I suppose so.. are you on the same page with Paul who taught that when we are baptized, we are baptized into the Death and Burial of Christ, and when we come up from the water we have been raised with Him as well?:
Coloissians 2:11-13
11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
Do you generally agree once baptized, you and I "were raised with Him." already? Generally speaking?
Of course. I believe there are two aspects to this:
Every time a person comes to faith in Christ and is baptized into Christ, he dies with Christ and is raised with Christ:
Romans 6
3 Do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His death?
4 Therefore we were buried with Him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father; even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been joined together in the likeness of His death, we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection;
Colossians 3
1 If then you were raised with [συνεγείρω synegeírō] Christ,
seek those things which are above, where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God.
2 Be mindful of things above, not on things on the earth.
3
For you died, and your life has been hidden with Christ in God.
4 When Christ our Life is revealed,
then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.
His Spirit is in those who believe in Him, and we are in Him, therefore we have died with Him and risen with Him, and are with Him in heavenly places:
John 14
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20
At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
1 Peter 1:3 says, "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has begotten us again to
a living hope (Greek: záō elpís) through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead."
A. The word translated into "begotten us again" in the above verse is anagennáō. It's a combination of the words gennáō (beget) and aná (again).
B. Living hope (záō elpís): The word záō means to live, and the word elpís means
to anticipate:
So just as Adam became a living soul when God breathed life into Him, so those who are born of the Spirit from above are now spiritually alive, and
live in the hope (anticipation) of their bodily resurrection from the dead, which comes by (with) Christ's one resurrection from the dead.
That's the first aspect, and it takes place with Christ's resurrection over and over (every time someone is saved and added to His family) until He returns and those who are His at His coming are bodily raised. This is also the other aspect: our our own experience of a bodily resurrection, when He returns.
We are not on the same page about the timing of the Glorification, or the Nature of Christ's Resurrected Body.
I suppose we risk getting off into the weeds on this one point, but it is an important distinction.
I believe Christ rose from the dead in the self same physical, corporeal, miracle working body that hung on the cross and was laid in the tomb.
I do not believe His body was glorified until Acts 1:9 at the earliest.
Well I won't argue that point because He did say to Mary,
John 20
17 Jesus said to her, Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, I ascend to My Father and Your Father, and to My God and your God.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Beautiful (so says anyone who's been debating with Preterists - the creed starts to be beautiful to see again).
I believe the the catholic church is the following:
Ephesians 4
4 There is one body and one Spirit, even as you are called in one hope of your calling,
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in you all.