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Panic from false teaching.

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Hi everyone

I’ve been doing some researching,and upon coming up on a theology that I have embraced that many claim is false and now I’m in a panic.

So the thing that I’ve believed is “Lordship salvation,which teaches someone must submit to Jesus completely and repent From sin and change their lives” which is taught by reformed theologians compared to the opposite which is “a person is so thankful for their sins from being forgiven that they change their ways and follow Jesus”

what I’m afraid of is I’ve committed apostasy,believing a false teaching.So I’m asking how I can’t repent of it.I guess the problem for awhile has been me lacking a grace and me thinking I’ve been needing to do something more.

But what concerns me deeply,is that the “Free grace” family I was raised in and when I started believing for real in Jesus at 15,I embraced the theology my family holds,but I guess I’ve misinterpreted Repentance,as changing instead of turning.

I’m even more concerned because I don’t feel any conviction nor sorrow over sins of the past.So now I’m worried I may not be saved at all and even more worried I’ve committed apostasy and believing a false doctrine.

Like I’ve asked before,what theology is correct,because as I was reading,I had a thought pass that said “which one is right,this is so confusing,I should just give up” but I refused that thought.I even more worry about it because I’m scared of committing it,I don’t want to give up,but I’m afraid I already have.I’m even more scared because I’m afraid I’m an atheist who “thinks the Bible is mind control or know the secrets of how they manipulate you” which is a terrible thought I don’t want to ever think again.
And an even scarier thought came to mind saying “I’m tired of repenting”

I even read on a site called salvationcall.com
That a heretic is an apostate and never forgivable.And now I’m so scared that at 19 I’m an apostate(I almost said agnostic which is scaring me even more),or a heretic.
It’s even scarier because I was raised in a “Free grace” family but still had sin,I committed the sin of masturbation,inappropriate contentography,coarse jesting,cussing,lusting,and serving the Lord out of selfish motives,but I had taken the Lords supper while still in sin,which makes me remember Hebrews 6:4-6, the Orr about tasting the heavenly gift,but when the pandemic hit,my family stopped going to church to stay safe (the church we went to,I never heard of repentance and it welcomed a lesbian couple) which caused me concern.I began to take biblical advice from GotQuestions and I believe I fell into believing reformed doctrines and I’m now scared after being deceived for a year I’m a heretic and apostate,and I’m suffering rebellious thoughts and Intrusive thoughts that I’m fighting.I’m very very scared and worried.
 
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Hi everyone

I’ve been doing some researching,and upon coming up on a theology that I have embraced that many claim is false and now I’m in a panic.

So the thing that I’ve believed is “Lordship salvation,which teaches someone must submit to Jesus completely and repent From sin and change their lives” which is taught by reformed theologians compared to the opposite which is “a person is so thankful for their sins from being forgiven that they change their ways and follow Jesus”

what I’m afraid of is I’ve committed apostasy,believing a false teaching.So I’m asking how I can’t repent of it.I guess the problem for awhile has been me lacking a grace and me thinking I’ve been needing to do something more.

But what concerns me deeply,is that the “Free grace” family I was raised in and when I started believing for real in Jesus at 15,I embraced the theology my family holds,but I guess I’ve misinterpreted Repentance,as changing instead of turning.

I’m even more concerned because I don’t feel any conviction nor sorrow over sins of the past.So now I’m worried I may not be saved at all and even more worried I’ve committed apostasy and believing a false doctrine.

Like I’ve asked before,what theology is correct,because as I was reading,I had a thought pass that said “which one is right,this is so confusing,I should just give up” but I refused that thought

Can anyone offer advice

We grow in grace and in knowledge as we go on in Him. We don't get there all at once! It takes time and it's a process. You can trust God! Speak to Him about these things. We often have things in our own lives, which we find confusing and difficult to understand. Let God be God and do the things for you which you feel that you cannot do for your self. It's a journey, but He is the one with the map, trust in Him and He will get you there!
 
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So the thing that I’ve believed is “Lordship salvation,which teaches someone must submit to Jesus completely and repent From sin and change their lives” which is taught by reformed theologians compared to the opposite which is “a person is so thankful for their sins from being forgiven that they change their ways and follow Jesus”

I embraced the theology my family holds,but I guess I’ve misinterpreted Repentance,as changing instead of turning.

I'm confused. What exactly is the difference?

2 Timothy 2:24-25; Acts 5:31; Acts 11:18; Romans 2:4 2 Peter 3:9

Only God can grant repentance. It's the goodness of God which leads us to repentance, and not we ourselves which accomplish it.

Repentance in the Greek is, metanoia.

meta - from which we get metamorphosis

Defintion: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man, reversal (of one's decision)

Acts 2:38; Acts 3:19

Repent and return, that your sins may be wiped out, meaning: have a change of heart and return to the Lord. The example is the prodigal son. He lives a wild life and wastes his inheritance, and while he is yet in that life, he realizes it wasn't a good way to live and he would be better off going back home to Dad.

The realization and desire to do something different is repentance; the act of actually going home, is the return. They go hand-in-hand.

Repent (and return), be baptized, and then receive the Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

Without the Spirit of God, we are not of God, we are none of His. We are still children of the devil.

1 John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."

Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

1 Corinthians 5:17 "And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins."

If you are not Christ's, and Christ is not living in you, you are still in sin, and the wages of sin is death. Hence, Repent, Be Baptized and RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT.

If you are still sinning and feel no conviction or guilt, then pray for the goodness of God to lead you to repentance. If you committed past sins and are no longer walking in that way, there's no need to feel conviction or guilt anymore if you asked for forgiveness and moved on and have stopped that behavior.

To hold on to guilt and conviction over a past sin, despite asking forgiveness, is akin to faithlessness. You don't believe that God has actually forgiven you when he has. As I like to say: forgiving others is easy, forgiving ourselves is hard.

Repentance is a life long process. We will find out that something was a false teaching; that we were deceived, lied to and that's not our fault. Being deceived is not apostasy, rebellion is. If you know the truth and rebel against the truth, that's apostasy.
 
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How can I be sure he’ll hear me?
It sounds like you fear God.(Proverbs 1:7) If you fear Him, He hears your prayers. (Jeremiah 33:3, Jeremiah 29:12-13, Isaiah 65:24, Psalm 66:17-20, Matthew 6:8, Matthew 6:9-13, Luke 11:9-13, John 9:31, Romans 8:26-7, James 5:13-15) He knows all your worries and your fears. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and don't trust your own understanding. Think about Him all the time, and trust Him to lead you.(Proverbs 3:5-6, Ephesians 1:11)

Philippians 4:6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
 
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It sounds like you fear God.(Proverbs 1:7) If you fear Him, He hears your prayers. (Jeremiah 33:3, Jeremiah 29:12-13, Isaiah 65:24, Psalm 66:17-20, Matthew 6:8, Matthew 6:9-13, Luke 11:9-13, John 9:31, Romans 8:26-7, James 5:13-15) He knows all your worries and your fears. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and don't trust your own understanding. Think about Him all the time, and trust Him to lead you.(Proverbs 3:5-6, Ephesians 1:11)

Philippians 4:6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
It’s just that I’m crystal clear on the fate of unbelievers and I don’t want to be one,I do respect him deeply,I don’t dare speak anything against him,and I respect his power
 
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We are all created by God to have free will. Do you believe that? We are free to choose to give our lives to God and ask Him to deliver us from all that we fear, or whatever troubles us.
Yes
 
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God is greater than any of the things than you are afraid of, rest in Him and know that He is God and He is your sheild against all things.

After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward (Genesis 15:1)

I would suggest that He is also your exceeding great reward as well. He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him.

But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. (Hebrews 11:6)
 
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Hi everyone

I’ve been doing some researching,and upon coming up on a theology that I have embraced that many claim is false and now I’m in a panic.

So the thing that I’ve believed is “Lordship salvation,which teaches someone must submit to Jesus completely and repent From sin and change their lives” which is taught by reformed theologians compared to the opposite which is “a person is so thankful for their sins from being forgiven that they change their ways and follow Jesus”

what I’m afraid of is I’ve committed apostasy,believing a false teaching.So I’m asking how I can’t repent of it.I guess the problem for awhile has been me lacking a grace and me thinking I’ve been needing to do something more.

But what concerns me deeply,is that the “Free grace” family I was raised in and when I started believing for real in Jesus at 15,I embraced the theology my family holds,but I guess I’ve misinterpreted Repentance,as changing instead of turning.

I’m even more concerned because I don’t feel any conviction nor sorrow over sins of the past.So now I’m worried I may not be saved at all and even more worried I’ve committed apostasy and believing a false doctrine.

Like I’ve asked before,what theology is correct,because as I was reading,I had a thought pass that said “which one is right,this is so confusing,I should just give up” but I refused that thought.I even more worry about it because I’m scared of committing it,I don’t want to give up,but I’m afraid I already have.I’m even more scared because I’m afraid I’m an atheist who “thinks the Bible is mind control or know the secrets of how they manipulate you” which is a terrible thought I don’t want to ever think again.
And an even scarier thought came to mind saying “I’m tired of repenting”

I even read on a site called salvationcall.com
That a heretic is an apostate and never forgivable.And now I’m so scared that at 19 I’m an apostate(I almost said agnostic which is scaring me even more),or a heretic.
It’s even scarier because I was raised in a “Free grace” family but still had sin,I committed the sin of masturbation,inappropriate contentography,coarse jesting,cussing,lusting,and serving the Lord out of selfish motives,but I had taken the Lords supper while still in sin,which makes me remember Hebrews 6:4-6, the Orr about tasting the heavenly gift,but when the pandemic hit,my family stopped going to church to stay safe (the church we went to,I never heard of repentance and it welcomed a lesbian couple) which caused me concern.I began to take biblical advice from GotQuestions and I believe I fell into believing reformed doctrines and I’m now scared after being deceived for a year I’m a heretic and apostate,and I’m suffering rebellious thoughts and Intrusive thoughts that I’m fighting.I’m very very scared and worried.

You have been given new light ... go forward now ... don't worry about the past.

Jesus is always there to pick us up when we fall down (error), receive His forgiveness and move forward in Him.

It is the work of the Holy Spirit to bring one to repentance .... be thankful you have been given new light and don't worry about the past ... continue to study and pray for understanding.

May the Lord bring peace to your mind. Amen.
 
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I’ve been doing some researching,and upon coming up on a theology that I have embraced that many claim is false and now I’m in a panic.

Do you regularly attend a church?
If not why not?

Please talk to your minister about what on line theological course he would recomend you study.

Untill you have such a study course, may I suggest that you limit your online research.

May I also suggest that you get activly involved in serving in your local church, talking and meeting real people.

Many of your anxieties etc are self inflected because you read something and promptly think that is you.

an example of which is this Lordship idea.
Jesus said, 'If you Love me you will obey my commands.' Well do you Love him? Yes or No, so you seek to obey him. That is all you need to know.

Past sins, you don't need to greave for them, they have been dealt with, forgive and erased from Gods memory.
 
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In order to focus our faith in Christ alone, God will deliberately take away your confidence in your church, theology, friends, your own ability to refrain from sin, your knowledge - in fact everything. This is normal. Then all you can do is to go directly to Christ Himself and establish your fellowship with Him alone. Then He will reveal Himself to you and you will find real peace and assurance in Him alone.
 
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