Did Joe Biden go too far

disciple Clint · Jan 14, 2022

"Do you want to be the side of Dr. King or George Wallace?," asked Biden. "Do you want to be the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis? This is the moment to decide, to defend our elections, to defend our democracy. If you do that you will not be alone."
For one Democratic senator, Biden's rhetoric was over the top.
Analysis: Did Joe Biden go too far in his voting rights speech? This Democratic Senator thinks so. - CNNPolitics

Taodeching · Jan 14, 2022

He went to far. Biden is still wanting us to hate each other

Der Alte · Jan 14, 2022

disciple Clint said:
"Do you want to be the side of Dr. King or George Wallace?," asked Biden. "Do you want to be the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis? This is the moment to decide, to defend our elections, to defend our democracy. If you do that you will not be alone."
For one Democratic senator, Biden's rhetoric was over the top.
Analysis: Did Joe Biden go too far in his voting rights speech? This Democratic Senator thinks so. - CNNPolitics

I think them folks from that side would say he didn't go far enough.

.Mikha'el. · Jan 14, 2022

I would agree it goes too far. He's basically trying to guilt-trip his opponents into supporting it, and guilt trips have never and never will convince anyone. Such divisive language really isn't helpful.

bekkilyn · Jan 14, 2022

I'm still trying to figure out which citizens in this country aren't able to vote.

TLK Valentine · Jan 14, 2022

Taodeching said:
He went to far. Biden is still wanting us to hate each other

Joke's on him -- I was hated by the Right long before Joe was elected.

Bradskii · Jan 14, 2022

bekkilyn said:
I'm still trying to figure out which citizens in this country aren't able to vote.

Gee, I thought you'd have known that it's the inconvenience that's the problem.

I voted in a local election a couple of weeks ago and it went pretty much the same as a federal one does. A few minutes walk to the polling station and about 5 minutes to vote. When I read about the hours that it takes to vote that some people in the US have to put up with, I'm horrified. And only about half the population bothers. Everyone here has to vote. It's compulsory. And takes no time at all. I spent longer in the queue at the supermarket checkout on my way home.

keith99 · Jan 14, 2022

His remarks were a bit unfair....

To Jefferson Davis.

Pommer · Jan 14, 2022

.Mikha'el. said:
I would agree it goes too far. He's basically trying to guilt-trip his opponents into supporting it, and guilt trips have never and never will convince anyone. Such divisive language really isn't helpful.

Back when the “enemy” was outside the USA, the “either with with us, or you’re with the terrorists” rhetoric from GWB, pops to mind.

Now, is Biden dividing or simply accepting that political realities that he sees and defining the divide?

Aldebaran · Jan 14, 2022

keith99 said:
His remarks were a bit unfair....

To Jefferson Davis.

Especially since he once bragged about being praised by Jefferson Davis. It's not nice to turn against friends. Jefferson Davis was a democrat. So was George Wallace and Bull Connor. But he seems to forget which party was in favor of slavery. It's the one he himself is part of, and exploits race at every opportunity, just as his predecessors did, except they were upfront about it.

disciple Clint · Jan 14, 2022

Der Alte said:
I think them folks from that side would say he didn't go far enough.

Well almost everyone he mentioned was a member of the same party he is a member of, maybe his past is catching up with him.

TLK Valentine · Jan 15, 2022

Aldebaran said:
Especially since he once bragged about being praised by Jefferson Davis. It's not nice to turn against friends. Jefferson Davis was a democrat. So was George Wallace and Bull Connor. But he seems to forget which party was in favor of slavery.

He seems to remember that slavery was over 150 years ago... as was the party's support.

disciple Clint · Jan 15, 2022

TLK Valentine said:
He seems to remember that slavery was over 150 years ago... as was the party's support.

Do you think he remembers any of these things?
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”

In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”

Of course, he infamously worked with segregationist senators to oppose that mandatory busing, which decades later led to the strongest moment in Kamala Harris’s campaign for president, when she blasted him as having personally impacted her as a young girl.

And over the course of his entire career, he had kind words to say about staunchly segregationist senators.
Biden’s History of Getting Away With Racist Remarks

dqhall · Jan 15, 2022

disciple Clint said:
"Do you want to be the side of Dr. King or George Wallace?," asked Biden. "Do you want to be the side of John Lewis or Bull Connor? Do you want to be the side of Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis? This is the moment to decide, to defend our elections, to defend our democracy. If you do that you will not be alone."
For one Democratic senator, Biden's rhetoric was over the top.
Analysis: Did Joe Biden go too far in his voting rights speech? This Democratic Senator thinks so. - CNNPolitics

He seems to be caught up in the Black power movement. They want affirmative action. That in and of itself is unfair.

Bradskii · Jan 15, 2022

disciple Clint said:
Do you think he remembers any of these things?
In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”

Byrd lived his life forever regretting his association with the KKK. His upbringing and the times in which he lived when he was in his twenties led him to think that segregation was God's will. Some still think that. But he lived long enough and had enough experiences to realise that he'd been wrong and never stopped admitting that he'd been wrong and apologising for it. He's to be commended for that. You obviously think not.

Both my parents were racist (as was I). For the same reasons as Byrd. But they didn't live long enough to see the errors of their ways. They are remembered for the good they did and forgiven for the errors of their upbringing. It seems that you wouldn't forgive them.

Do you think that says more about these people or more about you?

Hank77 · Jan 15, 2022

Aldebaran said:
But he seems to forget which party was in favor of slavery. It's the one he himself is part of, and exploits race at every opportunity, just as his predecessors did, except they were upfront about it.

Be enlightened if you dare...
Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten

rambot · Jan 15, 2022

Hundreds of mail-in ballot applications are being rejected under Texas’ new voting rules

.“It’s disturbing that our senior citizens who have relished and embraced voting by mail are now having to jump through some hoops, and it’s upsetting when we have to send a rejection letter [when] we can see they’ve voted with us by mail for years,” said Jacque Callanen, the Bexar County election administrator.

to be fair, it's only senior citizens so really

Who cares if they have to do more right? They for nothing but time on their hands...assuming they aren't still having to work because they haven't been able to afford to retire.

rambot · Jan 15, 2022

Captain Ahab said:
He went too far the day his handlers allowed him to come out of the basement. To sign that huge stack of executive orders they had prepared for him.

It really isn’t him that went too far, but the handlers who are giving him his orders through the teleprompters and ear pieces. He is just a figurehead and whipping boy for the more radical authoritarians pulling the strings behind the scenes. The interns who changed Biden’s diaper the day he pooped his pants in front of the Pope have more say than Biden.

What distasteful nonsense...

TLK Valentine · Jan 15, 2022

Bradskii said:
Gee, I thought you'd have known that it's the inconvenience that's the problem.

You'd think the people who support armed protests over wearing face masks would understand "inconvenience."

TLK Valentine · Jan 15, 2022

Bradskii said:
Byrd lived his life forever regretting his association with the KKK. His upbringing and the times in which he lived when he was in his twenties led him to think that segregation was God's will. Some still think that. But he lived long enough and had enough experiences to realise that he'd been wrong and never stopped admitting that he'd been wrong and apologising for it. He's to be commended for that. You obviously think not.

Both my parents were racist (as was I). For the same reasons as Byrd. But they didn't live long enough to see the errors of their ways. They are remembered for the good they did and forgiven for the errors of their upbringing. It seems that you wouldn't forgive them.

Do you think that says more about these people or more about you?

Forgiveness is a Christian virtue, but a political inconvenience. And as no man can serve two masters...

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