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BobRyan said: ↑
Because in my illustration I use "having the real ticket" as "having salvation" (the first point in a saved person's life -- obviously)
And I use "raptured to heaven" as another step/stage/event (second poiny) in a saved person's life - and so not claiming the rapture is "the moment a person is saved".
In fact, there are NO verses that make this point or claim. None.
Rather, the Bible clearly presents the resurrection, which would include a 'rapture', as being a single event, not several, or a series of events.
Matt 22:30, Luke 14:14 and Acts 24:15 all speak of the resurrection in the singular.
So does 1 Cor 15:23, and specifically included ALL believers from ALL time periods.
And Rev 20:4,5 clearly describes the resurrection of Trib martyrs as the FIRST resurrection.
Oh, and btw, Acts 24:15 clearly shows there will be one resurrection for the saved and one for the unsaved. That's 2 TOTAL. So Rev 20:5 doesn't teach that there will be another resurrection for the saved. There is only one. And it will occur "when He comes" a reference to the Second Advent in 1 Cor 15:23 and in 2 Thess 2:1, again including the gathering (rapture) with the Second Advent of Christ.
If you disagree, please address the verses I have cited and prove that they say something other than there is only 1 resurrection for the saved and 1 for the lost.
I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want to misread Scripture any more than you do.
Because in my illustration I use "having the real ticket" as "having salvation" (the first point in a saved person's life -- obviously)
And I use "raptured to heaven" as another step/stage/event (second poiny) in a saved person's life - and so not claiming the rapture is "the moment a person is saved".
Where in the Bible do you find any mention of a "rapture to heaven"? That certainly is the common view of most Christians regarding "the rapture". But where does the Bible describe that?I can put bullet points on them if you prefer.
In fact, there are NO verses that make this point or claim. None.
Rather, the Bible clearly presents the resurrection, which would include a 'rapture', as being a single event, not several, or a series of events.
Matt 22:30, Luke 14:14 and Acts 24:15 all speak of the resurrection in the singular.
So does 1 Cor 15:23, and specifically included ALL believers from ALL time periods.
And Rev 20:4,5 clearly describes the resurrection of Trib martyrs as the FIRST resurrection.
Oh, and btw, Acts 24:15 clearly shows there will be one resurrection for the saved and one for the unsaved. That's 2 TOTAL. So Rev 20:5 doesn't teach that there will be another resurrection for the saved. There is only one. And it will occur "when He comes" a reference to the Second Advent in 1 Cor 15:23 and in 2 Thess 2:1, again including the gathering (rapture) with the Second Advent of Christ.
If you disagree, please address the verses I have cited and prove that they say something other than there is only 1 resurrection for the saved and 1 for the lost.
I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want to misread Scripture any more than you do.
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