Blasphemous Thoughts -- do you ever feel like you choose to think them?

I refer you to my comment in October....

Mari17 said:

what if you were to stop being afraid of the thoughts? Not that you want them, of course, but what if you stop acting afraid of them intruding into your life, and just live your life the way you feel you should no matter what thoughts are thrown at you?

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Are you currently working with a therapist, or in any other kind of active treatment?

How come after 7 yrs of blasphemous thoughts against the HS they still have not lost there power.........I think them first thing when I get up(that is sexual one against the HS) and it's that last thing I think going to bed! Iv tried pills,ERP, ignoring them,staying busy, and a host of other things only to sink into this blasphemous nonsense even more.........why am I sooooooo obsessed........you see now I have become addicted to thinking this way constantly (against my will that is).…..…..now because of this I have lost all disire to read my Bible and even pray! Obviously I know we walk by faith and not sight but this is different! Theses thoughts because of there 24/7 persistence has changed me......and for the worse I might add..,,....Iv totally lost all faith and at this point I don't care.........i try to just live what life I got left while 24/7 I'm possessed by the spirit of blasphemy...,.....

Hi Zach,

You mentioned you had some self deliverance in the past, Im interested to know how that went, the procedures, etc. Would be great to discuss it.
I can share some of my experiences with blasphemous thoughts, etc and how I deal with it.

I still get bad thoughts but only 15% compared to the 90% bad thoughts i used to get, and im no longer consumed with fear, anxiety and condemnation. My email address is eltontitus@yahoo.com if u want to pop me an email. Looking forward to hearing from you

My dear friend,fear not.

I too have OCD but also Autism and ADHD.I used to suffer from terrible blasphemous thoughts,thoughts so bad that I can’t even explain them to the most trusted person.And I know your sorrows,I went through them for years,however the Lord allowed me to become stronger and learn to ignore and resist them.Please know you don’t choose to think them,because if you did,you wouldn’t be worried about them,you’d simply keep thinking them and have no concern over them,but in your case that’s not evident.Know that the Almighty Lord Jesus knows that you don’t want these thoughts,and he surely knows you don’t think them on purpose.They may be nasty
,disgusting,and blasphemous,but I strongly encourage you to trust the Lord and in due time he will allow you yo have a will of solid holy iron to ignore the Intrusive thoughts.

We had a discussion about this earlier in this thread, and I think your response is a great philosophy for handling the thoughts!

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Me:
It sounds like these thoughts bother you a lot. Since they are disturbing and not thoughts you want, that's understandable. But what if you were to stop being afraid of the thoughts? Not that you want them, of course, but what if you stop acting afraid of them intruding into your life, and just live your life the way you feel you should no matter what thoughts are thrown at you?

You:
Honestly that's where I'm at at the moment I think our brains can get hooked on certain things and it seems to be all at once to think about and although when the thoughts come it feels like me thinking them deliberately out of a habit deep down I know they're just thoughts even when I have urges to speak them and sometimes do out of compulsion I know it's not my heart so lately I have just been living my life and doing what I do regardless of the thoughts one thing I have to do is try to get past the fear meaning when the thoughts come that I just keep doing what I do and and if they come 100 million times in 2 minutes then so be it let the worst come and just keep living life.
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Don't get discouraged, brother; there is hope. Keep following God, keep living your life, and keep ignoring the thoughts. Some of us have physical handicaps, some have mental, but Jesus gives us grace for our weaknesses. Our job is to rest in Him, trusting in His grace, and walk toward Him no matter what obstacles try to distract us. In your weakness He is strong!

I tried to avoid reading the words Holy Spirit all together or anything related due to the fact that immediately my mind starts screaming all types of profanity and it's as if it's coming from me!!!!!! the end result is I have a massive anxiety attack and become totally detached from myself!!!!! it is horrible!!!! Even though I allow them to come and try to ignore them and continue about my day it ruins my whole day! How to untrain my mind from the bad habits I don't know!

zachariahjosephturner said:

I tried to avoid reading the words Holy Spirit all together or anything related due to the fact that immediately my mind starts screaming all types of profanity and it's as if it's coming from me!!!!!! the end result is I have a massive anxiety attack and become totally detached from myself!!!!! it is horrible!!!! Even though I allow them to come and try to ignore them and continue about my day it ruins my whole day! How to untrain my mind from the bad habits I don't know!

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If the thoughts are meaningless and you are ignoring them, why do you feel the need to avoid reading things related to the Holy Spirit?

Mari17 said:

If the thoughts are meaningless and you are ignoring them, why do you feel the need to avoid reading things related to the Holy Spirit?

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Because unfortunately those are things that trigger my mind to go all to pieces and ruin my entire day to where I have to take an Ativan and just sit as my mind is being raped beyond My control

zachariahjosephturner said:

Because unfortunately those are things that trigger my mind to go all to pieces and ruin my entire day to where I have to take an Ativan and just sit as my mind is being raped beyond My control

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Yes, triggers can be so hard to deal with, can't they? Are you still in therapy for your OCD?

Mari17 said:

Yes, triggers can be so hard to deal with, can't they? Are you still in therapy for your OCD?

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Honestly know nothing seems to help after 7 years it's as if these things I've mentioned before have become a very strong habit as much as I try to just go on and pretend they're not there or even ignore them and treat them as little ants crawling on the floor nothing works I don't know why but the worst part is feeling like you want them they're constantly that's what makes it hard I guess your brain tricks you into feeling like you want them and that you desire them and when you think them you feel great that's what makes it confusing

zachariahjosephturner said:

Honestly know nothing seems to help after 7 years it's as if these things I've mentioned before have become a very strong habit as much as I try to just go on and pretend they're not there or even ignore them and treat them as little ants crawling on the floor nothing works I don't know why but the worst part is feeling like you want them they're constantly that's what makes it hard I guess your brain tricks you into feeling like you want them and that you desire them and when you think them you feel great that's what makes it confusing

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I know it's upsetting to have them, but it doesn't matter much whether or not they're there. What matters is that you keep living your life, and NOT avoiding the things OCD is telling you to, even if they're triggering. That can be really hard to do, so it helps to take it in small steps. Some people use OCD therapists to help guide them in this process, but you can do it on your own if you're willing to put in the work. (Well, it's work either way, but it's worth it!)

Job405 said:

I experience this, so I can relate. When I am stuck in a storm of thoughts I sometimes think the bad thoughts compulsively or impulsively, but not from my heart ever.

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me too i’m scared is this unforgivable

ImAFighter said:

me too i’m scared is this unforgivable

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Have you been able to get any help for your OCD?

gcook said:

Hi,

I have struggled with blasphemous thoughts regarding the Holy Spirit, off and on for several years. It is particularly bad right now. I've begun medication and taken steps to just ignore the thoughts and have seen some success with that, but sometimes I fail. What bothers me the most now is that sometimes it feels like I "choose" to think a blasphemous thought, and it's really hard to discern whether it's OCD or me. When it happens I'm generally in the midst of an OCD storm of thoughts of increasing magnitude, and countering them in my heart or verbally, and for whatever reason I suddenly think "more fully" such a thought in a way that feels very intentional. Perhaps just to be rebellious, or think the opposite of what I'm trying to say, just because I'm not supposed to. Does anyone else experience this or have any insight as to what is going on and whether this specific aspect is a component of OCD?

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hello gcook!

Blessings of the lord Jesus Christ be unto you!

I too have suffered the horrible suffering of blasphemous thoughts too.years ago I did and it tore me in half when they intruded into my mind,I was so ashamed,embarrassed,and scared.But I want to tell you something the Lord has done for me since,I’ve become calloused to them,they barely enter into my mind anymore and when they do I’m strengthened to it so it so much that they barely bother me.What I want you to remember is this,if you truly are saved,the Lord will finish what he started and you can never be lost.Remain in him,trust in him,LOVE him,and he will continue his work within you,im positive if you are born again,you too will be sanctified to strength against them!

Also,Had not the Lord spoken every blasphemy shall be forgiven? (Matthew 12:31)

zachariahjosephturner said:

How come after 7 yrs of blasphemous thoughts against the HS they still have not lost there power.........I think them first thing when I get up(that is sexual one against the HS) and it's that last thing I think going to bed! Iv tried pills,ERP, ignoring them,staying busy, and a host of other things only to sink into this blasphemous nonsense even more.........why am I sooooooo obsessed........you see now I have become addicted to thinking this way constantly (against my will that is).…..…..now because of this I have lost all disire to read my Bible and even pray! Obviously I know we walk by faith and not sight but this is different! Theses thoughts because of there 24/7 persistence has changed me......and for the worse I might add..,,....Iv totally lost all faith and at this point I don't care.........i try to just live what life I got left while 24/7 I'm possessed by the spirit of blasphemy...,.....

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Hey Zachariah.
I can relate. I think its a combination of narcissism and OCD (for me at least) caused by letting demonic spirits in through sin.
Have you tried deliverance?
God bless you

gcook said:

Hi,

I have struggled with blasphemous thoughts regarding the Holy Spirit, off and on for several years. It is particularly bad right now. I've begun medication and taken steps to just ignore the thoughts and have seen some success with that, but sometimes I fail. What bothers me the most now is that sometimes it feels like I "choose" to think a blasphemous thought, and it's really hard to discern whether it's OCD or me. When it happens I'm generally in the midst of an OCD storm of thoughts of increasing magnitude, and countering them in my heart or verbally, and for whatever reason I suddenly think "more fully" such a thought in a way that feels very intentional. Perhaps just to be rebellious, or think the opposite of what I'm trying to say, just because I'm not supposed to. Does anyone else experience this or have any insight as to what is going on and whether this specific aspect is a component of OCD?

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Ideal with blasphemes thoughts I understand--I feel empty inside and like if God is punishing me but then I come back with affirmations realize that I make mistakes or I'm imperfect and I can't be a perfectionist although I struggle with it expecting God for me to be perfect then I realize --I know it's a struggle I say I'm not a mistake--deal with fear of people paranoia at times-- I have to use the scripture say-- perfect love cast out all fear plus I do affirmations with scripture or just say I'm not a mistake I can achieve stuff like that--I do take medication I just started really taking this new medication to help me with my chemical imbalance Plus to help with the thoughts takes a little time cuz I just started not too long ago that's all for now I'll keep you in prayer keep me in prayer.

See my issue! It’s similar to yours.