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Artists, the great ones, always apprehend something important about the universe, usually without being aware of the science behind it.

Fractal analysis of the paintings

When looking at Pollock’s work, Professor Taylor found staggering examples of Pollock’s use or accidental inclusion of fractals (the artist, as far as we know, never commented on them). Taylor took 20 canvases from a nine-year period when Pollock was honing and perfecting his drip paintings. The physicist scanned photographic versions of the paintings (as some are now valued at more than $30million he was unable to work with the originals). With these scanned versions Taylor used complex computer programs to divide the images into areas less than 2mm across. Looking at the images from this distance, Taylor concluded that the paintings contained similar fractal patterns to those found in nature.

It is one thing being able to painting simple fractal structures, but if you’ve ever seen a Pollock in a gallery (the Tate Modern in London has some, as does MoMA in New York) then you’ll know that the drip paintings are not simple. These large-scale paintings, sometimes many meters long, are complex and appear random. The idea that someone could have placed fractals into the painting, sometimes minute in their size, seems impossible. But to prove his theory that Pollock knew what he was doing, Taylor got out the paint brushes and went to work…
Fractal analysis - Painting Mathematics of Jackson Pollock's paintings


This, I suppose, is why I find Pollock's paintings beautiful, even though I don't have much use for abstract expressionism otherwise. The patterns in his work mimic the patterns found in nature, in a very deep and abstract way.

So I'm not surprised that another great artist anticipated the atmosphere of Jupiter.

Fractals are attractive to people and even more if you can obscure it.

Sometimes I think artists (not just painters) are sourcing inspirations including fiction from something real, not just imagined and could have existed in the distant past or possibly the future or just some very far away place like another planet or another star.
 
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Either way it looks like a work of art .

You can almost see the texture.

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Texture? This is obviously two dimensional, just like a picture on a wall. Are there any Flat Jupiter proponents?
 
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Texture? This is obviously two dimensional, just like a picture on a wall. Are there any Flat Jupiter proponents?



I use a high def PC monitor. On my screen the Jupiter pic looks like a painting done using oil on canvas or gouache leaving the impression it has a texture.

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I use a high def PC monitor. On my screen the Jupiter pic looks like a painting done using oil on canvas or gouache leaving the impression it has a texture.

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I'd explain the joke; but I don't want to take this thread off topic.

When my screen gets that way; I use a damp cloth to gently get that texture off. ;)
 
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I'd explain the joke; but I don't want to take this thread off topic.

When my screen gets that way; I use a damp cloth to gently get that texture off. ;)


Ahhhh. In my defence- it's early morning here, I just got up. At this time of the morning my brain has the functionality of porridge. :(

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Sometimes I think artists (not just painters) are sourcing inspirations including fiction from something real, not just imagined and could have existed in the distant past or possibly the future or just some very far away place like another planet or another star.

Or maybe physics and motion work pretty much the same way everywhere. If you're interested in that idea and maybe why brains and the universe seem to reflect each other...

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This law, proposed by engineer Adrian Bejean, predicts a very large number of physical and biological processes. Worth looking into, if you care about such things. The idea is that nature tends to assume forms that facilitate movement of matter and energy in any given system.
 
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I use a high def PC monitor. On my screen the Jupiter pic looks like a painting done using oil on canvas or gouache leaving the impression it has a texture.

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It kinda looks like digital processing artifacts. They are probably absent in the massive, >12k raw images. The raw images can be huge, a single picture file can reach 1 gigabytes in size!
 
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Or maybe physics and motion work pretty much the same way everywhere. If you're interested in that idea and maybe why brains and the universe seem to reflect each other...

This law, proposed by engineer Adrian Bejean, predicts a very large number of physical and biological processes. Worth looking into, if you care about such things. The idea is that nature tends to assume forms that facilitate movement of matter and energy in any given system.

I did study fractals in the past, they have one common attribute and the primary driving factor seems to be electromagnetism. Pre-existent non-neutral electrical charges are involved in all cases.
 
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I did study fractals in the past, they have one common attribute and the primary driving factor seems to be electromagnetism. Pre-existent non-neutral electrical charges are involved in all cases.

It involves more than that. For example, fluctuations in stock market prices have a fractal structure. This, I think, is why things like Pollock's paint drips have such a hold on the viewer.

If you're interested in the subject, you might want to look into 1/n noise. ("pink noise")
Pink noise - Wikipedia

Martin Gardner, in Scientific American, had a simple system for generating 1/n noise by using binary numbers. I once played with it to generate musical tones, which were rather odd, but interesting. The article has a link to his column, but you'll need to get past the paywall to read it.
 
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It involves more than that. For example, fluctuations in stock market prices have a fractal structure. This, I think, is why things like Pollock's paint drips have such a hold on the viewer.

If you're interested in the subject, you might want to look into 1/n noise. ("pink noise")
Pink noise - Wikipedia

Martin Gardner, in Scientific American, had a simple system for generating 1/n noise by using binary numbers. I once played with it to generate musical tones, which were rather odd, but interesting. The article has a link to his column, but you'll need to get past the paywall to read it.

Stock market is millions of people trying to draw the prettiest, most comprehensible looking wavy line as possible and their results getting averaged. It's the human brain, but of many people, results of electrical signals from the brain. Still electric.

One thing you can't tie to anything is perfectly random numbers. Once I used the non-repeating decimal numbers from Pi, adding up the first 100 digits and so on, and so forth, as far as your computer can handle.

I still saw some fractals and some repeating patterns which is uncanny to say the least like what is going on. Like we could all have spontaneously existed and evolved from nothing more than ridiculously simple process even a little child can do with ease and we are nothing more than living manifestations of electrical energy.

On paper, I saw some fractals but EM energy manifest them into reality.
 
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I still saw some fractals and some repeating patterns which is uncanny to say the least like what is going on. Like we could all have spontaneously existed and evolved from nothing more than ridiculously simple process even a little child can do with ease and we are nothing more than living manifestations of electrical energy.

On paper, I saw some fractals but EM energy manifest them into reality.

Sounds like the theory that the only real thing in the universe is information, and matter is just a manifestation of information.
 
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