“I think we should throw those books in a fire,” [Spotsylvania school board member] Abuismail said

Hammster said:

Can you remind me what fallacy this is? I can’t always remember which one is which.

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This would be what I call the “big picture fallacy”, I do not know the formal name. It takes the argument back a step to question the particulars of the premise; in this case “having public libraries is a given”.

Hammster said:

Can you monitor what your child reads if they don’t actually check out the book. Every library I’ve ever been in has tables where you can sit and read.

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You could try being an actual parent and talking to your kid. Ask them what they are reading. If they are actively hiding what they are reading from you by doing what you suggested and not answering honestly when you ask them, then your family has bigger infra-family dysfunctional issues that you cosplaying as the gestapo isn’t going to solve.

Hammster said:

I’m comparing informing parents in two different situations. I think that parents should be informed if a school is going to take their child to have any medical procedure (though abortion is the only one that seems to be legal in some states). Informing parents about books seems pretty minor, imo.

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In the case of medical procedures, the student's health -- perhaps life -- is on the line. But in the case of library books, there is also the issue of the children's constitutional rights... including the First Amendment and the implied right to privacy covered by the Fourth.

SCOTUS determined in Tinker v Des Moines (1969) that a public school can only infringe on a student's constitutional rights if exercising those rights somehow interferes with the student's education.

Hammster said:

So not only are they being taken somewhere to have a procedure where one or two people may die, they are going to circumvent law enforcement while their at it.

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Not at all -- the law allows it, and the child always has the option to notify law enforcement after the procedeure.

It seems that notifying parents about a book should be easy peasy.

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It would be if the child had no Constitutional rights... pesky thing, that Constitution, innit?

Hammster said:

And here we go again. On what basis does the librarian decide which books should be included?

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You'll have to ask the librarians themselves for the specifics... if you have any serious queries...

For instance, is it okay for them to have a magazine rack that has the latest Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler magazines?

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...which apparently you don't.

(remember when I talked about the official or understood "restricted list" that many school boards have? It's a safe bet all of these publications are on every such list)

Hammster said:

Sorry, but I was talking about informing parents. I know this because I’m the one who wrote it.

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Lols, you were posting about more than mere informing. I know this because I read the words, words that are still right there for everyone to see.

Hammster said:

No I’m comparing informing parents about a book (which was humorously called Big Brother) and informing about an abortion.

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Well, you FIRST wrote,"You are probably in support of schools taking girls to get abortions" which is a scurrilous claim. Because of the conjunction "and" links the two clauses you can't claim, plausibly, to only have meant the second one. Deny what you will, the words are still there.

Hammster said:

Of course I compared situations. What I didn’t do was make abortion equal to checking out a book. What I did do was to compare informing parents.

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You did both - the situations you're comparing are taking a child to get an abortion and checking out a book. The problem is that the first situation, the school is performing the action of taking the child and in the second situation, the child is performing the action of checking out a book.

Hammster said:

Can you monitor what your child reads if they don’t actually check out the book. Every library I’ve ever been in has tables where you can sit and read.

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`Again, you could try asking the child what he is reading.

Most libraries are divided into "children's sections" and "adult sections". I believe that children get their computer browsing filtered in a way that adults do not. "Lady Chatterly's Lover" and Joyce's "Ulysses" are appropriate for young adults, but not young children. Would you restrict adults to what is appropriate for toddlers and tweens?

Hammster said:

Of course I compared situations. What I didn’t do was make abortion equal to checking out a book. What I did do was to compare informing parents.

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And in one case, violating the kid's Constitutional rights.

Book burning in this day and age? I am speechless...

Hammster said:

Obviously your mind is made up. I’m moving on now.

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Good -- violating the Constitution is serious business; best not to dwell on it.

Hammster said:

Of course I compared situations. What I didn’t do was make abortion equal to checking out a book. What I did do was to compare informing parents.

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MY bold.

To be clear: You compared the two situations and whether you would inform parents in both situations?

Hammster said:

No it wasn’t. And not relevant.

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Puritans would get their jollies by publicly striping and brutally whiping members of other religions. What a bunch of perverts.

Hammster said:

I think it’s more of a non sequitur.

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More a “pre sequitur”, but point taken.
Fair thee well.

Hammster said:

Oh, I homeschool my kids. I don’t have to worry about it.

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Homeschool kids have never jhoddn stuff from their parents?