Biden was warned of the collapse in Afghanistan - did not listen to the experts

hislegacy said:

You have hit the nail on the head, as evidenced by the actions of Russia, China and North Korea since the Biden debacle in Afghanistan.

To wit:

Russia continues to amass new troops near Ukraine's border despite Biden urging Putin to de-escalate tensions - CNNPolitics

China flies 19 nuke jets into Taiwan air space for 'WW3 invasion' war games

North Korea fires missiles again amid unusual flurry of tests

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These countries do what they want regardless who's in office. I have to admit that North Korea went quite after killing a bunch of their people. But after a few months. They were already starting on their missiles building .

hislegacy said:

You have hit the nail on the head, as evidenced by the actions of Russia, China and North Korea since the Biden debacle in Afghanistan.

To wit:

Russia continues to amass new troops near Ukraine's border despite Biden urging Putin to de-escalate tensions - CNNPolitics

China flies 19 nuke jets into Taiwan air space for 'WW3 invasion' war games

North Korea fires missiles again amid unusual flurry of tests

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Russia could care less about your perception.

hislegacy said:

They didn’t while President Trump was in office.

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You keep dreaming that. Speaking of Trump, he would like for you to send some money for all the lawyers fees due to all of his many crimes about to hit him. Show some love, support a 'billionaire'

hislegacy said:

They didn’t while President Trump was in office.

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LOL. What a sad little world….

You have no links, no proofs so here go back to a sycophantic gesture towards EX-President Trump.

hislegacy said:

You want links proving something did not happen?

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You said it never happened, and you said it with authority. Apparently it is just your opinion considering you cannot prove your accusation.

I have seen numerous articles proving N Korea launched missiles under the Trump administration, but I don't need anything from you to prove otherwise because you'd be wrong.

hislegacy said:

I do not have the unique ability to prove something never happened.

Also - it was not an accusation - it was a statement.

If you have 'numerous article' then please - post them. Be sure to include all three countries we are speaking of. You would win your point hands down.

Here I'll do your work for you:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/14/timeline-of-north-korea-missile-launches-in-trump-first-year.html

Notice it was in his first year -

Here is Trumps second year:

North Korea announces end to missile testing as Trump cites 'big progress'

Where North Korea ends its missile testing.

Here is where it restarted

Biden strategy on North Korea under pressure over missile launches

Oh, ouch that hurt the Biden defense initiative!

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Notice, it went from "They didn’t while President Trump was in office." to "Notice it was in his first year"
to "Here is where it restarted"

You go from 'full denial' to 'ya, but' so smoothly.

List of North Korean missile tests - Wikipedia

YOU MISSED ALL OF 2019 Why am I not surprised?

New North Korea Concerns Flare as Trump’s Signature Diplomacy Wilts (Published 2019)
2019 missile test

Some questions for naysayers of President Biden's withdrawal, if you were the decision maker:

• When would you withdraw? How many more months/years?
• How many more tax dollars would you be willing to commit?
• How many more troops' lives would you be willing to risk?
• What would you do to prevent collapse, when you decided to pull the plug?

hislegacy said:

Be sure to include all three countries we are speaking of. You would win your point hands down.

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As you wrote "They didn’t while President Trump was in office." in reference to all the items listed, your comment covered all items. I disproved your comment simply by disproving the N Korea one.

disciple Clint said:

Wrong. He left people behind including citizens of the United States.

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I’m sure the headlines if Biden had “ordered all Americans out of Afghanistan” wouldn’t have been made into evidence of him being a dictatorial Chief Executive, here and around the intrawebs, no not at all.
Pfft.

Fact Check published an article outlining the action of both the Trump and Biden administrations.

Timeline of U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan - FactCheck.org

Biden delayed withdrawals for several months after Trump's target date, something which Trump, now safely on the sidelines, was quick to condemn. When he did act and the Taliban took over the country, the criticism continued.

I don't think it would ever have been possible to exit quickly and painlessly, no matter who was at the helm (four presidents presided over the war in Afghanistan.) It took courage to end it, and waiting until 2022, 2024, 2026, or 2028 wouldn't have made it any better.

I think about the money wasted on a fool's errand. I think especially about my nephew, in the Navy Seabee reserves, who spent a year over there rebuilding their roads and bridges, infrastructure we probably had a part in destroying during the war.

What is wrong with us? Our own infrastructure was crumbling, and we were spending trillions destroying and rebuilding other countries'.

It had to be ended, and it was ended. The Americans who stayed until it was too late were probably far too overly optimistic--and more knowledgeable than the rest of us about how completely unrealistic their optimism was.

durangodawood said:

Or they could see us as disentangling from uselessly fighting 20 year insurgencies in order to focus on actual threats to the republic.

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Watch the news and see what they think, Biden has now given Russia permission to make a "limited" incursion into the Ukraine.

JustOneWay said:

The attempt to make this Benghazi II for Biden is apparent, and pathetic. The consensus is that a withdraw from Afghanistan was inevitable, and something always goes wrong. Why didn't Trump withdraw during his four years? I suspect he did not want to have the bad PR which Biden is now taking from partisans like you. This 'crisis' is manufactured outrage, shallow and partisan. We see it for what it is.

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Trump is not stupid, Biden on the other hand could not have screwed this up more if he tried.

Pommer said:

I’m sure the headlines if Biden had “ordered all Americans out of Afghanistan” wouldn’t have been made into evidence of him being a dictatorial Chief Executive, here and around the intrawebs, no not at all.
Pfft.

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I hope that is not the best excuse you could come up with

disciple Clint said:

Trump is not stupid, Biden on the other hand could not have screwed this up more if he tried.

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Trump and you said he shut down N. Korea's missiles, while the rest of us know the facts are not on either of your sides. Ignorance or lying? That is what I want to know. Trump talked about ending wars, and Biden ended one. I would have thought you'd be more grateful? I guess not.

JustOneWay said:

Trump and you said he shut down N. Korea's missiles, while the rest of us know the facts are not on either of your sides. Ignorance or lying? That is what I want to know. Trump talked about ending wars, and Biden ended one. I would have thought you'd be more grateful? I guess not.

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Biden did not end a war. There had not been an American service member killed for quite some time until Biden got 13 killed because he is foolish and did not accept what his military advisors clearly told him. You do not need to accept what I have said, educate yourself, find out what the facts are, at the very least read or watch the news then you will not make the mistakes you seem to make over and over. You are in no position to attempt to judge someone else.