Pennsylvania borough set to repeal LGBT protections 4 months after passing them

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Let's take a look at what the current ordinance protects.
it says a person can't be fired from their job just because they are LGBT
it says an LGBT person can't be denied housing just because they are LGBT
It says a person can't be evicted from their home just because they are LGBT
It says people can't be denied access to shops and business just because they are LGBT

WOW this ordinance is horrible and unamerican. what about the rights of good honest hard working bigots?

Did you take a look at what part(s) the opposition actually opposes?
For lo, if not then-
to call them bigots is, well, you name it.
 
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Did you take a look at what the opposition actually opposes,
For lo, if not then-
to call them bigots is, wel, you name it.

Yes, we have seen it clearly over the past decades. Every move towards equality has been opposed. It is not like we need to investigate each separate instance to see if this time they really do mean well.
 
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Im not the one crying bigot.
so you haven't read the legislation and you don't seem to know that the new republicans want to repeal the entire law. but you are willing to defend them and their plan.

Right

they want to repeal the legislation that prevents LGBT individuals from being fired from their job just because they are LGBT. If they were moving to repeal the law that prevents non-CHristians from being fired from their jobs just because of their religion it would be called bigotry.

they want to repeal the legislation that prevents business owners from refusing to sell goods and services they provide to everyone else to LGBT individuals. If they were moving to repeal the law that prevents business owners form discriminating based on skin color it would be called bigotry

They want to repeal the legislation that prevents landlords from evicting people from their homes just because they are LGBT. If they were wanting to remove such protections from hardscaped people it would be called bigotry.
 
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Did you take a look at what part(s) the opposition actually opposes?

I haven't seen a clear articulation of what the opposition's points are.

The councilman in the OP was quoted as saying that he thought the legislation was redundant (since the state could cover it) and lacked teeth, and that he was interested in making government more streamlines.

Assuming he's being sincere in his claims, then swiftly moving to repeal is something of an odd response. At best, he's arguing that he doesn't want it to be the job of the town to get involved in these matters. But he also said that a bunch of his constituents didn't want the ordinance passed and I find it hard to believe that their big concern is an extra layer of bureaucracy.

I found a bit of the back story, from when this ordinance was first being proposed:
Chambersburg Borough Council meeting heats up with a discussion of LGBTQ rights - Tri-State Alert

It seems there's a bit of a power struggle going on.
 
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I haven't seen a clear articulation of what the opposition's points are.

The councilman in the OP was quoted as saying that he thought the legislation was redundant (since the state could cover it) and lacked teeth, and that he was interested in making government more streamlines.

Assuming he's being sincere in his claims, then swiftly moving to repeal is something of an odd response. At best, he's arguing that he doesn't want it to be the job of the town to get involved in these matters. But he also said that a bunch of his constituents didn't want the ordinance passed and I find it hard to believe that their big concern is an extra layer of bureaucracy.

I found a bit of the back story, from when this ordinance was first being proposed:
Chambersburg Borough Council meeting heats up with a discussion of LGBTQ rights - Tri-State Alert

It seems there's a bit of a power struggle going on.

Once the redundant bureaucracy is set up.
just try to ever shut it down.
 
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so you haven't read the legislation and you don't seem to know that the new republicans want to repeal the entire law. but you are willing to defend them and their plan.

Right

they want to repeal the legislation that prevents LGBT individuals from being fired from their job just because they are LGBT. If they were moving to repeal the law that prevents non-CHristians from being fired from their jobs just because of their religion it would be called bigotry.

they want to repeal the legislation that prevents business owners from refusing to sell goods and services they provide to everyone else to LGBT individuals. If they were moving to repeal the law that prevents business owners form discriminating based on skin color it would be called bigotry

They want to repeal the legislation that prevents landlords from evicting people from their homes just because they are LGBT. If they were wanting to remove such protections from hardscaped people it would be called bigotry.

You see a need for redundant legislation that has no enforcement power?
 
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It would be unnecessary if the State had laws that would apply. As far as I can tell they do not. The Supreme.Court has established Federal protections for employment. So far I don’t think it has gone beyond that.

Check b4 think
 
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You see a need for redundant legislation that has no enforcement power?

There is no civil rights legislation in place for this at the state of federal level. SO it is not redundant.

and who says there is no power to enforce?
 
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From the OP: "Pennsylvania is one of 27 states that have no explicit statewide laws protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations."
 
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It would be unnecessary if the State had laws that would apply. As far as I can tell they do not. The Supreme.Court has established Federal protections for employment. So far I don’t think it has gone beyond that.

From the OP: "Pennsylvania is one of 27 states that have no explicit statewide laws protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations."

From what I can find, PA has rules that explicitly prohibit discrimination based on sex, and the decision to include lgbtq concerns under the banner of "sex" is being handled as a matter of regulatory interpretation by the commission that administers those regulations.

Can I be evicted if I'm trans? Your tenant rights in Pennsylvania if you identify as LGBTQ.
About PHRC

So, it's not that PA doesn't have these rules at all - it's that they kind of sort of have the rules, but they're subject to change.
 
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Central Pa. borough poised to become first to repeal LGBTQ protections

The plan by Chambersburg Borough Council to vote Monday to rescind the anti-discrimination ordinance comes only four months after the borough ratified the ordinance in October.

The ordinance, which extends protections against discrimination to gay, transgender or genderqueer people in employment, housing and public accommodations, was passed in October by the then-Democratic majority council.

The political makeup of the council, however, changed with the November municipal election, which ushered in a 7-3 Republican majority.

If Chambersburg succeeds in repealing the ordinance, it would mark the first time an LGBTQ inclusive law is revoked in Pennsylvania. To date, 70 municipalities, including Gettysburg, Shippensburg, Carlisle, Camp Hill and Harrisburg, have ratified such ordinances.

Pennsylvania is one of 27 states that have no explicit statewide laws protecting people from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing and public accommodations.
Good. Land lords should be able to choose according to their standards.
 
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