Is King James onlyism a heresy?
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Not true. The King James Bible translators openly criticized the Roman Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible translation.
Throughout the 1611 KJB Preface there are repeated references to the contrast between between the Bible translation work of Christians of the Reformation faith and those of the Catholic church.
The whole quote in context is this.
“Now to the latter we answer, That we do not deny, nay, we affirm and avow, that THE VERY MEANEST TRANSLATION of the Bible in English SET FORTH BY MEN OF OUR PROFESSION, (for we have seen NONE OF THEIRS of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay is the word of God.” ~ 1611 KJB Preface.
It should be clear that Miles Smith (the man who wrote the Preface) is referring to the Douay-Rheims ENGLISH NEW TESTAMENT here, which was published by the Roman Catholics in 1582, the Old Testament not appearing until 1610, some five or six years AFTER the King James Bible translators began their own work of translation. Thus the reason for Smith's notation that they had "SEEN NONE OF THEIRS OF THE WHOLE BIBLE AS YET."
Even the Catholics themselves acknowledge that the King James Bible translators severely criticized and mocked the Catholic versions. Here is their own Catholic Cultur.org site where they talk about their Douay-Rheims bible.
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=4300&CFID=64452699&CFTOKEN=99023368
Here in their own words they mention: "Further, the translators of the KJV make specific reference to the Douay version in their translators' preface, where they devote space to attacking the word choices made by the translators of the Douay. "We have shunned the obscurity of the Papists, in their [use of words like] AZIMES, TUNIKE, RATIONAL, HOLOCAUSTS, PRAEPUCE, PASCHE, and a number of such like [words], whereof their late Translation is full" ("The Translators to the Reader," King James Version, 1611 ed.).
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https://brandplucked.webs.com/catholicsandthekjb.htm
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Also, if you know anything about the actual history of the King James Bible, you would know that King James was very much against Catholicism, and the Catholics were not in favor of the translation of the King James Bible. In fact, the Catholics tried to stop King James and his translation with a super bomb. So it is highly unlikely that this would even be remotely true at all. I would recommend educating yourself a little on the history of the King James Bible. At least watch the documentary called:
KJB: The Book That Changed the World:
Trailer:
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According to John 1:1, Jesus Christ is the Word of God.
This claim is only true of some modern translations, and your use of the phrase “modern translations” itself is confusing your argument, because in many cases, your argument is with specific modern translations that are using manuscripts of the Alexandrian Text Type, but this does not apply to all modern translations:
King James Bible
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
New King James Version
However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”
New American Standard Bible
NASB 1995
“But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”
NASB 1977
[“But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”]
Amplified Bible
[But this kind of demon does not go out except by prayer and fasting.]”
Holman Christian Standard Bible
However, this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting.”
American Standard Version
But this kind goeth not out save by prayer and fasting.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“But this kind does not go out except by fasting and by prayer.”
Douay-Rheims Bible
But this kind is not cast out but by prayer and fasting.
English Revised Version
International Standard Version
But this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting."
Literal Standard Version
[[and this kind does not go forth except in prayer and fasting.”]]
Weymouth New Testament
But an evil spirit of this kind is only driven out by prayer and fasting."
World English Bible
But this kind doesn't go out except by prayer and fasting."
Young's Literal Translation
and this kind doth not go forth except in prayer and fasting.
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Assuming that’s an accurate statement, it would have been silly for them to do it, because the KJV was basically a revised version of the Bishops’ Bible with slightly better prose and more rigorous translation, to compare favorably with the Geneva Bible; King James, having experienced that higher quality translation, was keen to authorize a similar translation for the Church of England.
Now, the amusing facts about this statement is that among modern Bibles, the ones least likely to contain the various flaws you complain about are Roman Catholic bibles, the Challoner Douai Rheims is almost indistinguishable from the KJV in the New Testament except, like the Geneva Bible, it has annoying interpolated doctrinal statements.
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They consulted the Vulgate and Peshitta, among other sources besides the Textus Receptus, all of which are examples of the Majority Text or Byzantine Text Type.. As far as English bibles are concerned, the two main influences on the KJV were the Bishops’ Bible, which it was intended to replace, and the Geneva Bible, which was until the reign of King Charles I the official Bible of the Church of Scotland; the last Church of Scotland parish switched to the KJV in the early 1870s. The Church of England retained the KJV.
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To all:
I am too busy right now working on new and exciting reasons based on Scripture and facts in defense of the King James Bible to deal with what I believe are petty and weak arguments against God’s Word (the KJB). If I feel it is worth my time in replying at a later time, I will reply. If not, I will simply move on. But for now, I am too busy to be distracted by such insignificant arguments and mere opinions.
Anyways, we can agree to disagree in love.
May the Lord’s good ways be upon you all.
I am too busy right now working on new and exciting reasons based on Scripture and facts in defense of the King James Bible to deal with what I believe are petty and weak arguments against God’s Word (the KJB). If I feel it is worth my time in replying at a later time, I will reply. If not, I will simply move on. But for now, I am too busy to be distracted by such insignificant arguments and mere opinions.
Anyways, we can agree to disagree in love.
May the Lord’s good ways be upon you all.
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chad kincham
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It’s not heresy, but it’s unlearned and ignorant to the max, and a waste of time.
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chad kincham
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And the AV1611 was full of margin notes with alternate renderings of many verses, proving it’s not an inerrant translation.
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Yes, sadly, this has become a completely fruitless effort on which far too much attention has been given.
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Yeah, and a lot of folks considered Mr. Trump to be goofy, too. Goofy can take some very surprising turns.
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It’s a silly and weak argument. This video already addresses this false line of thinking. In fact, this KJB Only brother defends against an Anti-KJB critic’s words who mockingly says he is ESV Only (When he really isn’t).
This ESV Only guy (When he is not really ESV Only) sounds like somebody I already talked with on another forum a long long long time ago (or it could be someone else copying this other guy’s work). He actually created a whole thread (ESV Only) so as to mock my belief in God’s Word. Good thing the moderators stepped in. I actually just finished just recently in coming up with 101 reasons for the King James Bible. I am fine tuning my reasons a bit and doing a lot of supporting writing for these points. In other words, the more I searched for why the KJB was God’s Word, the more reasons I found and not less. But those who do not have a perfect bible simply mock and or claim faith in the words of Modern Scholarship. My faith is in God’s Word and not in the wisdom of men.
This ESV Only guy (When he is not really ESV Only) sounds like somebody I already talked with on another forum a long long long time ago (or it could be someone else copying this other guy’s work). He actually created a whole thread (ESV Only) so as to mock my belief in God’s Word. Good thing the moderators stepped in. I actually just finished just recently in coming up with 101 reasons for the King James Bible. I am fine tuning my reasons a bit and doing a lot of supporting writing for these points. In other words, the more I searched for why the KJB was God’s Word, the more reasons I found and not less. But those who do not have a perfect bible simply mock and or claim faith in the words of Modern Scholarship. My faith is in God’s Word and not in the wisdom of men.
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Anyways, I am going to step back out. Nothing to see here that is substantial that I have not seen before by Anti-KJB Only critics.
May God bless you even if we disagree.
May God bless you even if we disagree.
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