-Ha-ha!! What a farcical thing to say. Thanks for the laugh!!
-We will see about that a little later.
Wow! you may want to go back and re-read what I said my friend. Because if you did, and not to read it through perturbed glasses. In doing so, you will see that it was asked in a hypothetical scenario. Sheesh!!
-Of course not, I'll leave that fantasy up to others.
Okay! You have a chance to back up your words with action right here on this forum, Pastor. Poster bbbbbbb started another thread to counter this thread titled..."A Question for Catholics." Followed by a poll titled, "What is the pillar and ground of truth." Also followed by his OP saying, "Our mutual friend, Fidelibus, has posted a similar question to Protestants. I would like to head how Catholics in particular respond to this question."
-Would you be willing to ask him the same things you ase asking me here? Like, "hey bbbbbbb, let me ask, why direct your title and this thread towards Catholics? In doing that, from the beginning you were drawing the lines of separation and setting the tone. Why was that necessary?" I am really curious to see if you have the sand to do it.
-Wait, am I reading this correctly..."As I was preparing to preach my message at my church." So you are a Pastor at "your" church? You did say "my church" did you not? When did you start this church? Which of the thousands of Protestant/non-denominational sects is "your" church? What is the name of this church of yours?
-I'm afraid not. What Jesus saw was me asking Protestant, and non-denominational Sola Scriptura believers (the bible alone, which is non-biblical, and a recent man-made belief) like yourself, if you believed what the bible say's is the pillar and foundation of truth. In other words, does it say the bible (the bible alone?) or does it say the church? Which I understand is very hard for bible alone believers to grasp.
-Okay.... so?
-In matter of faith and morals? your darn tootin I'm fallible! However, as a fallen away Catholic, and if you were properly catechized, you would know that Catholics do not believe your theological system, where there exists no person or no institution that can infallibly decide what is true and what is false when it comes to matters of faith and/or morals.
-Really, it is insulting holding you to your very own theological standard? Wow! Now correct me if I am wrong, but what I personally think what you and other non-Catholic posters find insulting, is a person like myself, and a Catholic no less is abiding by your very own theological standard and rules, and that makes you very uncomfortable.
-Good to hear, but like I said before, action speak louder than words. However, I did not happen to see you come to our Catholic defense on posts # 40, 51, and 52 of this thread. It's still not to late. And your actions on bbbbbbb's thread, "A Question for Catholics" is yet to be seen.
-(p.s. topher, if and when you ever would like to come home to the Catholic Church, you will be forever welcomed.)
-I would expect no less.
There is that "my church" phrase again. I am looking forward for your explanation.
-I know, it's a very uncomfortable passage for Sola Scripturist. Just out of curiosity, as a pastor, do you preach on this passage often in your church? or Luke 1:48, same question.
-Hummm. you are welcome to your opinion, but all I did was ask bible only believing Christians, from their very own theological standard perspective, what the bible says is "what is the pillar and ground of truth." Is it the bible? yes or no. I don't see where that is tearing down someone's belief system and propping up my own. Sorry, not trick "gotcha" question.
-Oh, now I see it is "my mistake" I am interpretating this passage wrong! In other words, mine and the Catholic Church's interpretation of this passage is wrong, but your interpretation.... is right! Very interesting! Let's think about this for a moment. By your very own words, you obviously believe your interpretations of Scripture, are indeed more authoritative than mine, and definitely more authoritative than the Catholic Church's...or of any church for that matter? Does that sound about right?
-Correct me if I am wrong here Pastor, but I always thought under Protestant theology, yours, or anybody else's interpretation of Scripture is no more authoritative than any person or institution. However, once again, by your very own words, it seems you don't actually believe that, now do you. So, my next question to you Pastor is, by who's and what authority gives you the authority to make those claims? Do you say the same thing to the members of "your" church? That their interpretations of Scripture are wrong, and that you hold authority over them to show and preach the correct interpretation of Scripture? We Catholics have a saying for people like this. "Fallible in theory, infallible in practice!"
-So, Pastor, since this is a thread for asking Protestant and Sola Scripturist questions, and a chance for you redeem yourself, if you wish, would you take a shot at these questions?
1.Since I pray to the Holy Spirit before reading Scripture, does your interpretation of Scripture, have more authority than my interpretation of Scripture? Yes, or no? (Again, not a trick question)
2. If the infallible Holy Spirit is guiding individual Christians in their interpretation of Scripture, then why does your theological belief standard claim that there are no Christians who can infallibly interpret Scripture? Wouldn't someone who is guided by the Holy Spirit in their interpretation of Scripture be infallible in their interpretation of Scripture?
3. Are there Christians who are being guided by the Holy Spirit in their interpretations of Scripture, who have belief systems that are not exactly the same?
Thank You in advance and Have a Blessed Day!
