The sin of Pride.

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I am interested in a discussion on Pride.

We know from scripture that this sin is at the root of many ungodly actions.

It is a sin to be taken seriously there seems to be no place for pride in the heart of a believer.

Unlike Anger there is no such thing as righteous pride.

Having been delivered from darkness I am very cautious about allowing any prideful thoughts or feelings to take hold.

Yet I am noticing that pride is often accepted as 'normal'

Being proud of ones achievements, proud of ones wife and family, proud of ones country, would suggest that there is a righteous pride, but I see no scriptural support for this.

I guess I see all that is good coming from God's hand so there is no room to boast.

Have I taken a view that is too radical or have I missed something.
 
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I have been thinking about this too. The only thing I can think of is what do I actually have to be prideful about, nothing I can do is above average the only things I could be prideful or boast about is the Lord in a way. I have God and that is something to be prideful about I guess.

But with my pride comes being puffed up and proud and that makes me want to police the world and not be a pushover to atheists and other religions. How much is too much?

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2 Corinthians (BSB)
15Neither do we boast beyond our limits in the labors of others. But we hope that as your faith increases, our area of influence among you will greatly increase as well, 16so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. Then we will not be boasting in the work already done in another man’s territory. 17Rather, “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.”a 18For it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends.
 
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Seek to become nothing, i.e. die to self. Whatever we are is not our own. Having pride is as simple as telling God what I want. All we need to pray for is God's will and God's will alone; if we can do that without fear, we are well in our way. "Lord, may thy will always be done." Jesus did it, under the most extreme of circumstances. If he did it, we have no excuse in our comfortable world constructed by self-will. ;)
 
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I am interested in a discussion on Pride.
We know from scripture that this sin is at the root of many ungodly actions.
It is a sin to be taken seriously there seems to be no place for pride in the heart of a believer.
Unlike Anger there is no such thing as righteous pride.Having been delivered from darkness I am very cautious about allowing any prideful thoughts or feelings to take hold.Yet I am noticing that pride is often accepted as 'normal'. Being proud of ones achievements, proud of ones wife and family, proud of ones country, would suggest that there is a righteous pride, but I see no scriptural support for this. I guess I see all that is good coming from God's hand so there is no room to boast. Have I taken a view that is too radical or have I missed something.

Here is a great exercise to see if you have signs of pride:

Re-write the post above without saying "me" or "I" or any such references.
It's quite the challenge.
 
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I think being 'proud of one's wife; proud of your children' should more accurately be translated 'Pleased' or 'Delighted', to another extension 'Glory' or 'Honor'.

Your wife is your glory, your honor etc. Same meaning as your pride and joy, but doesn't have the negative connotation to it that 'pride' brings.

ETA: Do a bible study on the words 'pleased'; 'delighted'; 'glory' and 'honor' and see what you find. First example would be "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased."
 
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I am interested in a discussion on Pride.

We know from scripture that this sin is at the root of many ungodly actions.

It is a sin to be taken seriously there seems to be no place for pride in the heart of a believer.

Unlike Anger there is no such thing as righteous pride.

Having been delivered from darkness I am very cautious about allowing any prideful thoughts or feelings to take hold.

Yet I am noticing that pride is often accepted as 'normal'

Being proud of ones achievements, proud of ones wife and family, proud of ones country, would suggest that there is a righteous pride, but I see no scriptural support for this.

I guess I see all that is good coming from God's hand so there is no room to boast.

Have I taken a view that is too radical or have I missed something.

As we gain new knowledge, even get better than those around us, pride tries to sneak in. I am currently undergoing some natural learning, and it is almost as if God said to me "Be careful you don't get prideful and boast", so I instantly prayed, "God help me learn well, but keep me humble and free from pride". I believe the Holy Spirit can keep us humble if we are willing. As the bible says "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble". I guess it is partly a conscious choice to keep our boasting in check, and continually ask God to keep us humble.
 
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So when folks say (for example) you must be proud of your son (when he achieves) what should my response be ???
If we had no love in the heart, I do not believe we would even care that we had no love. So, also I believe that it's vanity in the creature that thinks we can not be vain. We all tend to take God for granted in some degree.
 
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Paul was prideful and talked about this, at least in the spanish translation, 'orgulloso' 'prideful' pride etc, Paul mentioned this several times
“I have the highest confidence in you, and I take great pride in you. You have greatly encouraged me and made me happy despite all our troubles

I think there is sinful pride and normal pride. maybe idk.
 
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So when folks say (for example) you must be proud of your son (when he achieves) what should my response be ???
Where is the self interest in being proud of your son? Even the Father said He was well pleased with His son.
 
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So if Satan was well pleased with himself - this would be OK ??
Being pleased with (proud of) self is not the same as being pleased with (proud of) others. One takes, the other gives. God, since the Garden, is not pleased with those who look to self. Eve committed the original sin of putting her will, her self interest before the will of Him.
 
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I am interested in a discussion on Pride.

We know from scripture that this sin is at the root of many ungodly actions.

It is a sin to be taken seriously there seems to be no place for pride in the heart of a believer.

Unlike Anger there is no such thing as righteous pride.

Having been delivered from darkness I am very cautious about allowing any prideful thoughts or feelings to take hold.

Yet I am noticing that pride is often accepted as 'normal'

Being proud of ones achievements, proud of ones wife and family, proud of ones country, would suggest that there is a righteous pride, but I see no scriptural support for this.

I guess I see all that is good coming from God's hand so there is no room to boast.

Have I taken a view that is too radical or have I missed something.

Taking a look at Proverbs:

Pro 6:16 These six things the LORD hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:

Pro 6:17

A proud look,
A lying tongue,

If I can get this image to load you will understand what is meant by it:
 

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I am interested in a discussion on Pride.

We know from scripture that this sin is at the root of many ungodly actions.

It is a sin to be taken seriously there seems to be no place for pride in the heart of a believer.

Unlike Anger there is no such thing as righteous pride.

Having been delivered from darkness I am very cautious about allowing any prideful thoughts or feelings to take hold.

Yet I am noticing that pride is often accepted as 'normal'

Being proud of ones achievements, proud of ones wife and family, proud of ones country, would suggest that there is a righteous pride, but I see no scriptural support for this.

I guess I see all that is good coming from God's hand so there is no room to boast.

Have I taken a view that is too radical or have I missed something.
All sin is based in pride. It simply is: Pleasing myself is more important than pleasing God.
 
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So when folks say (for example) you must be proud of your son (when he achieves) what should my response be ???

A word only holds as must power as you give it. In this situation, I see nothing inherently bad with using the word 'proud' over 'delighted'; however, if it makes you feel uncomfortable do what politicians do all the time, you say what you want to say; you deflect; you twist words.

"You must be [so] proud of your son for . . . [winning the little league]."

"He practiced hard, and I was so delighted when he won!"
"Ah! Whether he won or whether he lost, he's my little blessing from God. I love my little buddy."

My mother would say 'Take pride in yourself'; when what she meant was not about boasting in yourself with an air of superiority, but having self-respect. Care for yourself; take care of yourself, which are all biblical principles. "Love others as yourself"; if we are to love others as we love ourselves, then God permits that we do love ourselves. But there's a difference between being a narcissist and self-absorbed and just cherishing the body and mind that God gave us and taking care of it, making it yourself presentable because you represent God.

Taking pride in your children, means that you want them to be well-dressed; well-feed; well-educated because it benefits them. If you're doing it to make yourself look good as a parent, that's where the sin of pride comes in. If you're using your children to garner attention and praise for yourself, you're being prideful. If you're doing it to one-up another parent, you're being prideful.

I, myself, wouldn't get too hung up on the word but rather the motive or the emotions behind the word. But if it bothers you, just dump it from your vocabulary and switch over to using other words like 'delighted'; 'pleased'; 'love'; 'adore' etc.
 
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I am interested in a discussion on Pride.

We know from scripture that this sin is at the root of many ungodly actions.

It is a sin to be taken seriously there seems to be no place for pride in the heart of a believer.

Unlike Anger there is no such thing as righteous pride.

Having been delivered from darkness I am very cautious about allowing any prideful thoughts or feelings to take hold.

Yet I am noticing that pride is often accepted as 'normal'

Being proud of ones achievements, proud of ones wife and family, proud of ones country, would suggest that there is a righteous pride, but I see no scriptural support for this.

I guess I see all that is good coming from God's hand so there is no room to boast.

Have I taken a view that is too radical or have I missed something.
Beloved one, I am glad that you brought this discussion on the sin of pride.
I barely notice and should not be unconscious about this because the sin of pride cause much despondency, shame and destruction.

For we heard:
“A man's pride shall bring him low:
But honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭29:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“When pride cometh, then cometh shame: But with the lowly is wisdom.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭11:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Pride goeth before destruction,
And an haughty spirit before a fall.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭16:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I consider that we may be mistakenly considered pride as a badge of honor.
If we have considered pride as a badge of honor, we are unaware that we are being deceived.

So we should not conform to the world or to the pride of the world, but be transformed by renewing our minds, that we may prove what good honor, acceptable honor, and perfect honor, that is according to the will of God.

For good honor, acceptable honor and perfect. honor, shall uphold the humble in spirit.

With the lowly, Christ who made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of the bond servant, and coming in the likeliness of men, and being found in appearance of man, He humbled Himself and become obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross is wisdom that comes from God.

So humility comes before honor.
And so let us be filled with humble spirit, that He may raise us up.

To God the Father be thanksgiving through Christ. Amen
 
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