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The Jews, the Messianic, and the Seventh Day Adventists, all have one thing in common, it is Exodus 20:3, to remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. I know this because they have taught this to us on this forum....





Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.





Everybody is led by God in some way or other, so that teaching they shared ( of their beliefs they follow) gave awareness, of the significance of remembrance.


The Gospel we see in Luke 1, begins by showing how God now has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy ( now time for grace in Christ)

This is the knowledge of salvation, by the remission of His peoples sins, now that God had visited them, to guide our feet now unto the way of peace. ( Christ says my peace I give unto you)...






Luke 1:54 He hath helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;



Luke 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.





Jesus teaches how it is that Holy Ghost that will teach us all things and will bring all things into remembrance, what Jesus had said to us.

For us then to teach all nations, to observe all things what Jesus had said to us ( Jesus then being with us forever when the Spirit of Christ dwells in us)...






John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.






The Apostles ( mostly Apostle Paul who is Apostle to the Gentiles) teaches us that we shall be brought into remembrance of his ways in Jesus Christ. ( this is how Paul taught in every church)

Paul taught of the offering of the body and blood of Christ, how we are to do this in remembrance of Him.

Paul shares again, tidings of the faith and charity of the believers, which shows the good remembrance of the Apostles ( of their ways in Christ)...





1 Corinthians 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

1 Corinthians 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1 Thessalonians 3:6 But now when Timotheus came from you unto us, and brought us good tidings of your faith and charity, and that ye have good remembrance of us always, desiring greatly to see us, as we also to see you:





Now remember the purpose of this thread. It is remembrance ( which is conscience)


In the last times, some come along who have no remembrance ( of the ways of the Apostles in Christ)

Paul taught what it is they do specifically. forbidding to marry, and commanding to not have the meats which God has said every creature is good.

The significance here is, we are to put the brothers in remembrance of these things, to be nourished up in the words of faith and good doctrine.




1 Timothy 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

1 Timothy 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.





This continues now to Hebrews 10.

The law had a shadow of the things to come ( the shadow of the law was to remember the sabbath to keep it holy)

The law could make nobody perfect ( remembrance of the sabbath to keep it holy could not be holy/perfect)

The sacrifices Israel made could never cease to be made ( the remembrance of the sabbath could never be ceased until the comers were made perfect, and no need for them to remember to be holy once sanctified, as was the every creature sanctified by the Word of God and prayer, and we were sanctified once for all by the body of Christ)

The ones who then still have remembrance of sins, have remembrance of keeping the sabbath day holy, and have remembrance of refusing to call all creatures good. It is told why, as the conscience is seared with that iron, instead of being saved by the baptism of Christ in the answer of a good conscience of Gods remembrance for us and of remembrance of the ways of the Apostles of the Lord in Christ....






Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.


Hebrews 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:






Make no mistake, nothing in our entire new testament tells us to remember the sabbath day to keep it holy, as that would be teaching against how God remembered us to sanctify us, and also in the cleansing of the Gentiles revealed all creatures of God are good. ( no longer the Jews separating from the Gentiles as they did and do, and as testified, sensual, separate, having not the spirit)

Now the remembrance is to put on Christ, which is to put on charity, this is the baptism of the Holy Ghost ( Gods grace) and not the remembrance of the law and of the sabbath to keep it holy...




Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.





Add to our faith knowledge ( knowledge of salvation by the remission of our sins, which is Gods mercy in remembrance of Israel/grace and the law is not of faith)


Add kindness and charity. ( remembrance of the ways of the Apostles of the <Lord is the faith and charity of them)

To abound this way as testified ( in our new Testament) is to be fruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

To not have these things is, to not have true remembrance ( it is to be in remembrance of the law and sabbath instead)

To do the law is to be fallen from grace, it is forgetting ( and then not remembering) that they were purged from their old sins.








Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

2 Peter 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.




The theme of the thread of remembrance, there is nothing else to remember kin the entire new testament, go and search for anything else at all.

Apostle Peter then makes certain not to neglect to put these things in remembrance for us, ( taught to us against what they do not remember, by remembering an old testament ways instead)...




2 Peter 1:2 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;
14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.
 

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The Jews, the Messianic, and the Seventh Day Adventists, all have one thing in common, it is Exodus 20:3, to remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. I know this because they have taught this to us on this forum....





Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.





Everybody is led by God in some way or other, so that teaching they shared ( of their beliefs they follow) gave awareness, of the significance of remembrance.


The Gospel we see in Luke 1, begins by showing how God now has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy ( now time for grace in Christ)

This is the knowledge of salvation, by the remission of His peoples sins, now that God had visited them, to guide our feet now unto the way of peace. ( Christ says my peace I give unto you)...






Luke 1:54 He hath helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;



Luke 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.





Jesus teaches how it is that Holy Ghost that will teach us all things and will bring all things into remembrance, what Jesus had said to us.

For us then to teach all nations, to observe all things what Jesus had said to us ( Jesus then being with us forever when the Spirit of Christ dwells in us)...






John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.






The Apostles ( mostly Apostle Paul who is Apostle to the Gentiles) teaches us that we shall be brought into remembrance of his ways in Jesus Christ. ( this is how Paul taught in every church)

Paul taught of the offering of the body and blood of Christ, how we are to do this in remembrance of Him.

Paul shares again, tidings of the faith and charity of the believers, which shows the good remembrance of the Apostles ( of their ways in Christ)...





1 Corinthians 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

1 Corinthians 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1 Thessalonians 3:6 But now when Timotheus came from you unto us, and brought us good tidings of your faith and charity, and that ye have good remembrance of us always, desiring greatly to see us, as we also to see you:





Now remember the purpose of this thread. It is remembrance ( which is conscience)


In the last times, some come along who have no remembrance ( of the ways of the Apostles in Christ)

Paul taught what it is they do specifically. forbidding to marry, and commanding to not have the meats which God has said every creature is good.

The significance here is, we are to put the brothers in remembrance of these things, to be nourished up in the words of faith and good doctrine.




1 Timothy 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

1 Timothy 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.





This continues now to Hebrews 10.

The law had a shadow of the things to come ( the shadow of the law was to remember the sabbath to keep it holy)

The law could make nobody perfect ( remembrance of the sabbath to keep it holy could not be holy/perfect)

The sacrifices Israel made could never cease to be made ( the remembrance of the sabbath could never be ceased until the comers were made perfect, and no need for them to remember to be holy once sanctified, as was the every creature sanctified by the Word of God and prayer, and we were sanctified once for all by the body of Christ)

The ones who then still have remembrance of sins, have remembrance of keeping the sabbath day holy, and have remembrance of refusing to call all creatures good. It is told why, as the conscience is seared with that iron, instead of being saved by the baptism of Christ in the answer of a good conscience of Gods remembrance for us and of remembrance of the ways of the Apostles of the Lord in Christ....






Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.


Hebrews 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:






Make no mistake, nothing in our entire new testament tells us to remember the sabbath day to keep it holy, as that would be teaching against how God remembered us to sanctify us, and also in the cleansing of the Gentiles revealed all creatures of God are good. ( no longer the Jews separating from the Gentiles as they did and do, and as testified, sensual, separate, having not the spirit)

Now the remembrance is to put on Christ, which is to put on charity, this is the baptism of the Holy Ghost ( Gods grace) and not the remembrance of the law and of the sabbath to keep it holy...




Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Colossians 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.

Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.





Add to our faith knowledge ( knowledge of salvation by the remission of our sins, which is Gods mercy in remembrance of Israel/grace and the law is not of faith)


Add kindness and charity. ( remembrance of the ways of the Apostles of the <Lord is the faith and charity of them)

To abound this way as testified ( in our new Testament) is to be fruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

To not have these things is, to not have true remembrance ( it is to be in remembrance of the law and sabbath instead)

To do the law is to be fallen from grace, it is forgetting ( and then not remembering) that they were purged from their old sins.








Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

2 Peter 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.




The theme of the thread of remembrance, there is nothing else to remember kin the entire new testament, go and search for anything else at all.

Apostle Peter then makes certain not to neglect to put these things in remembrance for us, ( taught to us against what they do not remember, by remembering an old testament ways instead)...




2 Peter 1:2 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;
14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
15 Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.

What you have done is taken a whole lot of scripture used out of context and none of these tell us that we can break the 4th commandment and the holy day of the Lord thy God. Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:11, Mark 2:28

God’s Word does not teach lawlessness. Grace does not delete God’s laws Romans 6:1-2, Faith does not void the law but establishes the law Romans 3:31 and Paul tells us what matters IS keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19, which includes the 4th commandment that God wrote with His own finger and and asked us to Remember Exodus 20:8-11 which is the opposite of your teachings. Perhaps something to pray about.
 
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What you have done is taken a whole lot of scripture used out of context and none of these tell us that we can break the 4th commandment and the holy day of the Lord thy God. Exodus 20:8-11, Isaiah 58:11, Mark 2:28

God’s Word does not teach lawlessness. Grace does not delete God’s laws Romans 6:1-2, Faith does not void the law but establishes the law Romans 3:31 and Paul tells us what matters IS keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19, which includes the 4th commandment that God wrote with His own finger and and asked us to Remember Exodus 20:8-11 which is the opposite of your teachings. Perhaps something to pray about.



Grace magnifies Gods laws to make them honourable.

God remembered His mercy to Israel and gave the Holy Ghost to give remembrance to the Gentiles to do all the ways of grace and faith as seen in the Apostles ( Apostle Paul is Apostle to the Gentiles)

That conscience is what is given, and Romans 6:1-3 explains this, how we are buried with Christ to walk in newness of life by glory of the Father in Christs resurrection.

We are dead to the law by that body of Christ, to then bring fruit to God.



Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.



fruit to God is not circumcision in the flesh ( or anything that was previously done in the flesh for glory of men) and all glory is from and to God now, which is the circumcision of Christ and Christ entering into His glorious rest ( an everlasting sabbath) and all being cleansed, the gentiles and all creatures of God now declared good, nothing to be refused.
 
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Grace magnifies Gods laws to make them honourable.
Or we could actually quote what the scripture states:

The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. Isaiah 42:21 Does magnify mean to increase or decrease?

That conscience is what is given, and Romans 6:1-3 explains this, how we are buried with Christ to walk in newness of life by glory of the Father in Christs resurrection.
Lets go through the whole scripture and see what it says:

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Grace does not give a license to sin as so clearly stated by this scripture. Baptism is a symbol for washing away our sins which is why we walk in newness because our sins our cleansed. When we are walking with Christ we are not sinning. Sin does not come from Christ is comes from the devil and those who walk in sin are not walking with Christ. 1 John 3:8 The Spirit is given to those who obey Acts 5:32 and Jesus gives us the Holy Spirit so we can obey the commandments John 14:15-18. This is a good way to test ourselves to see if we are in the Faith, because sin does not come from God and Jesus did not die so we can live in sin, there would be no point of His death. We are either a slave to sin or a slave to God. Romans 6:15-23 Through Jesus Christ we can overcome sin when walking with Christ.


We are dead to the law by that body of Christ, to then bring fruit to God.Romans 7:4
You do understand Paul is contrasting the law of God with the law of sin and nowhere does Paul advocate we are free to break the commandments of God, in fact Paul says the opposite what matters IS keeping the commandments of God.

Christ entering into His glorious rest ( an everlasting sabbath) and all being cleansed, the gentiles and all creatures of God now declared good, nothing to be refused.

Please quote the scripture where it says Christ rest is an everlasting Sabbath. These are your words and not God's. The Sabbath is defined by God being on the seventh day.

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

The rest you are referring to the gospel rest which is received only though our obedience as shown by the warnings in Hebrews 4:

Hebrews 4:6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience,

What did they disobey? Scripture tells us:

Ezekiel 20:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths

As you can see you do not receive the rest in Christ by breaking the Sabbath commandment. We are not rewarded in scripture by our disobediences as shown throughout the whole bible. Blessed are those that DO His commandments, they may enter the Kingdom of Heaven Revelation 22:14 The Sabbath is a commandment of God written by the finger of God, lawlessness is not a biblical argument. There is another spirit who wants us to be lawless, but not God who told us keeping the commandments are not burdensome 1 John 5:3, but how we show love to God John 14:15, John 15:10, Exodus 20:6 and how He knows us Matthew 7:21-23, 1 John 2:4


God bless
 
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[QUOTE="SabbathBlessings, post: 76471859, member: 428758"

Please quote the scripture where it says Christ rest is an everlasting Sabbath. These are your words and not God's. The Sabbath is defined by God being on the seventh day.

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Rest is glorious when it is ever lasting, when it is not everlasting it is hardly glorious.

The Kingdom of Christ is everlasting.

Christ entered into His glory ( His rest) into His everlasting Kingdom.

Christ once entered into His glory ( rest ) and Kingdom, enters into His everlasting Kingdom ( glory) and rest and remains, it is a Kingdom that never ends. His Kingdom and dominion that shall not pass away nor be destroyed. ( everlasting and Christs rest is an everlasting rest, it is therefore glorious)

This made reconciliation for iniquity, and this brought in everlasting righteousness.




Psalm 145:13 Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.

Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.



Luke 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

2 Peter 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
 
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Please quote the scripture where it says Christ rest is an everlasting Sabbath. These are your words and not God's. The Sabbath is defined by God being on the seventh day.


Rest is glorious when it is ever lasting, when it is not everlasting it is hardly glorious.

The Kingdom of Christ is everlasting.

Christ entered into His glory ( His rest) into His everlasting Kingdom.

Christ once entered into His glory ( rest ) and Kingdom, enters into His everlasting Kingdom ( glory) and rest and remains, it is a Kingdom that never ends. His Kingdom and dominion that shall not pass away nor be destroyed. ( everlasting and Christs rest is an everlasting rest, it is therefore glorious)

This made reconciliation for iniquity, and this brought in everlasting righteousness.




Psalm 145:13 Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.

Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.



Luke 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

2 Peter 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

This is your claim:
Christ rest is an everlasting Sabbath.

Which I asked you to find that scripture, because God defined the Sabbath as being on the seventh day. Exodus 20:8-11

You might want to reread the scriptures you posted because none of them say Christ rest is an everlasting Sabbath. If you can’t make your case through scripture, its best to let God define His Word, especially when it was personally written by the finger of God!

God bless
 
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This is your claim:
Christ rest is an everlasting Sabbath.

Which I asked you to find that scripture, because God defined the Sabbath as being on the seventh day. Exodus 20:8-11

You might want to reread the scriptures you posted because none of them say Christ rest is an everlasting Sabbath. If you can’t make your case through scripture, its best to let God define His Word, especially when it was personally written by the finger of God!

God bless



Christ was crucified and entered into His rest over the sabbath.


This was Christ confirming the covenant with many for one week.


Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
 
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Christ was crucified and entered into His rest over the sabbath.


This was Christ confirming the covenant with many for one week.


Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Just curious if you read what you post because neither of these scriptures state the Christ is the Sabbath. Christ is not the Sabbath, the Sabbath according to God the Father is on the seventh day Exodus 20:10. Jesus did keep the Sabbath in death and rested the seventh day of the week. Still looking for the verse you claim Christ is an eternal Sabbath. I can save you some time, its not in the Bible, because Christ is not the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord thy God that is defined as being on the seventh day. Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13. Hope this helps
 
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God gave His word on tables of stone, as men's heart ( in law) are hearts of stone.

Now it is written in tables of the heart, as the stony heart is taken away ( the law on stone) is taken away.
Not according to God who wrote His law in our hearts and minds in the New Covenant. Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 8:10 and asks IF you love Me, keep My commandments. John 14:15, John 15:10, 1 John 5:3. I will stick with what God’s Word says.
 
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Just curious if you read what you post because neither of these scriptures state the Christ is the Sabbath. Christ is not the Sabbath, the Sabbath according to God the Father is on the seventh day Exodus 20:10. Jesus did keep the Sabbath in death and rested the seventh day of the week. Still looking for the verse you claim Christ is an eternal Sabbath. I can save you some time, its not in the Bible, because Christ is not the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord thy God that is defined as being on the seventh day. Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13. Hope this helps




Christ is Lord of the sabbath, and Christ over the sabbath showed how He is Lord of the sabbath, by dieying on that sabbath day to enter into His glorious and everlasting rest, dominion and kingdom, sorry if its hard to understand in the Spirit but I have explained it to MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER.

Sabbath was made for man, the same as the law was made for the unlawful disobedient man.
 
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Not according to God who wrote His law in our hearts and minds in the New Covenant. Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 8:10 and asks IF you love Me, keep My commandments. John 14:15, John 15:10, 1 John 5:3. I will stick with what God’s Word says.



The works ( commandments of God) are believing on the Son rising..


John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
 
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Here are verses for you, who keep sabbath..


1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that THE LAW IS not MADE for a righteous man, but FOR THE LAWLESS AND DISOBEDIENT, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN, and not man for the sabbath:

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, YE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW.



Now the law of Christ is for the obedience of faith..


Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
 
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Now we understand it all put together, how a man is justified without the works of the law..


Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
 
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Remember also the thread and what is taught, we remember the sabbath or we ( through FAITH) remember Gods mercy and grace on Israel through God visiting us and rising up an horn of glory and WE SERVE HIM IN HOLINESS EVERY DAY FOREVER NOT ON ONE DAY AS THOSE OF THE LAW OF SIN DID AND DO...


Luke 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
72 To perform the MERCY PROMISED to our fathers, and to REMEMBER his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In HOLINESS and righteousness before him, ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIFE.
 
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Here are verses for you, who keep sabbath..


1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that THE LAW IS not MADE for a righteous man, but FOR THE LAWLESS AND DISOBEDIENT, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN, and not man for the sabbath:

Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, YE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW.



Now the law of Christ is for the obedience of faith..


Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
So I take it you gave up on your previous claim that Jesus is an eternal Sabbath and now changed it to new claims with more scripture out of context from your commentary. That’s one way to go through the Bible, but I prefer being led by the Spirit which is given when we obey the commandments you claim are not needed. I believe Jesus. John 14:15-18, Acts 5:32, John 15:10, 1 John 5:3. Revelation 14:12, Revelation 22:14-15, 1 John 2:4, Matthew 5:19, Matthew 7:21-23

Take care.
 
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If you so desperately want to know what are the commandments of God to do, it is mercy, it is giving all of your life away, it is stop with the words and go do the deeds.

Also it cant be told any greater, the sabbath and circumcision, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, it is mans ways, as is fruit of their body their cattle and their lands, but Gods way is as seen, fruit of the Spirit instead.

Now to be harmless, now to enter into the glorious rest of Christ ( not the rest of men) and it is circumcision strictly to God ( no praise and glory of men exists any longer as in the law of Israel)
 
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If you so desperately want to know what are the commandments of God to do, it is mercy, it is giving all of your life away, it is stop with the words and go do the deeds.

Also it cant be told any greater, the sabbath and circumcision, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, it is mans ways, as is fruit of their body their cattle and their lands, but Gods way is as seen, fruit of the Spirit instead.

Now to be harmless, now to enter into the glorious rest of Christ ( not the rest of men) and it is circumcision strictly to God ( no praise and glory of men exists any longer as in the law of Israel)
I love God so I want to obey Him, its that simple.

IF you love Me, keep (obey) My commandments. John 14:15

Why would I would to put any doubt with Jesus that I love Him, which according to Him is expressed through our obedience.
 
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So I take it you gave up on your previous claim that Jesus is an eternal Sabbath and now changed it to new claims with more scripture out of context from your commentary. That’s one way to go through the Bible, but I prefer being led by the Spirit which is given when we obey the commandments you claim are not needed. I believe Jesus. John 14:15-18, 32 And we are witnesses of these things; and [so is] the Holy Spirit, whom God hath given to them that obey him., John 15:10, 1 John 5:3. Revelation 14:12, Revelation 22:14-15, 1 John 2:4, Matthew 5:19, Matthew 7:21-23

Take care.



The commandments are not law, the law is against those who are of the flesh.

The flesh is nothing, why have confidence in it..


Philippians 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.



So beware o the circumcision, who are debtors to do the whole law and are fallen from grace and Christ is become of no effect to them who are "justified" their way



Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.




It is hard to believe in Christ entered into an everlasting rest when people only observe a temporary one for one day a seek, each week.
 
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I love God so I want to obey Him, its that simple.

IF you love Me, keep (obey) My commandments. John 14:15




Good, the law was done by Israel as we saw, but they lacked one thing ( they had and have no treasure in Heaven by their law keeping/observing)



Mark 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
 
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