Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

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For those who desire to be teachers of the law, I will teach them what it is they do not understand ( what the law is)


First of all, the query of them is, are they able to back up their insistence, that Jesus kept the law of Moses ?


Jesus Christ ids the law, of Christ, not of Moses.

To all the ten commandments, I include how it cannot be Christ keeping what He is.


But remember first, the law is not made for a righteous person ( the law cant be made for JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS.


Next we also are told, the sabbath ( part of the law of ten commandments) was made for man. The law is not made for a righteous man ( not made for Jesus Christ the righteous)




1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS, then Jesus Christ is free from that law for the lawless and disobedient, and the Son of man also is LORD OF THE SABBATH. ( not a server of a law you are Lord over)





1 Timothy 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
9 KNOWING THIS, THAT THE LAW IS NOT MADE FOR A RIGHTEOUS MAN, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.


Mark 2:24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.






This list now shows how irrelevant the teachers of the law are, in that they are unable to show the necessity of the Lord keeping the laws that He gave to lawless disobedient man.



The ten commandments.



Jesus cannot have other Gods before Him, as the prophets go before Him to show the way of the Lord God..







1. Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.


Luke 1:76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;






Jesus again cannot make an image to serve it, as He Himself is the express image of the person of God, who made all the worlds, upholding all things by the Word of His power, who purges our sins sat down on the right hand of power ( on His throne of God and the Lamb)...






2. Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;


Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:







Jesus does not take the name of the Lord in vain, He is the name of the Lord and came to glorify the name of the Father..



3. Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.


John 12:28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

2 Thessalonians 1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.







Remember not only is the law not made for Jesus Christ the righteous, the sabbath ( law) was made for man ( unlawful disobedient man) and the Son of man being Lord, is Lord of the sabbath day, not Lord to be under it to observe a law, but Lord over it, in His own law of Christ. ( the righteousness of the law)


Israel sought to persecute Jesus then, by the things He did on the sabbath day.

Only the unrighteous (who the law is made for) seek to persecute Jesus Christ the righteous ( who needs no law as them) Jesus does these as not only He is equal with God, but as God, He also WORKS ( never rests) on the sabbath..





4. Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


John 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.






Now we see the next law how it cannot possibly be made for God who is without father, or mother.




5. Exodus 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.



Hebrews 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.


John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.






Again the law is given for "for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers."

Does God need a law to teach Him to not kill ?

No God teaches us and the disciples, how they desired to kill but did not know what spirit ( evil killing one) they were of, but Christ is the Holy Spirit who came to SAVE LIVES, not to kill ( not to destroy)



6. Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.



Luke 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.






According to the laws teachers ( who do not understand what it is they teach or affirm at all) that God had to observe a law telling Him not to commit adultery.

Instead of their ( confusion) baseless claims that the Son of God keeps to their law ( for the lawless and disobedient, who the law was made for) Christ teaches more for them, how if they even look on a woman with lust, that is them already committing adultery with her, in his heart ( not necessary for Christ as His heart is pure, He is the righteous and He is the pure)


7: Exodus 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.


Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.






According to these law teachers, ( who think God has to keep the laws that are made for them) that Christ also observed the law of not stealing. Again see what ignorance in them, is being corrected.

Christ restores what He took not away ( the way to the Most Holy) and it was the devil ( the law was made for these, " for liars, for perjured persons" and the devil is that liar who stole from us the way to God ( who lies now and steals the way to the Most Holy) and the lawless law observers have that father..




8. Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.



Psalm 69:4 They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head: they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty: then I restored that which I took not away.

Ephesians 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Hebrews 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.








It was written in the law for Israel ( for the lawless and disobedient) to not bear false witness against their neighbour.

The Jews sought to catch Jesus in wrong witness, claiming He was wrong to bear witness of Himself. Jesus shows He has a different way than they, as He knows where He came from, and where He goes to, and they cant telk none of that neither who the Father and Jesus are.

Jesus explains it is because they are flesh ( God is Spirit) and how the Son and the Father are together, are one and same.

Jesus also confirms for them, it is their law ( not His then to observe) but that according to their law, Jesus was doing no wrong, as the Father bears witness of the Son and the Son bears witness of Himself..




9. Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.



John 8:13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.

John 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
17 It is also written IN YOUR LAW, that the testimony of two men is true.
18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.







Silly again to think that the Son of God needs to be given a law to observe with the greedy ones, how to not covet ?

Christ made the earth and the Heavens, and being heir inherits all things.

On top of having nowhere to lay His head, taught to have treasure in Heaven you also leave all of these things behind..





10. Exodus 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.




Acts 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
50 Hath not my hand made all these things?

Mark 10:28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
 

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I told these teachers, there is no law any longer.

The law is for those who are still the unlawful disobedient haters.

Fruit of the Spirit is nothing to do with law, meekness and temperance has no law ( against it or to do with it)

THIS IS WHY WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW, ( AS NO LAW IS AGAINST US)..


Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
 
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[Mathew 5:17-20 NKJV]
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches [them], he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

 
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Fulfillment is how all the law is fulfilled in ONE WORD and one way ( not of necessity/law):


Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
 
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