russia in the arctic though; it certainly is to their advantage you have year round ports.

The arctic is a wild card and for the UFO alien / demonic beings there is a lot of strange things to consider. Admiral Byrd made two trips to the arctic and he said he flew into a entrance that showed a tropical paradise inside of the arctic where this race of beings were. The next time he went they had a detachment of navy war ships and came home with high casualties early in the mission and came back 6 months ahead of schedule. The head of the eastern orthodox church took some relic called the ark of Gabriel to the arctic and performed some rituals over there.

Brian Mcnamee said:

The head of the eastern orthodox church took some relic called the ark of Gabriel to the arctic and performed some rituals over there.

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No that was Antarctica. And there was a totally good explanation for that. We don't pop that thing off lightly. That was Kirill too, head of Russian Orthodox, not head of Eastern Orthodox. He might have had it on loan though or checked out.

There is no land in the Arctic, it is all ice. You cannot terraform ice.

Ragdoll said:

I don't believe in the media's narrative about global warming. I know that is not true. But this thing about Russia's activity in the arctic is alarming. And now China wants a piece of the arctic.

So the question lingers: Is terraforming the arctic a good idea?

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so they are gearing up for the oil-hungry world of 2030 and they welcome global warming wiping out the arctic if at all possible.

Meanwhile (until about a month ago) the west was doing everything it could to be as dependent as possible on Russian oil.

Putin is currently shooting himself in the foot - trying to get the west to look for non-oil solutions.

Ragdoll said:

The media blames me all the time for eating meat and driving a car. They blame other Americans who also eat meat and drive cars. Their solution to saving the planet is to force us to stop eating meat and driving cars.

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It is just statistics.

United States Consumption

“With less than 5 percent of world population, the U.S. uses one-third of the world’s paper, a quarter of the world’s oil, 23 percent of the coal, 27 percent of the aluminum, and 19 percent of the copper,” he reports. “Our per capita use of energy, metals, minerals, forest products, fish, grains, meat, and even fresh water dwarfs that of people living in the developing world.”

Just like the fact that meat protein is more expensive to produce on terms of water, energy, nutrients and usually land area than it is to produce alternative calorie choices. Also considerable ethical issues about animal welfare and animal rights exist.

Solution is not to force anything because that doesn't work so it isn't a solution. Rather the goal is to raise the level of environmental consciousness and do some of those little things like cutting a meat for one day of the week, using paper packages instead of plastics, taking out your bicycle for that 5 mile ride instead of your car, getting those recycle bins and using few minutes per day to sort you thrash out if that option is available to you.

Cutting your resource expenditure is not really a tragic loss for you even if it is often presented as such a blow to your "freedom".

How many of us are not using some stuff to excess that we would be totally fine without and actually giving it up would improve our quality of life ?

Ragdoll said:

The topic is about Russia's activities in the arctic circle. None of this is ever addressed in the media

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Russia's impact on global warming is minuscule next to that of China

Ragdoll said:

Well, China wants a piece of the arctic as well. China wants to rule the world.

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But no one wants to rattle China's cage because they have become dependant on cheap goods manufactured there, which just means that they've shifted their own carbon footprint over to China, kind of like using coal fired power stations to provide electricity for charging electric cars, only it's worse because in order to manufacture so cheaply, China doesn't follow any of the restrictions imposed on industry in countries trying to be more ecological.
On the other hand, the Western narrative over the last few decades has been to paint Russia as evil so the military industrial machine could be kept running and the wealthy could get even richer.