Question on the Holy Spirit and Biblical Interpretation

Randy777 said:

Regardless the Spirit conveys to us only what He hears. Elsewhere it is written the Spirit of God searches the deep thoughts of God.
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

Jesus is the head of the body of Christ so I think these are His words as in the Spirit spoke what He heard from the will of the mind of Christ Jesus.
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them

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It is through the Holy Spirit that the dwelling of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, God the Father, dwells in the regenerated believer.
John 14:23
"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

Maria Billingsley said:

It is through the Holy Spirit that the dwelling of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, God the Father, dwells in the regenerated believer.
John 14:23
"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

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Did you mean to write Jesus Christ of Nazareth AND God the Father? That's the "we" Jesus spoke of rather than Jesus Christ of Nazareth, God the Father?

I have the Spirit of God in me which Jesus received from the Father and sent in His name and would represent the mind and presence of Christ Jesus in the believer. Hence Spirit of Christ. The eastern church still holds that the Spirit proceeds from the Father which I agree with but would add is only given through the Son and is sent in Jesus's name. Acts 2 -the Spirit Jesus poured out He received from the Father.

Fathers promise - In the last days I will pour out "My" Spirit...
Jesus-And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—The Spirit of truth.

The Spirit in me remains silent unless Jesus wills otherwise. (Speaks what He hears)

So that's a use of, and understanding of, "spirit" that does not accord with the Biblical teaching about the nature of the Holy Ghost.

Randy777 said:

And what is your interpretation of the Lords parable of the weeds and wheat growing up together until the harvest as spoken of in Matt 13 that is the parable of the weeds?

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it's not about ME, that is the whole point!!! ugh

Maria Billingsley said:

I'm not sure why you are trying to pick a fight with me. It is not my authority. It is the authority of Jesus Christ of Nazareth through His Holy Spirit. This is His promise.

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not picking a fight, highlighting the errors that are inevitable with SS

BobRyan said:

Doesn't your response "delete" the work of the Holy Spirit from someone's life when you say "your own authority"??

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no, it highlights that some claim to be led by the Spirit based on THEIR authority alone.

BobRyan said:

Always a possibility for everyone.

And plenty of examples of "differences" even for NT saints

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no saint is an infallible teacher so yes, your statement is true

Randy777 said:

Did you mean to write Jesus Christ of Nazareth AND God the Father? That's the "we" Jesus spoke of rather than Jesus Christ of Nazareth, God the Father?

I have the Spirit of God in me which Jesus received from the Father and sent in His name and would represent the mind and presence of Christ Jesus in the believer. Hence Spirit of Christ. The eastern church still holds that the Spirit proceeds from the Father which I agree with but would add is only given through the Son and is sent in Jesus's name. Acts 2 -the Spirit Jesus poured out He received from the Father.

Fathers promise - In the last days I will pour out "My" Spirit...
Jesus-And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—The Spirit of truth.

The Spirit in me remains silent unless Jesus wills otherwise. (Speaks what He hears)

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All are one in the same. Jesus Christ of Nazareth is God in the flesh and His Spirit dwells in the beliver. I'm not sure why this is questioned . Isaiah made it quite clear.

concretecamper said:

not picking a fight, highlighting the errors that are inevitable with SS

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What is SS?

Maria Billingsley said:

What is SS?

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It is trusting the Word of God - Sola Scriptura testing of all doctrine and tradition as Christ did in Mark 7:6-13.

concretecamper said:

no, it highlights that some claim to be led by the Spirit .

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As did Paul and as Peter says of all OT writers who had no Catholic church confirming them

BobRyan said:

As did Paul and as Peter says of all OT writers who had no Catholic church confirming them

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thankfully the Catholic Church confirmed what you read from Paul and Peter. AND the Catholic Church confirmed the entire OT. You're welcome.

concretecamper said:

no saint is an infallible teacher so yes, your statement is true

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1 Thess 2 Paul says this of his own teaching.

13 For this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of mere men, but as what it really is, the word of God, which also is at work in you who believe

Acts 17:11 "They studied the scriptures daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the apostle Paul - WERE SO"

concretecamper said:

thankfully the Catholic Church confirmed what you read from Paul and Peter.

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Not for any NT reader - who simply had to read the letter itself - no one in Rome was "Blessing it" for them.

Not for any OT reader -- no one Rome was blessing it for them either.

I myself do not check with Rome first either.

BobRyan said:

Acts 17:11 "They studied the scriptures daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the apostle Paul - WERE SO"

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not the Bible.

BobRyan said:

Not for any NT reader - who simply had to read the letter itself - no one in Rome was "Blessing it" for them.

Not for any OT reader -- no one Rome was blessing it for them either.

I myself do not check with Rome first either.

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and NO ONE interpreted the current scripture based on their own novel ideas.

BobRyan said:

I myself do not check with Rome first either.

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of course, we are all led by the Spirit, the Spirit who leads some to believe Baptism is needed for salvation and leads others to believe it is not. Give me a break.

Albion said:

So that's a use of, and understanding of, "spirit" that does not accord with the Biblical teaching about the nature of the Holy Ghost.

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how dare you question someone else's understanding! After all, they are absolutely led by the Spirit!!!!

Maria Billingsley said:

All are one in the same. Jesus Christ of Nazareth is God in the flesh and His Spirit dwells in the beliver. I'm not sure why this is questioned . Isaiah made it quite clear.

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Because Jesus is not the Father.

Albion said:

He is another person of the Trinity, not the soul or spirit or force of one of the other persons of the Trinity.


You're welcome...and thank you.

Here are verses that should be helpful:

John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 16:7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.

John 15:26 But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.

John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,

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The Spirit of God has been shown in the Scriptures as the Spirit of a person that is the Father.
Matt 10:20
for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
Fathers promise
In the last days I will pour out MY Spirit
Acts 1:4
“Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.

Jesus was clear that it was the Father who sent Him.

Baptized by the Spirit of the one who sends Jesus
The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,

Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.

Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

Not to add more confusion but
Jesus on the cross - "Father into your hands I commit MY Spirit"

From what I read Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit as another the Father does not. In fact the Holy Spirit is the Spirit the Father claims as His own.

Jesus said the Spirit does not speak on His own but only what He hears.
Hebrews states the Spirit intercedes according to the will of the Spirit
Paul states just a mans Spirit knows his thoughts the Spirit of God knows the thoughts of God.

So it is biblical to view the Spirit as the Spirit of the Father. (God)