Is Joe Biden a Failed President? video

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I was referring to Biden's big speech promising all those things.

BTW, it's not called "the Great Recession" (which term you also used in your post) for nothing!

It's the "Great Recession" because it was the longest-running recession in US history. That's Obama's doing.
No ... if, anything, the housing market crash leading to the Great Recession occurred under GWB. In contrast, Obama reversed the economy's dive in a year.
 
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I agree. The team that has failed miserably by the end of the first quarter still has an outside change of turning it around and winning the game. But the people jumping up and down trying to alibi for Biden's failures have only that to fall back on--the highly improbable chance that he will overcome a 30 point deficit in the next three quarters.
Biden's approval has dropped to 43%, still higher than Trump's approval for most of his presidency.

Biden only needs an additional 8 points in approval, to gain the support of the majority of Americans. I'd be willing to bet that, when COVID eases, he's got it ...
 
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No ... if, anything, the housing market crash leading to the Great Recession occurred under GWB.
"Occurred" and "leading to" weren't the point there. The fact is that Obama never got us out of it although he had eight long years to do it.
 
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Biden's approval has dropped to 43%,
That and NBC (44%) would be the most favorable of the half-dozen or so polls conducted lately by the usual polling companies (The Economist, Politico, Rasmussen, Quinnipiac, Trafalgar, etc.).
 
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It's been one year ... with a pandemic raging.

Even Obama's recovery from GWB's Great Recession didn't start until a year after he was in office ...
I don't believe that you can blame COVID for:

The open border
Closing of the pipeline and making the US a importer instead of exporter of energy.
The rampant crime in many states.
The absolute atrocity of the departure from Afghanistan
The polarization of the citizens of the country
The lack of resistance and deterants for Russia moving on the Ukraine, China into the Philipeans and the rising unrest in the Middle East.

Biden and Harris do not have an approval rating that is in free fall..... because of COVID.
 
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The irony of this thread is even if Joe accomplished his entire agenda in his first year it is very probable the usual critics would view Biden as a failure. In retrospect, I think Biden has been successful in at least two areas. First he beat trump and alleviated that threat. Second, he already brought our troops home from the 20 year expensive political war in Afghanistan. Congress is what remains a failure to Americans. The peril remains.....
 
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They do control the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives. The only exception is that if there is a tie vote in the Senate, their person, Kamala Harris, has to break the tie.

How much better positioned can any party be?
I’m pretty sure you’re aware it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass most bills under current rules.
 
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The irony of this thread is even if Joe accomplished his entire agenda in his first year it is very probable the usual critics would view Biden as a failure.
Maybe they would. However, that doesn't do a thing to absolve Biden of having been a failure...and that is what we are discussing here.

I think Biden has been successful in at least two areas. First he beat trump and alleviated that threat. Second, he already brought our troops home from the 20 year expensive political war in Afghanistan.
I've given it some thought as well. My conclusion is that Biden might, just might, be credited with one thing. That is to say, keeping new wars from developing. However, it's a conditional 'pat on the back' because he has invited his ally Putin to invade Ukraine, and no one thinks China fears any blowback from the likes of Hunter's dad if she decides to attack Taiwan.

Trump, as we know, was the first president in a long while not to involve us in any new conflicts. We should see pretty soon if Biden can match that record. At the moment, it looks very doubtful.
 
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I’m pretty sure you’re aware it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass most bills under current rules.
First, that's not correct to say. Most legislation (and presidential nominations) passes with a simple majority.

That aside, what's your point? I don't believe I misrepresented the Democrats' control of the House, Senate, and Presidency.
 
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The irony of this thread is even if Joe accomplished his entire agenda in his first year it is very probable the usual critics would view Biden as a failure. In retrospect, I think Biden has been successful in at least two areas. First he beat trump and alleviated that threat. Second, he already brought our troops home from the 20 year expensive political war in Afghanistan. Congress is what remains a failure to Americans. The peril remains.....
SO...

He has record inflation
He has record violence
He has record supply chain problems
He has record national debt
He has record border breach of illegal migrants
He has the lowest approval ratings
He has the most invisible VP who also has the lowest approval ratings of a VP
He has absolutely no respect from the leaders of other nations
He has control of the house and the senate and cannot pass anything


BUT... he beat out Trump... How's that working for ya?

AND..

He pulled out of Afghanistan.... However.

He called on a drone strike that killed innocent people.
He left the people who literally saved his life.. there to die.
He stranded people who worked along side of the US military, against the enemies, alone with their personal information and locations exposed.
He left men, women and children there to fend for themselves.
He left American and allied civilians there with no more protection.
He left billions of dollars worth of fully functional high tech military equipment to the Taliban


Ya.... great.
 
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I’m pretty sure you’re aware it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass most bills under current rules.
In some cases they need the 60% of the votes.. for good reason. This ensures that it is a solid democratic decision.

Both sides have wanted to get rid of this check in order to pass something that is questionable.

There is a really good clip of Chuck Shumer from 20 years ago, giving a real good speech on why it should be kept in play..
Fast forward to today.. and he wants it gone. Ahhhh politicians.
 
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There is a really good clip of Chuck Shumer from 20 years ago, giving a real good speech on why it should be kept in play..
Fast forward to today.. and he wants it gone. Ahhhh politicians.
I'm pretty sure that if you looked long and hard enough, you'd find Schumer arguing against doing away with the filibuster in much more recent days. The Democrats in the Senate used the filibuster only this week when it was to their benefit.
 
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Maybe they would. However, that doesn't do a thing to absolve Biden of having been a failure...and that is what we are discussing here.


I've given it some thought as well. My conclusion is that Biden might, just might, be credited with one thing. That is to say, keeping new wars from developing. However, it's a conditional 'pat on the back' because he has invited his ally Putin to invade Ukraine, and no one thinks China fears any blowback from the likes of Hunter's dad if she decides to attack Taiwan.

Trump, as we know, was the first president in a long while not to involve us in any new conflicts. We should see pretty soon if Biden can match that record. At the moment, it looks very doubtful.
Your perceptions are skewed friend. Putin was an ally of trump, while trump was relevant. When asked point blank if he thought Putin was a killer, Joe said yes. I cannot recall a single instance of trump holding Putin accountable for anything. And Joe has been successful in many eyes due to his landslide defeat of the grifter. That opinion is as valid as yours, maybe more because we have evidence. Joe sits in the Oval Office. The insurrection was an embarrassing "new conflict" trump got us into as well. "Come to DC on January 6th. It's gonna be wild!"
I must admit you are an enigma. It's as if you are some kind of thespian up in here just acting the part. You nearly seem too intelligent to believe your own posts.
 
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Biden's approval has dropped to 43%, still higher than Trump's approval for most of his presidency.

Biden only needs an additional 8 points in approval, to gain the support of the majority of Americans.

And the negatives have to drop by the same percentage. In other words, he's "underwater" as they say by about 15 POINTS!

That's considered huge by the pollsters.

And that's the situation if we go by the results of your most optimistic of poll results. If we were to use the average of the leading polls, the shortfall would be even greater.
 
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I'm pretty sure that if you looked long and hard enough, you'd find Schumer arguing against doing away with the filibuster in much more recent days. The Democrats in the Senate used the filibuster only this week when it was to their benefit.
I believe that if either side was, at some point, successful in removing it.. they would later regret it.
 
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SO...

He has record inflation
He has record violence
He has record supply chain problems
He has record national debt
He has record border breach of illegal migrants
He has the lowest approval ratings
He has the most invisible VP who also has the lowest approval ratings of a VP
He has absolutely no respect from the leaders of other nations
He has control of the house and the senate and cannot pass anything


BUT... he beat out Trump... How's that working for ya?

AND..

He pulled out of Afghanistan.... However.

He called on a drone strike that killed innocent people.
He left the people who literally saved his life.. there to die.
He stranded people who worked along side of the US military, against the enemies, alone with their personal information and locations exposed.
He left men, women and children there to fend for themselves.
He left American and allied civilians there with no more protection.
He left billions of dollars worth of fully functional high tech military equipment to the Taliban


Ya.... great.
Well, it seems you are beginning to grasp why Hillary didn't want to be president after trump. Good deal.
 
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Your perceptions are skewed friend. Putin was an ally of trump, while trump was relevant.
No. That 'Russia Russia Russia' hoax was exploded long ago. But Biden has been deferring to Putin, and at our expense, since reaching the White House.

When asked point blank if he thought Putin was a killer, Joe said yes.
What did you expect him to say?--"I want to help the guy as much as possible?"
 
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Well, it seems you are beginning to grasp why Hillary didn't want to be president after trump. Good deal.
OH... I see. Bidens failures are Trumps fault... gottcha...
It was Trump that openned the border.. nope
It was Trump that killed the pipeline and put the US in an Energy importer instead of Exporter... Nope
It was Trump that caused the crime wave... Nope.. it's in the states run by Democrats
It was Trump that had no respect from the leaders of other nations of power... Nope.

You cannot keep blaming Trump for everything. Biden wrote numerous "executive ordres" as soon as he was inaugurated.... all were bad ideas and opposed what Trump was trying to do.

He owns this all by himself... Except for all his handlers, cue cards, teleprompters, speech writers, consultants and puppet masters.
 
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I don't know ... how long did it take Trump to do so ?

P.S. Obama's job growth
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In comparison to the results of others ...
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Under Biden, 6.4 million jobs have been created, and the GDP is high.

The Biden Boom: Economic Recovery in 2021

Though the United States faces serious economic challenges amid the ongoing global pandemic, 2021 was an extraordinary year of economic growth and recovery. The country saw record job gains and an unprecedented drop in unemployment. The economy likely grew faster than in any year since 1984, as measured by real gross domestic product (GDP). In 2021, the economy not only regained all pandemic-related GDP losses—it also surpassed pre-pandemic levels. Despite elevated inflation, Americans’ disposable incomes were higher in 2021 in real (inflation-adjusted) terms than they were in 2019 and 2020. Additionally, by many important measures such as savings and bank balances, Americans are more financially secure. The United States also made dramatic progress in lowering its exceptionally high rate of child poverty.


Biden's Economic Performance Has Proved Unbeatable

U.S. financial markets are outperforming the world by the biggest margin in the 21st century, and with good reason: America’s economy improved more in Joe Biden's first 12 months than any president during the past 50 years notwithstanding the contrary media narrative contributing to dour public opinion.

Exceptional returns from dollar-denominated assets, especially the S&P 500 Index in both absolute terms and relative to its global counterparts, can be attributed to record-low debt ratios enabling companies to reap the biggest profit margins since 1950. Corporate America is booming because the Biden administration's Covid-19 vaccination programs and $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan reduced the jobless rate to 4.2% in November from 6.2% in February, continuing an unprecedented rate of decline during the Covid-19 pandemic.
So since Jan. 2021, the US has had:

- record job gains (6.2 mil per Factcheck.org)
- a jobless rate of 3.9% (per Factcheck.org)
. an economy that grew the fastest since 1984
- higher disposable incomes for many Americans
- 210,000,000 Americans fully vaccinated
- 500,000 more Americans got Health Insurance

and more.​
 
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