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Apologies I see there is two calendars overlaid my mistake, I will edit my earlier post.
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Sure it does. You just do not understand Jewish reckoning for time. Why is it so important to you anyway and why make such an issue? For me I see in the scriptures that Jesus used the phrase “on the third day” to describe the time of His resurrection after His crucifixion (Matthew 16:21; Matthew 17:23; Matthew 20:19; Matthew 26:61). But, “on the third day” cannot mean “after three days”. On the other hand, the phrase “on the third day” or “three days and nights” can be understood to mean within three days and nights. This view also fits best with the chronological order of events as given by Mark (Mark 14:1), and fits in with the fulfillment of the Feasts that point to him. Jesus died on Passover day (Friday) to fulfill the conditions of being our Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7; Leviticus 23:5–15).
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I don't see how the OT references are relevant to the passion narratives in the NT. The word "preparation" does not actually occur in Exo 12:16. It is inserted for clarity.
The Greek word "parasceue" only occurs in the passion narratives in the NT. The English word "preparation" occurs one other time but it is translated from a different Greek word.
I don't understand the relevance of your mention of the phrase "sixth hour." Took a look at some commentaries and saw two possible, credible explanations.
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I am responding to your original response, where you are concluding that the word preparation [παρασκευη] or the words "before the Sabbath" must be interpreted ONLY as a Friday.
But Exo 12:16 clearly Identifies the ANNUAL Sabbaths which also required preparation.
It appears that we have a conflict in understanding the Jewish reckoning for time.
John 19:14 places Jesus at the trial before Pilate at the sixth hour, meaning noon.
Matt 20:3; Mark 15:25; Luk 23:44 it was the third hour when they crucified Him, meaning 9 am.
The trial of Jesus occurs over multiple days, not the ±6 hours the traditional view proposes.
The church simply reinterprets the complete book of John in Roman time TO MAKE IT FIT to their narrative.
Looking at the commentaries they also acknowledge that they did so with no mandate or proof.
See Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(14) And it was the preparation of the passover.—Comp. Note on Matthew 26:17, and Excursus F: The Day of the Crucifixion of our Lord.
And about the sixth hour.—Comp. Notes on Matthew 27:45; Mark 15:25; Luke 23:44. St. John’s statement of time (twelve o’clock) seems opposed to that of St. Mark, who states that the Crucifixion took place at “the third hour” (nine o’clock); and no solution of the discrepancy is wholly satisfactory.
There are, as we may have expected, some variations of MSS., and as early as the time of Eusebius we find a suggestion that “third” should be here read for “sixth.” No competent critic would, however, for a moment admit that either in the parallel in St. Mark, or in this passage, there is even a strong presumption in favour of any reading except that of the Received text.
The common supposition that St. John adopted the Roman division of hours, and that by “sixth hour” he meant six o’clock is equally unsatisfactory. (Comp. Notes on John 1:39; John 4:6; John 4:52; John 11:9.) Even if it could be proved that this method was in use at the time, the fact would not help us; for if we read this text as meaning six o’clock, it is as much too early for the harmony as twelve o’clock is too late.
It is better, therefore, simply to admit that there is a difficulty arising from our ignorance of the exact order of events, or, it may be, of the exact words which the Evangelists wrote.
Candidly admitting this, and not attempting to explain it away, we may still note:—
(14) Behold your King!—The words are spoken in bitter irony towards the Jews, as those in the following verse and those written over the cross (John 19:19). (Comp. Note on Matthew 27:37.)
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see post # 423 I already responded to this and apologized. That does not mean I believe the table dating is correct for the reasons already outlined in previous posts and scriptures provided. That said I do not mind what anyone believes on this topic as it is one that is severely debated and even scholars are in disagreement with each other. May I ask you why are you so fixated on the day that Jesus died? I means why does it really matter in your view if he died on a Wednesday, Thursday or a Friday? There is so much debate about this. Does it really matter? These are genuine questions as I do not really see any need to be dogmatic about it in my view so trying to understand your thinking.
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You don't know if I do or not, being presumptuous about it also doesn't contribute to this feed.
Well, I thought this was obvious so that we can discuss the Passover event with fellow believers and hopefully resolve some of the obvious contradictions.
As you have stated you do not subscribe to the Thursday crucifixion, therefore being subjective, not interested in looking at scriptures that prove otherwise and remain part of the modus operandi.
Now in my experience, this is driven by either a lack of noticing the conflict and comprehending the paradox or fear to confront the problem resulting in us having to change our point of view and possibly belief system.
Clearly the mainstream doesn't understand this event and that is why the traditional interpretations simply don't work!
However, Jesus calls us to believe in Him as the scriptures say. Joh 7:38
Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
The only common ground that we have is scripture, and if our motive is to find the correct chronology we need to submit to scripture.
Trusting scripture and scripture alone reveals the alternative that brings all scriptures together without compromise or contradiction, but requires the forfeiting of preconceived ideas and trusting scripture as the only eyewitness account.
I agree that all scripture, except Matt 12:40, indicate a Friday crucifixion at first glance.
However, after closer inspection, we can see that Matt 12:40 defines the period, firstly not as hours or 24 hour days, but 12-hour blocks.
And if we then apply Matt12:40 definition back to all the other scriptures it changes how we read the other 99%.
People chose to ignore Matt12:40 or reinterpret it like the table you are referencing, it simply means you prioritize your interpretation above scripture.
Secondly, it also specifies the sequence contrary to the normal observance of the Jewish day, meaning we will start the count on days then nights.
The reversal of the sequence also confirms that this is not a simple repetition from the Hebrew calendar but an observation from an eyewitness point of view observing the event. Basically seeing what occurred and then reporting on what was observed, not repeating the definition of the Hebrew day.
Thirdly it identifies when the count should start, the time in the grave. It's only after we start the count at the ninth hour, 3 pm on the day of crucifixion that it lines up with Matt12:40.
Now if we look at your phrase you like to frequently quote "understanding Jewish reckoning for time", we can see that the partial day Jesus was crucified on, is counted as the first full day mentioned in Matt12:40 for it to satisfy all the points mentioned in the verse, even though He was only three hours in the grave.
Although I agree with you that Jesus fulfilled the FirstFruit with the resurrection occurring on the first day of the week. You haven't considered or shown how this fits in with
Ex19:1 On the third new moon after the people of Israel had gone out of the land of Egypt, on that day they came into the wilderness of Sinai.
And none of the traditional views do.
You also haven't shown how Jesus fulfilled the feast of unleavened bread and claiming your interpretation does, doesn't constitute evidence. Paul when he wrote this obviously have, but concluding that Jesus was the Passover and therefore had to have died on the 14th, puts you in direct conflict with Matt, Mark and Luke. So either you don't see it or you don't subscribe to it.
1 Corinthians 5:7 Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.
The crucifixion (3rd hour) and death (9th hour) doesn't follow the way that the Passover lambs were slaughtered on the 14th preparation day, specified in Ex12, and is confirmed though Jewish writing and historical evidence from Josephus who actually celebrated it in the temple before its destruction.
The Daily Sacrifice is required every day in the morning and in the afternoon. The Daily Sacrifice matches the crucifixion account event exactly (3rd hour) crucifixion and death (9th hour), as specified in the law.
Numb 28: 4 You shall offer one lamb in the morning and you shall offer the other lamb at twilight,
Exodus 29:38, 39 “Now this is what you shall offer on the altar: two one-year old lambs shall be offered each day, continuously. One lamb you shall offer in the morning and the other lamb at twilight;
Jesus our Passover lamb, (1 Corinthians 5:7), became this when He was captured in the early hour on the 15th, the very moment Israel was released from Bondage. That very night starting the exodus and completing the exodus by crossing the red sea occurring on the 21st, the seventh day of unleavened bread.
Your suggested interpretation of Jesus's crucifixion on the 14th, a Friday, before a weekly Sabbath, places you in direct conflict with Matthew 26:17-20, Mark 14:12-18 and Luke 22:7-20.
The six scriptures in the gospels referring to "the day of preparation" as the day of crucifixion, are Matt 27:62; Mark 15:42; Luke 23:54; John 19:14; 31; 42.
In these six scriptures, there are only five in which the “preparation day” actually falls on the crucifixion day.
Matthew 27:62 The next day, that is, after the day of Preparation, the chief priests and the Pharisees gathered before Pilate
Mark 15:42 And when evening had come, since it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath,
Luke 23:54 It was the day of Preparation, and the Sabbath was beginning.
John 19:31 Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away.
John 19:42 So because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there.
The “Preparation Day” is also referenced in the following scriptures, but are missing the phrase. see Matt 26: 17-20, Mark 14:12-17, Luk 22:7-13.
Matthew 26:17-20 Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Where will you have us prepare for you to eat the Passover?”
Mark 14:12-18 And on the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrificed the Passover lamb, his disciples said to him, “Where will you have us go and prepare for you to eat the Passover?”
Luke 22:7-20 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. So, Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.”
Jesus is clearly identified here in standing on the 14th the “Preparation Day” for Passover and asking His disciples to go and prepare for the Passover Seder, celebrated that night, the night of the 15th. The night Jesus introduces the new covenant on the very day the old was introduced.
Jesus alive and well on the 15th removes your narrative as a option to even be considered.
Hope this helps
Shalom
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Thank you for asking.
I realize in the bigger scheme of things it doesn't really matter. I am not unaware of Gods grace.
However if you see people struggle to make sense of scripture and then on top of that coming to the wrong conclusion, do you remain silent?
2 Tim 5 I am reminded of your sincere faith, a faith that dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice and now, I am sure, dwells in you as well. 6For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, 7for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God, 9 who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began, 10 and which now has been manifested through the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, 11 for which I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher, 12 which is why I suffer as I do. But I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed, and I am convinced that he is able to guard until that day what has been entrusted to me. 13 Follow the pattern of the sound words that you have heard from me, in the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. 14 By the Holy Spirit who dwells within us, guard the good deposit entrusted to you.
The Passover subject is not fully understood in the general church, and prevents people from confronting poor doctrine where they firstly place Jesus's death before the Passover, and secondly, moves Jesus's last supper to before the Passover week, both in direct contradiction to Scripture!
This not from the common folk, no this is preached from the so called experts, but they neglect scripture.
Ezekiel 34:17-19 “As for you, my flock, thus says the Lord God: Behold, I judge between sheep and sheep, between rams and male goats. Is it not enough for you to feed on the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the rest of your pasture; and to drink of clear water, that you must muddy the rest of the water with your feet? And must my sheep eat what you have trodden with your feet, and drink what you have muddied with your feet?
Yet no one is confronting this poor doctrine, specifically from scripture due to their lack of knowledge, and are we not called to expose the lie?
Eph 5:11Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
This faulty doctrine that suggest that Jesus did not eat the Passover Seder, violates our fundamental beliefs and is not opposed by the listener due to the lack of knowledge on this subject! How sad.
In this case it changes the meaning of the Lord's Day, which is not acceptable!
This is a good example of having a predefined story line which is simply manipulated into scripture. At the cost of the very definition of the new covenant.
In this case it is important to defend our holy sacraments from being reduced to historical events of minor significance!
In Christianity, the Lord's Day is very important among the year's observances and falls as part of the Easter celebration. It's one of the most anticipated annual feast celebrations in the year for Christians. If not understood correctly, it leads to the erosion of this special event!
The Lord’s Supper being the climatic start of the new covenant and a true symbol of the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus during the Passover festival. It’s best summarized in Jesus’s own words.
Jesus said to them, “For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world. I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. This is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh. So, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. John 6:33, 35, 47-48, 50-51, 53-56.
The same critics are quick to denounce that Jesus ate the Passover Seder, yet its on this Passover Seder that Jesus introduces the New Covenant, the same moment the old covenant was introduced. In both cases the people who part took in the supper are also part of the covenant!
The same night the people was liberated from Egypt, Jesus liberates us from sin. It is more important to accept the facts given by scripture, than to make up a narrative that supports our views.
In my view I have found scripture to be extremely accurate. The reason we have this disagreement is because people don't follow scripture or are incapable to follow scripture, and therefore rather chose to follow the teachings men.
Hope this helps
Shalom
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It is not being presumptuous at all. It is a statement of fact because you are trying to argue literal astronomical timing into a culture that did not use it. The Jewish reckoning of time in the days of Christ was not the same as ours.
So why is this so important to you? What does it matter what day Jesus died on in your view and how does it effect your salvation if you believe Jesus died on Thursday as opposed to Friday?
I respectfully disagree. I can bring the same argument back to you and your assumption as to your yearly application of Astronomical moon sightings and the year of Christ crucifixion as well as your application of time to Jewish reckoning of time. I have never seen a definitive argument from the scriptures in relation to the day that Jesus was crucified and I do not see that you have provided one here but for me it comes back to the question why does it matter? I do not think this is a subject to be dogmatic over in my view which is why I asked you why it is so important to you. Which I still do not know but was hoping you could explain it to me to help me to understand your view.
That is fine and that is your opinion. I have heard very good arguments for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday all with scripture and all with underlying assumptions that are questionable. Either way why does it really matter who is right and who is wrong in regards to what day Jesus died on? You have not defined in your view why you believe it is important.
Well that is your view and opinion. Others disagree with you and have shown why from the scriptures and shown that Jewish reckoning of time is not the same as we know it today.
Agreed so if someone has a misunderstanding of the scriptures are they lost in your view? What about Christs own disciples at His death they were all disappointed as they thought he had come as a conquering king to restore Israel mixing up the first coming with the second. Does that mean they are all lost?
Why is it important to find the correct chronology in your view. This is a question you still have not answered that I have asked you earlier but still have not received an answer for. I do not see a contradiction of scripture as every view for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday is based on underlying assumptions which are questionable. For me personally I have my views as stated in this OP and supporting scriptures just as you and other have but I accept others have and are entitled to their view. I do not see it as a major issue that effects someones salvation so to be it is not that important. Do you see it differently?
Well for me personally I do not see Matthew 12:40 as a problem by understanding Jewish reckoning of time as shown in other supporting scriptures showing that a part of a day is considered a full day and day/night is included in this reckoning of time. Even Jesus own words demonstrated this when we consider that he was to rise on or in "the third day". That being the case it cannot mean full night and day but full three days inclusive of nights as a period of time.
There is a lot of assumptions in this statement in my view. Firstly your assuming that days and nights in Matthew 12:40 is being defined as separate 12 hour block rather than a day and a night making up one day and that there is no Jewish reckoning of time as already shown in the scriptures that show that for the Jews part days are considered full days. So in my view your just pitting one interpretation over another both of which are supported by scripture with the majority of scripture as you just agreed supporting a Friday crucifixion.
Once again this is assuming that day and night is not simply referring to a full day and Jewish reckoning of time is not being applied as already shown through the scriptures. There is nothing in the scripture in my view stating a literal counting of time. If that was the case you would have to be consistent and argue for a full literal 72hr. We already agree and know that the scriptures also do not support this view.
In my view this is simply another assumption as it says no where in the scripture that time starts in the grave and that the heart of the earth represents the grave. There is evidence that the heart of the earth here is representative of Jerusalem (source) and the last three days and nights Jesus spent there before His resurrection. The scripture says "heart of the earth" making comparison to Jonah in the whale. Middle of the earth can have a number of meanings from being in the midst of the inhabited earth and uninhabited ground. Also you may note Jesus was buried in a sepulcher above ground not in the earth. Likewise a comparison can be drawn with Jesus when he says in Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to show to his disciples, how that he must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. So once again we are not talking literal days here but a time period in Jewish reckoning of time. Jesus here was taken prisoner on Thursday night (Friday bible time), crucified Friday afternoon (Day1) in the grave before Sabbath and rested the Sabbath (day 2) and rose again somewhere between Saturday night (Sunday) and early Sunday morning (day 3).
For me the difference between our views is that I do not mind what day Jesus was Crucified and I accept others may have a differing viewpoint but that is ok because I do not see it as important as effecting my salvation not being sure what day Jesus died on. What is important to me is that he rose from the dead and has given those who believe and follow Him the victory over sin and death. I lean towards a Friday crucifixion because of the timing of fulfillment of the annual Feast days already shown in another table already provided here..
Table 1 timing of the Feasts of Passover/Unleavened bread and First fruits with Christs death and resurrection.
There is no conflict of the scriptures with Exodus 12. I am assuming your referring to Exodus 12:1-12 and in particular Exodus 12:6 that says [6], And you shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening (עֶרֶב (ʻereb | H6153). You may want to do a little more research here. The Hebrew word ereb has a number of meanings many scriptures of course meaning "sunset" where as you might note below from the BDB that application to ereb in Exodus 12:6 is dual in phrase meaning "between two evenings" (see below)
Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon, Unabridged - H6153
H6153. ereb
עֶ֫רֶב131 noun [masculine] 1Sam 20:5 strike out הַשְּׁלִישִׁית see We Dr and others] (sun)set, evening; — absolute ׳ע 2Kin 2:16 +, עָ֑רֶב Exod 12:18 +; construct עֶרֶב Prov 7:9; dual עַרְבַּיִם Exod 30:8 4t., בָּ֑יִם- 12:16 5t. (all P); —
a. evening, originally sunset, and hence perhaps ע ׳לְעֵת at the time of sunset Gen 8:11 (J), 24:11 (J; || הַשֹּׁאֲבֹת צֵאת לְעֵת), 2Sam 11:2; Isa 17:14 and (of the day of ׳י) Zech 14:7, הָע ׳עֵת Josh 8:29 (JE) ; usually ׳ע alone = time of sunset, evening: ׳בָּע in the evening Gen 19:1 (J), 29:23 (E), Exod 12:18 (P), Deut 16:6 (+ כְּבוֺא שֶׁמֶשׁ), 1Kin 22:35 (compare || 2Chr 18:34 where + הַשֶּׁמֶשׁ בּוֺא לְעֵת) + 20 t. + ׳בָּע(ֿ)בָּע13:11 (twice in verse) = every evening; ׳לָע at evening only late: 1Chr 16:40; 23:30; 2Chr 2:3; Ezra 3:3; Psa 59:7; 59:15; 90:6; Eccl 11:6 ; ע ׳לִפְנוֺת at the turn of evening Gen 24:63 (J), Deut 23:12; ׳ע as adverb accusative Exod 16:6 (P), Psa 55:18; as marking duration of impurity, in phrase ׳עַדהָֿע Lev 11:24 30t. P + 22:6 (H); of Day of Atonement ׳עַדעֿ ׳מֵע 23:32 (P).
b. dual in phrase (only P) הָעַרְבַּיִם בֵּין between the two evenings, (see Thes [various views fully given]; otherwise Di Exod 12:6; on form as possibly only expanded plural see Ges§ 88c), 12:6; 16:12; 29:39, 41; 30:8; Lev 23:5; Num 9:3, 5, 11; 28:4, 8 .
c. other phrases are: ע ׳צִלְלֵי Jer 6:4 (distinguished from צָהֳרָ֑יִם and לָ֑יְלָה 6:5), (הָ)ע ׳מִנְחַה 2Kin 16:15; Ezra 9:4-5, Psa 141:2; Dan 9:21 ; ע ׳זְאֵבֵי see I. זְאֵב; for all combinations with בֹּקֶר morning, see ׳ב
1d, e. 2. (late poetry) = night, עָ֑רֶב Job 7:4; compare יוֺם בְּעֶרֶב בְּנֶשֶׁף Prov 7:9 (|| וִאֲפֵלָה לַיְלָה בְּאִישׁוֺן).
c. other phrases are: ע ׳צִלְלֵי Jer 6:4 (distinguished from צָהֳרָ֑יִם and לָ֑יְלָה 6:5), (הָ)ע ׳מִנְחַה 2Kin 16:15; Ezra 9:4-5, Psa 141:2; Dan 9:21 ; ע ׳זְאֵבֵי see I. זְאֵב; for all combinations with בֹּקֶר morning, see ׳ב
1d, e. 2. (late poetry) = night, עָ֑רֶב Job 7:4; compare יוֺם בְּעֶרֶב בְּנֶשֶׁף Prov 7:9 (|| וִאֲפֵלָה לַיְלָה בְּאִישׁוֺן).
If you think about it this makes sense as it would be impossible for all the Passover sacrifices to be made and completed before sunset proper when the Feast of Passover was to start.
The evening and morning sacrifices (continual burnt offerings) of the old covenant laws for remission of sins are not references to the Passover.
No it has me in agreement with the timing of the Feast days as shown through the scriptures in Numbers 28:16-25; Exodus 12:2-11; Leviticus 23:5; Matthew 26:20; Matthew 27:61; Mark 14:17; Mark 15:42-57; Luke 22:14; Luke 23:54:56 and John 13:1; John 19:14; John 19:31-42. Perhaps it is your interpretation of those scripture that is the problem.
Your mixing up the rehearsal or preparation feast with the Feast proper that did not start until the evening of 15th Nissan.
Hope this is helpful.
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Thanks, I appreciate your honesty. I am of the view that these types of discussions can be a little difficult as most of the scholars are not even in agreement in regards to this topic while of course everyone thinks that their view is the only correct one. That said I do not really mind if others have a view that application of Christs death and resurrection is on a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday as it is not a salvation issue. The most important thing is the resurrection of Jesus here and His victory over sin and death on our behalf and what these Feasts days pointed to in both the old covenant laws for remission of sins through blood atonement in the Levitical Priesthood and Sanctuary service and the prophetic roles in pointing to the coming of Messiah Jesus and the introduction of Gods new covenant promise to all those who believe Gods' Word. I lean towards a Friday crucifixion because my personal study of the Feasts days at the moment show me that this is a best fit. I was going to post more and more scripture in support of this as I have not really started here but think that perhaps it may be wasting each others time if we have set views. That said I am happy to post more out of common interest but not for the sake of debate as I do not think our salvation is determined on what day Jesus died therefore the discussion would not be an edifying one from reading some of the responses in this thread already.
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In interpreting them all the same you are missing the following was not the crucifixion day.
Matthew 26:17-20 Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Where will you have us prepare for you to eat the Passover?”
Mark 14:12-18 And on the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrificed the Passover lamb, his disciples said to him, “Where will you have us go and prepare for you to eat the Passover?”
Luke 22:7-20 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread, on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. So, Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it.”
These scripture placing Him alive and well on the 15th.
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There is no contradiction here and I was not missing anything. You may want to consider that although not the same Feast type the Feast of Unleavened bread had a preparation day before the Feast started to remove all leaven from the house. The first day of Unleavened bread in the scriptures you have provided is referring to the preparation. See Table 1 in post # 431 linked. Your view in interpretation of the scriptures you have provided in in contradiction with the gospel of John. John 18:28 says: “Then the Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness the Jews did not enter the palace; they wanted to be able to eat the Passover.” John 19:14 says that the day during which Jesus was crucified was only the “Preparation [day] of Passover Week.” By John’s reckoning, Jesus ate the Last Supper meal one day earlier than the Jews ate the Passover meal. If you can call Jesus eating the last supper eating the Passover is debatable as there was no signs in the scriptures of them eating the paschal lamb there or remembering Egypt. Jesus was captured and taken prisoner the same night.
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It seems to me that John 19:14 is the 6th hour of the night. So that would be midnight.
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Every occurrence of "parasceue" in the NT occurs only in the passion narrative. All 5 of them. Do you know of any verses anywhere, in the entire Bible, which identify either of the 2 "Holy Convocations" of the first and seventh days "of "Unleavened Bread" as a Sabbath? I have checked multiple times the answer is no.
The ULB convocations differ from the weekly sabbath in that the preparing and cooking of food is specifically permitted, Exodus 12:16. Since that is true 1-7 ULB does not require a day of preparation.
The Greek word "paraskeue" only occurs five times in the NT, It means preparation, The English word "Preparation" occurs only one time outside the passion narratives but it translates a different Greek word, NOT parasceue. The English word "prepare" occurs several times in the NT but they all translate a different Greek word, NOT "parasceue." I suggest you find one of the many online, parsed, interlinear Greek/English NTs, to verify.
Therefore all 4 gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on Friday. Evidence previously provided.
The unsupported opinion of one scholar is not compelling. Old laptop caught Covid and died, I don't have my resources, at the moment, when I get this new one fully operational, I will provide any resources you need, since you are desperately trying refute them with your mistaken reference to the verb "prepare" as meaning the same thing as the noun "preparation.".
Once again all the occurrences of "prepare" are NOT "parasceue." They have no bearing on any of the 5 only occurrences of "parasceue," which FYI is pronounced "para-skev-eh." I learned that when I learned to speak Greek in Germany 3 decades+ ago.
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In the passion narratives the first day of Unleavened bread coincides with the Passover which is also the weekly Sabbath.
See previous comment.
See comment on Matt 26:17-20, above.
All these vss. place Jesus' crucifixion on the day of preparation i.e. the day before the Sabbath also the Passover.
(Mat 27:62) Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] [Sabbath/1 ULB]
(Luk 23:54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] and the sabbath drew on.
(Mat 27:62) Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] [Sabbath/1 ULB] the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,
(Mat 27:63) Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, after three days I will rise again.
(Luk 23:54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] and the sabbath drew on.
(Joh 19:14) And it was the preparation [παρασκευὴ] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
(Joh 19:31) The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
(Joh 19:42) There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation [παρασκευὴ] day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.
(Luk 23:54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] and the sabbath drew on.
(Mat 27:62) Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] [Sabbath/1 ULB] the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,
(Mat 27:63) Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, after three days I will rise again.
(Luk 23:54) And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] and the sabbath drew on.
(Joh 19:14) And it was the preparation [παρασκευὴ] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
(Joh 19:31) The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευὴ] that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
(Joh 19:42) There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation [παρασκευὴ] day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.
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Above I suggested that you consult a parsed, interlinear, Greek NT so that you might know that all those "prepare" you thought were the same as "parasceue/preparation" are in fact a completely different word. Here is the first occurrence of "prepare" in the NT.
(Mat 3:3) For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, prepare [ἑτοιμάζω/etoimazo] ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Here is a link to parsed Gk NT check me out see if I am correct or not.Link: Free online Greek New Testament, interlinear, parsed and per word translation (abarim-publications.com)
(Mat 26:17) Now on the first day of the feast of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and said, “Where do you want us to prepare [ἑτοιμάσωμέν] for you to eat the Passover?”
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