Update about the horrible prison conditions treatment of Pastor Artur Pawlowski! -Dawid P

I recently saw a video on Rebel News a few days ago of the police just randomly arresting him just before he was going to be giving a speech at the trucker convoy.

Pavel Mosko said:

they have their people staking at the place in wait like he is a drug smuggler or other criminals waiting to nab him a minute or two after leaving those meetings.

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So, possibly humans today can be like the ones who constantly were staking out Jesus and then crucified Him.

Mothers and fathers said, "His blood be on us and our children" > in Matthew 27:25.

Yes, it was the authorities who made the ongoing effort to kill Jesus. But when mothers and fathers had the opportunity to join in, it looks like they did.

And Jesus says to expect this, I think . . . not to be surprised. And pray for evil people.

But be wise to how now . . . in my opinion, I guess I have to say . . . now there is a self-righteous culture that plays the victim when they are opposed. They do not rejoice because they are counted worthy to suffer for Jesus . . . like Jesus says to do. But ones can be very interested in making themselves look good . . . in comparison with Satanic people . . . not in comparison with Jesus. Cultic people spend more time pointing out how they compare with enemies, than how they compare with Christ.

So, in the case of this pastor, I do not know what he preaches about living like Jesus, and if and how he handles prayer concerning enemies. It seems nothing I have read or heard, so far, gives plain and clear stuff about this.

Social conscience people can be anti-Christ. One activist did a lot of legal reformation, but then committed suicide . . . they say. But I can see how ones with type-A personalities can be aggressive and ambitious and attention-seeking in how they handle their causes, not really gentle and humble examples of Jesus and how He related very personally with people He helped.

Type A can blow a trumpet and make a lot of noise. Type C can even try to avoid attention, but get it anyway like Jesus did . . . at least at times.

So, if he is a pastor, what has he been preaching about Jesus and how to become like Jesus and love any and all people like Jesus wants? And is he a leader who takes the lead in how our Apostle Paul says we all are to relate as God's family? >

"with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love," (Ephesians 4:2)

He could have invited them in so they could hear God's message about Jesus and salvation. God has us use things for His good, right? Look how Joseph used his prison situation, after being falsely accused of attempted rape > Genesis 37-50. So, what does this pastor preach and exemplify about how to make God's use of being attacked by enemies? I have not seen or heard anything about this. Our Apostle Paul would turn prison into an evangelistic center

Pavel Mosko said:

Well he apparently is in solitary confinement so kind of hard to do that. And he is on his 3rd day of fasting as well, according to his brother.

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And you have posted a Youtube video of Artur preaching. In blue, below, are representations of things I have heard him say in this video > my comments are in black During this thing, I am listening for what he a pastor says about how to become like Jesus and love the way Jesus has taught and exemplified >

He starts off with talking about a police officer who said things and was suspended.

He gets people laughing, often during his speaking.

Quoting James 4:17, he says if you know God is telling you to help someone and you don't, this is sin.

And he says doctors sin by not telling people the truth about drugs and their side effects.

And sin brings death and hell. You can gain the whole world but lose your soul . . . gain nothing. He says this, of course, referring to what Jesus has said > Matthew 16:26, Mark 8:36.

He says he has been preaching about CBC "devils" "for so long".

He says the CDC and others are changing their standards and shifting to different goals.

He says the authorities were guaranteeing that the shots would be the panacea for ending the pandemic.

And he says the booster shots have been a shift of goalposts.

He seems to be saying that ones have claimed to be doing something scientific, but then they have moved away from what they committed themselves to.

@15:29 > "All my life I met bullies > on the streets, in the school, growing up . . . there were always bullies. And I know only one way how to deal with a bully . . . a punch in the nose."

He says he has been preaching about CBC people "for so long". I have heard him use a few references to what Jesus and God's word say . . . but how much of his preaching time has he devoted to Jesus and God's word, versus talking about evil people?

If someone spends a lot of time talking about what evil people are doing . . . this can have us feeding on knowledge of good and evil that is going on in this world, instead of our attention first being to God and how to submit to Him in His peace, and feeding on how He is succeeding . . . now.

With God, we now already have all the best which He has for us now.

"But those who seek the LORD shall not lack any good thing." (in Psalm 34:10)

So, does he ever talk about this, as a preacher??

Of course, it is clear that it is claimed that he has done things to help needy people. But how has he been going about this? There are plenty of secular humanitarian people, but they might use what they do in order to promote some agenda, including to make it seem like they can be so good but without Jesus.

"And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profits me nothing." (1 Corinthians 13:3)

So, is he making a prayerfully careful point of preaching and teaching how to do things in love, in order to help needy people? Gestures alone are not enough; plus, they can have a political agenda. Communists have used criticism of government neglect of the poor, in order to recruit opposition to a government. Plus, clever talking can get laughing so people associate a message with pleasure, and thereby they are not evaluating what they are being told.

There is more than one way to use psychology in order to control people.

Love and pleasure can be confused, I think some number of us have discovered about our romantic franticness . . . or, at least, some time later we have realized this

How thoroughly has he been teaching about loving like Jesus on the cross? >

"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

About Artur's video in Post #5 above - I said:

He says the authorities were guaranteeing that the shots would be the panacea for ending the pandemic.

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I have some background in medicine and science. I understood the authorities said the vaccines would help, but we need to use other methods to complement vaccination. Plus, these methods would not work so well if there was poor cooperation.

So, I would say it can be very clever trickery to interfere with COVID measures, on purpose, and then blame the authorities when at least part of the failure of the measures is because of the interference and noncooperation. Of course, the vaccines and other things can fail - - if certain people are taking action, even, to interfere with them succeeding or at least helping.

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He seems to be saying that ones have claimed to be doing something scientific, but then they have moved away from what they committed themselves to.

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All along, I have understood how scientific research can start with not knowing what you are dealing with. Then, as you make discoveries, yes you do change your standards and goals.

But, like I offer, the scientists and authorities perhaps were not expecting to have people actually taking action to make sure the restrictions and vaccines would not succeed. And now, of all things, ones are blaming the scientists!

As soon as the COVID thing started and it was evident that human cooperation would be needed in order to end it . . . I knew that even right measures would not be enough. And ones of this world are not going to do things right > Jesus does say, "without Me you can do nothing." (in John 15:5)

So, I would not spend much time with expecting worldly people to get things right and to stop fighting with each other.

"But those who seek the LORD shall not lack any good thing." (in Psalm 34:10)

Pavel Mosko said:

I don't think many Christians really get what "being Christlike" truly is.

They just see it as being this super soft hearted mushy thing. If they for instance saw "The Two Witnesses" doing their thing in the book of Revelation, or so a new appearance of Jesus under disguise doing a modern version of overturning the money changer tables and driving them out with a whip they would most likely claim these things as being "UnChristlike" and would quote scripture at them.


The same goes for many other scenes from the Old and New Testament. The ancient Manicheans, Marcionites and various Gnostics cults preached their were two gods one for the Old Covenant and one for the New one because they had trouble reconciling the two testaments and the fact that the NT God seems more like a God of Grace and Mercy. Many Evangelicals got the same kind of Marcionite/ Manichean/ Gnostic problem...


But the same God inspired both Covenants and He is the same yesterday, today and forever, and He is coming back with a sword in his mouth to judge the Living and the Dead.

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Yes, Jesus used that whip. Thank you for taking the time, Pasko

But Jesus was fighting for the house of prayer being used for prayer. And He says if this world was His kingdom, then His people would fight. So, using a church for politics might be something not praying.

How much time has he been using his church for prayer, versus politics? I don't know, but I took the time to go through part of that video you put up, and he has not seemed to be working primarily with prayer and patience >

"imitate those who through faith and patience inherit the promises," we have in Hebrews 6:12.

I do not think that this "faith and patience" is "super soft hearted" and "mushy". And I do not mean that you are saying this. But how well have you gotten to know any Evangelical who you think is soft? After all, it is possible that when Jesus said His servants would not fight because His kingdom is not from here, I suppose certain ones would say He was being soft.

When Jesus used that whip, things worked quickly, He is efficient; but ones of this world can drag things on and on, not getting things done, plus fighting with each other and trying to control each other.

But right now, if we submit to God, then right now we enjoy all that God really desires to share with each of us, "and your joy no one will take from you," Jesus says in John 16:22. This joy is almighty, then, I would say, able to continue in spite of what this evil world does. And God's peace in us likewise is not soft, but with almighty power so this peace in God's way of praying "will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus," our Apostle Paul says in Philippians 4:6-7.

And there are Evangelicals who know this and experience this. So, I would say get to know each one, and do not make a general statement based on ones who are not true Evangelicals. Many will be fooled, Jesus says, right? So, don't go by the numbers

God's peace has almighty immunity against nasty anger and worry and stress and unforgiveness and all other anti-love stuff which would violate our hearts and minds and degrade us so we keep on suffering in torment. So, this peace is not soft!

And so, if you are going to fight, we need to be strong in this peace, so enemies can not have power over us and power to control our attention. But with God guiding us in His peace, we have almighty power to keep us, plus we share with God in His creativity for how to overcome any evil . . . "with good." (in Romans 12:21)

I find, then, that the place to start in winning against evil, is in prayer. In prayer we get with God so He is guiding us and has us ready for love, so we are His example who can help any enemy to find out how to love.

But if we just fight wrong people, all we might do is control them somehow.

Hi @Pavel Mosko

I'm sure your sympathies are with this man. I don't know him from Adam's off ox, but in listening to some of his complaints about mistreatment, he really seems to be quite the whiner. I had a step-son in prison for 25 years and he was always strip searched after visitations. All the one's incarcerated were, every time they had a visitor meeting in the food court of the prison. It's just standard practice to ensure that no one was given any kind of weapon, money or drugs while participating in a visit. So my step-son has your pastor beat probably by about 1,000 strip searches. BTW, what they are always looking for is, finger quotations 'contraband'. What a whiner!

Especially in the visitor's area of the prison, having to go to the bathroom while a guard is present is very often the case. Again, it's all to prevent prisoners from trying to receive or pass contraband items. I would like to see this supposed 'dog kennel' like cage that has no air circulation. What a whiner!

No, Jesus wouldn't have been anything like your friend Mr. Pawlowski. He was beaten mercilessly and never cried out or complained that he was somehow being treated unfairly. Neither, by the way, did Paul in all of his confinements.

Pavel Mosko said:

I don't think many Christians really get what "being Christlike" truly is.

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I would agree with that statement, but I would imagine that our lists of those who didn't get it would likely be quite different. Certainly someone crying over the activities and subsequent treatment of a political malcontent parading as a preacher, would be on my list.

God bless,
Ted

Pavel Mosko said:

This is the pastor who gained fame around the world for kicking out the police and health inspectors from his Good Friday Church service last year in Calgary.

I posted a video Blog of him a few months back because I have seen a lot of Christian criticism of him, because he comes across as rude "and unChrist like" in many people's interpretation of things (how they see him, the Bible). But I don't think people really get him, most notably that he has been fighting the Canadian government for maybe 15 years because of his street evangelism and ministry to the poor (feeding them and giving them other necessities like clothes, toiletries etc.) a bit like a modern version of the Salvation Army.

He was initially welcomed in this ministry, until it made the city and province government looked bad and then they began to crack down on him enforcing their local city and Province laws which are connotationally dubious (he was always able to get charges dropped due to a judge realizing they did violate the Canadian Constitution). Unfortunately, the Canadians are not following the wisdom of Abraham Lincoln when it comes to bad laws. (He is said to urge the strict enforcement of bad laws to make sure they are repealed). I would encourage people who are interested in his story to watch the second link part 2 of his story. His actual Christian testimony that preceded it also is well worth watching.

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You wouldn't expect that in Canada..

Pavel Mosko said:

Been thinking about it, it' isn't that far fetched what could happen here and is actually happen to lots of people who came to Washington on Jan 6, most of those people didn't do anything wrong especially when it comes to Antifa and BLM other than be at the wrong protest when the authorities are looking to throw the book at anyone in the vicinity.

People forget that Obama threw out Habbeus Corpus which we got with the Magna Counter in the High Middle Ages (That you cannot be imprisoned without a trial), but that power from Homeland Security got expanded and never repealed.

President Obama Signs Indefinite Detention Bill Into Law

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And I do know even here in some cities they've criminalized feeding the homeless, which to me is so sad. They did it in the city I lived in and spent some time on the street myself, thankfully after I was no longer homeless.

People don't realize the impact that private individuals make when they pass out sandwiches... Homeless people have to eat more than once a day same as everyone else and most charities only offer one meal, and all the charities have that meal at about the same time and there's no opportunity for "seconds"... So when people pass out sandwiches and chips at night or on the weekends it's nice, and those who do are usually not a state funded charity - they're just people.

Pavel Mosko said:

This is the pastor who gained fame around the world for kicking out the police and health inspectors from his Good Friday Church service last year in Calgary.

I posted a video Blog of him a few months back because I have seen a lot of Christian criticism of him, because he comes across as rude "and unChrist like" in many people's interpretation of things (how they see him, the Bible). But I don't think people really get him, most notably that he has been fighting the Canadian government for maybe 15 years because of his street evangelism and ministry to the poor (feeding them and giving them other necessities like clothes, toiletries etc.) a bit like a modern version of the Salvation Army.

He was initially welcomed in this ministry, until it made the city and province government looked bad and then they began to crack down on him enforcing their local city and Province laws which are connotationally dubious (he was always able to get charges dropped due to a judge realizing they did violate the Canadian Constitution). Unfortunately, the Canadians are not following the wisdom of Abraham Lincoln when it comes to bad laws. (He is said to urge the strict enforcement of bad laws to make sure they are repealed). I would encourage people who are interested in his story to watch the second link part 2 of his story. His actual Christian testimony that preceded it also is well worth watching.

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As Jesus demonstrated at his trial, local laws are God's will.

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He says he has been preaching about CBC "devils" "for so long".

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So, already before this recording, it would seem evident that he has preached to this group about the evils of the system.

But during the first 15 minutes of this video, I did not hear him say much about theosis. Isn't he supposed to be Eastern Orthodox and a pastor?? I got the impression that if I listened to the rest of this message, I still would not have heard what he has to say about theosis.

So - - @Pavel Mosko > do you have any video or quotes of what he says about becoming like Jesus . . . besides his social cause thing about helping needy people, and using a whip to drive people out of the temple?

Cultic people can use a social cause and threatening us with the system or some other enemy . . . in order to keep evaluation away from their own selves and in order to give them credibility . . . in comparison with what is inferior, not in real comparison with Jesus. And none of this amounts to anything, without real theosis, right?