Timtofly
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Did Gabriel blow a trumpet at the birth of Christ? That would be the first Trumpet. The Second Coming would be the second or last Trumpet. That would be the only two times Gabriel would fulfill the message he gave to Daniel in Daniel 9. We know Gabriel talked to Mary and Joseph. Paul could be referring to Gabriel as the archangel with the Trump of God.The thing is like I pointed out in another post, we aren't privy to every discussion or teaching that went on. We are only given samples, etc enough that the Father preserved for us. So we have 0 way of knowing what everything they were taught. But we are privy to the fact that they were indeed taught that Christ returns at the last trump. Which of course we know ourselves is the 7th trump. But it doesn't take away from that fact that the last trump is the 7th.
And what exactly your point about Paul's teachings? He taught that Christ returns at the last trump. By even bringing up that he comes at the last trump, we can assume that there was teachings on the trumps. Again, we are only given Paul's letters. Not his actual teachings within the crowds in person. I'm sure many questions were asked. Why would Paul even bring up "last trump"? Since he does bring up the word "last" I think we can safely assume that the people knew there were more than one. Why would Paul confuse them on this?
Revelation (to reveal) gives us the entire complete picture but to say that no knowledge of the trumps were known before then is a reach.
But the Trumpets are used to call Israel to assembly. The church is addressed by the Seals. So is Paul only talking about Israel, or the church? When Christ returns He is coming to rescue Jerusalem, but the church is taken out in the process. The church remains in Paradise, while Jesus deals with Israel in the Trumpets. Gabriel could have sounded the Trumpet at the Second Coming, but the last sounding is for the completion of the final Harvest, after the Tribulation is over. The 7th Trumpet lasts for a whole week. It is the celebration Trumpet. Paul's rapture is an instant, not a week long event. Revelation 10:7
"But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."
Daniel 9:27 is a week of days. The 7th Trumpet is the week of Jesus Christ the Prince confirming the Atonement Covenant for a week of days. This is still a future event. Is Paul saying this last Trumpet is the end of all things? That is what John tells us in Revelation. The Great Tribulation, the final harvest is over before this 7th Trumpet even starts. The 7th Trumpet brings those 70 weeks to a close. Matthew 13 and the parable of the final harvest has Jesus and the angels already on the earth. So either the rapture happens when Jesus arrives, or the rapture happens months after Jesus arrives and the final harvest has already been completed.
Gabriel could sound the Trumpet at the arrival in the 6th Seal, but the 7th sounding is the celebration of a completed final harvest. A harvest Jesus and the angels were present on earth for. Matthew 13:38-43
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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