My Search for the Countdown to Christ’s Atonement

Christian Gedge

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Do you realize your "Christian" "puffed up" comment (as a guest in this MJ forum) comes across as talking down to a Messianic member of this CF forum?

No, I wasn't aware of that.

What needs some clarification is why you didn't Title this thread ... My Search for the Countdown to Christ’s Reign (or Kingdom) ... or "Anointing" instead of "Atonement" ? Doing so gives one the impression that you may actually believe Christ's Atonement wasn't fullly filfilled at Calvary.

I'll try to reply a different way to this when I get back.
 
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The Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) was the one day of the year the High Priest would enter the Holy of Holies to make atonement for himself and the people. Today, many Messianics fast on this day and remember the mighty works Mashiach Yeshuah did as our High Priest. (Leviticus 23:26-32, Hebrews 9:11-12)
The three Fall Feasts Of The LORD (Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot) have yet to be fulfilled for the remnant of Israel as well as all mankind.

Zechariah 8:22-23
 
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The three Fall Feasts Of The LORD (Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot) have yet to be fulfilled for the remnant of Israel as well as all mankind.

Zechariah 8:22-23
For humble Gentile Christians:
  • Yom Teruah = New Years Day (1st Tishri)
  • Yom Kippur = Day of Atonement (10th Tishri)
  • Sukkot = Feast of Tabernacles
So, only Passover and Pentecost was fulfilled at Messiah's first coming?
'have to chew on this. :|
 
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Hello Mr. Gedge my apologies for not returning to our discussion here sooner as I was occupied in other affairs. I wanted to know why you haven't tried to trace the jubilee pattern back to Adam? I saw in your work that you were able to trace as far back as Abraham, but why not further?
 
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When I first started writing "The Atonement Clock" I was focused on how Daniel's 70 weeks were part of the Sabbatic / Jubilee system. So, initially my start point was the Persian Era. Then I noticed a progression of 490's that could not be ignored. Bethel to Moses; Moses to the first temple; the temple to Artaxerxes decree; then from the decree to Jesus. (see chapter 4)

I stopped at Abraham, yes, but I have to admit the possibilities of an an earlier count would be intriguing. For example, it is close to 490 years from Peleg to Jacobs' Bethel experience. However, Im not sure how that fits with my theme of atonement. Also, a problem with earlier chronology is the likelihood (IMO) of skipped generations between Eber and Peleg.

Another reason why I started at Bethel was because it was the earliest beginning of Israel which, as you know, was the chosen nation who would carry the seed until the birth of Messiah.
 
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When I first started writing "The Atonement Clock" I was focused on how Daniel's 70 weeks were part of the Sabbatic / Jubilee system. So, initially my start point was the Persian Era. Then I noticed a progression of 490's that could not be ignored. Bethel to Moses; Moses to the first temple; the temple to Artaxerxes decree; then from the decree to Jesus. (see chapter 4)

I stopped at Abraham, yes, but I have to admit the possibilities of an an earlier count would be intriguing. For example, it is close to 490 years from Peleg to Jacobs' Bethel experience. However, Im not sure how that fits with my theme of atonement. Also, a problem with earlier chronology is the likelihood (IMO) of skipped generations between Eber and Peleg.

Another reason why I started at Bethel was because it was the earliest beginning of Israel which, as you know, was the chosen nation who would carry the seed until the birth of Messiah.
That's understanable enough. Have you ever considered Adam to be part of the Atonement plan? Or whether or not He is the prototype of Christ?
 
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That's understanable enough. Have you ever considered Adam to be part of the Atonement plan? Or whether or not He is the prototype of Christ?

Well, we do have, "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8) so, you're right. I'll be talking to St. Peter before you and will ask him all the tricky questions. :D
 
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Well, we do have, "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:8) so, you're right. I'll be talking to St. Peter before you and will ask him all the tricky questions. :D
That is a funny way to say the way in which you will get your answer ha ha ha. Have you considered why at the end of Luke's geneaology he says:

"[...]Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God"

:)
 
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That is a funny way to say the way in which you will get your answer ha ha ha. Have you considered why at the end of Luke's geneaology he says:

"[...]Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God"

:)
I should also add that 1 Chronicles 1:1 begins its chronlogy with Adam and works all the way down to king David. Seeing that Adam is the progenitor of mankind then whose son is he? And if we know who the father of Adam is then is he also the father of Christ? ;)
 
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