Judging the Twelve tribes of Israel

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What to make of Matthew 19:28? It is a passage that speaks of the future, but the intriguing part is Jesus telling his disciples that they will judge the twelve tribes of Israel. What context can this be put in?

Later on, in Matthew 28:19, he tells his disciples to spread the Word, proclaiming the gospel to the whole creation. This is what Jesus wants done in the present. So, it seems the disciples are commissioned to spreading the Word to the whole creation, then sometime in the future they are to circle back and judge the twelve tribes of Israel. In what sense are the twelve tribes of Israel to be judged? The twelve tribes are not the whole creation. Does Jesus expect his disciples to criticize the twelve tribes for, say, continuing to be indebted to God via the Law? Are the disciples expected to hold up the twelve tribes to the rest of the creation, as an example of those who reject Christ?

Commentators write that the disciples, on their thrones, are to condemn the twelve tribes for rejecting Christ. Is this for lack of anything better for the disciples to do at that point in time? How does that promote Lord Jesus and his glory? Perhaps it’s just a form of justice exerted on a people who’ve rejected Lord Jesus. And while those who love Lord Jesus are allowed to enter God’s Kingdom, the rest, including the twelve tribes, are given a parting shot by effectively being told, ‘You can’t come in!’

I guess in a sense, those who remain among the twelve tribes have had the devil for their father, who was a murderer from the Beginning, as Jesus alludes to in John 8:44?
 

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All of Israel as well as the lost ten tribes will be brought back. Israel was split during the reign of Rehoboam into the Northern Kingdom which is called the House of Israel and The Kingdom of Judah. The Assyrians took the House of Israel away and they became the lost ten tribes. Jesus Christ was preaching not only to the Jews, but was giving a message to His people. No one is lost geographically to God. He knows exactly where they are.



Matthew 15:24 "But [Jesus Christ] answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

James 1:1 "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes scattered among the nations: Greetings."




THE PROPHESY

Ezekiel 11:14 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, “Son of man, your brothers—your relatives, your fellow exiles, and the whole house of Israel—are those of whom the people of Jerusalem have said, ‘They are far away from the LORD; this land has been given to us as a possession.’ Therefore declare that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘Although I sent them far away among the nations and scattered them among the countries, yet for a little while I have been a sanctuary for them in the countries to which they have gone.’ Therefore declare that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘I will gather you from the peoples and assemble you from the countries to which you have been scattered, and I will give back to you the land of Israel.’ When they return to it, they will remove all its detestable things and all its abominations. And I will give them singleness of heart and put a new spirit within them; I will remove their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh, so that they may follow My statutes, keep My ordinances, and practice them. Then they will be My people, and I will be their God.

Acts 1:6 "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?"

Jeremiah 16:14 Yet behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when they will no longer say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of Egypt.’ Instead they will say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of the north and all the other lands to which He had banished them.’ For I will return them to their land that I gave to their forefathers.

Jeremiah 23:5-8 Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and He will reign wisely as King and will administer justice and righteousness in the land. In His days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is His name by which He will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness. So behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when they will no longer say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of Egypt.’ Instead they will say, ‘As surely as the LORD lives, who brought and led the descendants of the house of Israel up out of the land of the north and all the other lands to which He had banished them.’ Then they will dwell once more in their own land.”

Jeremiah 30:3 "For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it."


There's a clear distinction here between Judah and Israel: The Kingdom of Judah and the House of Israel.

The disciples will be judges over the twelve tribes when they are re-established. So let's say that Peter is the Supreme Court Judge over the Tribe of Judah. Any hard cases will be sent up the ladder to him and he will judge them.

See Exodus 18:13-22
 
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The twelve tribes are still Gods chosen people and what they would do and the later times is very specifically prophecied by Jacob. Has God written them off? I don't think so! Why are their futures prophecied in the bible, if God just written them off? If the bible says it that good enough for me!
 
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What to make of Matthew 19:28? It is a passage that speaks of the future, but the intriguing part is Jesus telling his disciples that they will judge the twelve tribes of Israel. What context can this be put in?

The context itself tells you exactly when the disciples would be seated on those 12 thrones. It would be "in the regeneration, when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory." And just when was Christ seated on that throne of his glory? Peter on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:29-36) told the people that Christ was even then already seated on the throne of his father David which was promised to Him. Christ's resurrection was the "regeneration" which He had spoken of in advance. This particular "regeneration" was when Christ was raised from the dead, with God giving Him glory (1 Peter 1:21).

These 12 thrones with the 12 disciples sitting on thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel was to have them in charge of setting up the early church among the believing Jews in Jerusalem. This involved practical matters such as setting up deacons, arranging care for widows, handling financial collections to disperse among the needy, commissioning evangelists and ministers by the laying on of hands, making decrees about the circumcision question, but above all, establishing and maintaining Christ's doctrine among the early church.

These 12 thrones for the 12 disciples in those days was meant to be a throwback to the "thrones of judgment" in Jerusalem from old time, to which the tribes went up to have weightier matters of the law decided (Psalms 122:2-5 compared with Deuteronomy 17:8-12). Because we are told that the 12 apostles of the Lamb form the 12 foundations of the walls of the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21:14.

This early church was originally concentrated with the believing Jews of the tribes of Israel in Jerusalem, but rapidly spread out from there to Samaria, etc. So this prophecy had to be connected to a time when the 12 tribes were still around. That was before God got rid of the Israelite genealogies, which in Paul's time were getting undue elevated status that needed to be eradicated. By that time, Paul was calling them "endless genealogies which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith" (1 Timothy 1:4), and also "unprofitable and vain" (Titus 3:9). So, the "tribes of Israel" themselves reached a point when they were to be phased out; leaving the 12 apostles of the Lamb as the original foundation of the church along with Christ the "chief cornerstone".
 
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