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mukk_in said:

Galatians 5:23 (NIV)
Against such things, there is no law.
America, like many nations, is a nation of laws. The laws and rights enshrined in the constitution protect the civil liberties of all her citizens while maintaining law and order. However, the rules can never change corrupt human nature. The tendency to steal, kill, fornicate, and such will not be altered.

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It is altered most by peer pressure among many other motivating forces.
Attitude, stress levels, availability of food, housing, work, dependants, etc.

mukk_in said:

Galatians 5:23 (NIV)

Against such things, there is no law.

America, like many nations, is a nation of laws. The laws and rights enshrined in the constitution protect the civil liberties of all her citizens while maintaining law and order. However, the rules can never change corrupt human nature. The tendency to steal, kill, fornicate, and such will not be altered. The law, with its punitive damages, can only instill fear but can't recreate humanity. Sometimes the laws are also perverse. In the name of equality, many nations have legalized sinful behavior akin to that of Sodom and Gomorrah and are incurring God's wrath. The bureaucracy, corruption, and inefficiencies of the system also delay many benefits and clearances that are instantly bestowed by the Lord as soon as we confess with our mouths and believe in our hearts.

Christ has set us free from the inane and impotent law and rendered us robust and holy. It would never occur to a saint to murder, steal, fornicate, cheat on taxes, and such as that is not the nature of the indwelling Holy Spirit. Consequently, a child of God is a model citizen that those still under the law can aspire to be like.

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Adultery is legal, but it is a sin that resulted in divorce, alimony and child support payments. Prostitution is illegal and not safe. Premarital sex is legal, but the court may order a paternity test and child support payments afterwards. Men have been arrested for nonpayment of child support. Homosexuality is legal, but some who had sex with gay and bisexual men got HIV.

mukk_in said:

The law, with its punitive damages, can only instill fear but can't recreate humanity

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To be the full-Gospel, born again child of God, we know what reservation that belongs to. Yet since true authority strikes "terror" on the true evildoer, I wouldn't say it has never entered into the process.

mukk_in said:

Christ has set us free from the inane and impotent law and rendered us robust and holy. It would never occur to a saint to murder, steal, fornicate, cheat on taxes, and such as that is not the nature of the indwelling Holy Spirit. Consequently, a child of God is a model citizen that those still under the law can aspire to be like.

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Right, right. No Gluttony, no ego, no greed, no adultery, no child molesting, no abortions, all gone!

Anger—Galatians 5:20; Ephesians 4:26, 31; 6:4; Colossians 3:8; James 1:19-20

Anger with one’s brother—Matthew 5:22

Arrogance—2 Timothy 3:2; 2 Corinthians 12:20; 2 Timothy 3:2; 1 Corinthians 5:2; 8:1; 13:4

Bitterness—Ephesians 4:31; Hebrews 12:15; Romans 2:24; 3:14; Acts 8:23; James 2:7

Boasting—Romans 1:30; 2 Timothy 3:2; Galatians 5:26

Carousing—Romans 13:13; Galatians 5:21; 1 Peter 4:3

Clamor—Ephesians 4:31

Complaining—Ephesians 4:31; Colossians 3:13; 1 Peter 4:9; James 5:9

Conceit—2 Timothy 3:4

Coveting—Mark 7:22; Ephesians 5:5; Acts 20:33; Romans 13:9

Cowardice—Revelation 21:8

Denying Christ—Matthew 10:33; Luke 12:9; 1 John 2:22-23

Desiring praise of men—John 12:43

Disobedience to parents—Romans 1:30; 2 Timothy 3:2; Titus 3:3

Divisions—1 Corinthians 1:10

Divorce—Matthew 5:32; 19:9; Mark 10:11-12; Luke 16:18

Eating the Bread or drinking the Cup unworthily—1 Corinthians 11:27

Envy—Mark 7:22; Galatians 5:26; Titus 3:3

Evil thoughts—Mark 7:21; Matthew 15:19

Fathers, provoking children to wrath—Colossians 3:21

Fearfulness—Matthew 10:26, 28

Foolishness—Mark 7:22; Titus 3:3

Foolish talking—Ephesians 5:4

Fornication (or sexual immorality)—Mark 7:21; Matthew 15:19; 1 Corinthians 6:9; Galatians 5:19

Greed—Ephesians 4:19; 5:3; 2 Peter 2:14

Lust, lusting—1 Peter 4:3; Titus 3:3

Hypocrisy—Matthew 23:13,23, 25; 23, 27,28, 29; Mark 12:15; Luke 12:1; Romans 12:9

Impurity—Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5: 3, 5

Jealousy—Galatians 5:20; 1 Corinthians 3:3; 2 Corinthians 12:20; James 3:16

Jesting—Ephesians 5:4

Judging—Matthew 7:1-5; Romans 2:1; 14:13; Luke 6:37 James 4:11

Knowing to do good but not doing it—James 4:17

Laying up treasures on earth—Matthew 6:19-21; 19:21; 1 Timothy 6:9-10; Luke 12:21, 33; 18:22


Loving another person more than Jesus—Matthew 10:37; Luke 14:26

Lusting after a woman—Matthew 5:27-28; 1 Peter 4:3; Matthew 18:9

Lying—Revelation 21:8, 27; 22:15; Ephesians 4:25; Romans 9:1; 2 Corinthians 11:31; Galatians 1:20; 2 Timothy 2:7

Malice—Romans 1:29; Ephesians 4:31; Colossians 3:8; Titus 3:3; 2 Peter 2:1

Man praying or prophesying with head covered—1 Corinthians 11:4-16

Pride—Mark 7:22; 1 Peter 5:5, 6; James 4:6; Matthew 23:12; Luke 14:11; 18;14

Quarrels—James 4:1-2; 1 Corinthians 1:11; 2 Timothy 2:23

Reviling—1 Corinthians 6:10; 5:11; 2 Timothy 3:2; 1 Peter 2:23; 1 Corinthians 4:17

Sensuality—Galatians 5:19; Mark 7:22; Romans 13:13; 2 Corinthians 12:21; 1 Peter 4:3; Ephesians 4:19; 2 Peter 2:2

Slander—Matthew 15:19; Mark 7:22; Ephesians 4:31; Colossians 3:8; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 Corinthians 4:13; Romans 1:30

Sorcery—Galatians 5:20; Revelation 21:8, 15; 9:21; 18:23

Speaking against the Holy Spirit—Matthew 12:32; Luke 12:10

Stealing—Ephesians 4:28; 13:9; Matthew 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 2:21; 13:9

Strife, quarreling—Galatians 5:20; Romans 1:29; 13:13; 1 Corinthians 3:3; 2 Corinthians 12:20; 1 Timothy 6:4

Swearing an oath—Matthew 6:34-37; James 5:12

Swindling—1 Corinthians 5:10; 6:10

Thievery, theft—1 Corinthians 6:10; Mark 7:21; John 10:1, 8; 1 Peter 4:15; Matthew 15:19

Treachery—2 Timothy 3:4

Unbelief, lack of faith—James 1:6; Mark 9:24; Hebrews 3:12, 19; 1 Timothy 5:8; 2 Corinthians 6:14-15; 7:13; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Titus 1:15; Revelation 21:8

Unforgiveness—Matthew 6:14-15; Mark 11:25-26

Ungodliness—Romans 1:18; 4:5; 5:6; 1 Timothy 1:9; 2 Timothy 2:16; Titus 2:12; 2 Peter 2:5, 6, 7

Ungratefulness—2 Tmothy 3:2; Romans 1:21; Luke 6:35; 2 Timothy 3:2

Unholiness—2 Timothy 3:2; Hebrews 12:14

Unrighteousness—Romans 1:18, 29; 2:8; 6:13; 1 John 1:9; 5:17

Wickedness—Mark 7:22; Luke 11:39; Acts 8:22; Romans 1:29; 1 Corinthians 5:8; Ephesians 6:12; 2 Thessalonians 2:10, 12; 2 Timothy 2:19

Woman cutting her hair short—1 Corinthians 1:14-15

Woman with her Head uncovered—1 Corinthians 11:5-16

Woman speaking or teaching in public—1 Timothy 2:11-15; 1 Corinthians 11:33-37

Wrath—Ephesians 4:31; Colossians 3:8; 1 Timothy 2:8

SkyWriting said:

Right, right. No Gluttony, no ego, no greed, no adultery, no child molesting, no abortions, all gone!

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"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are:
of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past,
that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:19-21 NKJV

Sabertooth said:

"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are:

adultery,
fornication,
uncleanness,
lewdness,
idolatry,
sorcery,
hatred,
contentions,
jealousies,
outbursts of wrath,
selfish ambitions,
dissensions,
heresies,
envy,
murders,
drunkenness,
revelries, and the like;​

of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past,
that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:19-21 NKJV

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And Paul explains that while not wanting to practice them, he still does them.

Sabertooth said:

"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are:

adultery,
fornication,
uncleanness,
lewdness,
idolatry,
sorcery,
hatred,
contentions,
jealousies,
outbursts of wrath,
selfish ambitions,
dissensions,
heresies,
envy,
murders,
drunkenness,
revelries, and the like;​

of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past,
that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:19-21 NKJV

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And we know for a fact that people who are saved have been on that list.
So that passage one isn't covering the whole story.

mukk_in said:

Galatians 5:23 (NIV)

Against such things, there is no law.

America, like many nations, is a nation of laws. The laws and rights enshrined in the constitution protect the civil liberties of all her citizens while maintaining law and order. However, the rules can never change corrupt human nature. The tendency to steal, kill, fornicate, and such will not be altered. The law, with its punitive damages, can only instill fear but can't recreate humanity. Sometimes the laws are also perverse. In the name of equality, many nations have legalized sinful behavior akin to that of Sodom and Gomorrah and are incurring God's wrath. The bureaucracy, corruption, and inefficiencies of the system also delay many benefits and clearances that are instantly bestowed by the Lord as soon as we confess with our mouths and believe in our hearts.

Christ has set us free from the inane and impotent law and rendered us robust and holy. It would never occur to a saint to murder, steal, fornicate, cheat on taxes, and such as that is not the nature of the indwelling Holy Spirit. Consequently, a child of God is a model citizen that those still under the law can aspire to be like.

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I also agree, a person who is committed and indulged into church is prone to develop better morals. Praying helps me to calm my mind and remove the unnecessary things from my mind and lets me to focus on Writing my paper for semesters.

Sabertooth said:

"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are:

adultery,
fornication,
uncleanness,
lewdness,
idolatry,
sorcery,
hatred,
contentions,
jealousies,
outbursts of wrath,
selfish ambitions,
dissensions,
heresies,
envy,
murders,
drunkenness,
revelries, and the like;​

of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past,
that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:19-21 NKJV

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Have you yet met any such people pure enough to pass?
I know my grandma got angry now and then.

SkyWriting said:

Have you yet met any such people pure enough to pass?

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After they repented? Yes.

Sabertooth said:

After they repented? Yes.

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That's amazing, since there are none, no not one.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

1 John 1:8-10
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Proverbs 28:13
Whoever conceals his transgressions will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will.......obtain mercy.

Not perfection. Not even improvement, according to research. Research shows that of any ill or sin you can measure, believers measure the same as non-believers. Adultery, abortions, divorce, drug use, prostitution all measure the same as the general population. So since believers practice sin the same amounts as non-believers, then.....

Glad I could help!

SkyWriting said:

That's amazing, since there are none, no not one.

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That is B.C.
And yes, it is amazing.

"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just

• to forgive us our sins and
• to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9 NKJV