LGBT meme through proper Biblical Context

Forest_Garden · Jan 11, 2022

Who is who in this illustration? *Note: If the staff finds inappropriate please remove.

If we look at first glance it looks like what its obviously about.

If we give it proper context, the Lord is actually providing the true context of what is being interpreted simply due to the truth of the Holy Bible.

The sheep on the left is arguing about his interpretation, and denomination.
While the sheep on the right, is merciful, compassionate, generous, forgiving, and is willing to be of good accord with the other sheep, but most of all, he is genuine, and truthful and not a liar. Perhaps he has even repented of his difficulties with sin and is trustworthy.
The Lord has stated it so,
To those who claim denomination.

For who ever does the will of God, he is My brother, and My sister and mother.
Mark 3:35

For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Matthew 12:50

The Acceptance Of Homosexuality, LGBT thread in Christian Philosophy & Ethics.
The Acceptance Of Homosexuality, LGBT

Quote from reply:

Homosexuality was accepted back in 2015 when Barrack Obama had legalized gay marriage. There wasn't much of an upheaval because of it. And gay pride parades have been going on for over 50 years.
Theres more than plenty of gay media and entertainment. And we hear more about LGBT rights than BLM's accountability in the damage to our country a year and a half ago...
We don't even have overly prominent gay districts anymore in most places because gay people are accepted generally in the U.S. and other countries.

We can't celebrate or promote homosexuality in the church because it will only be commandeered by the LGBT community for their own criteria and agenda just like others have done so.

Besides the last thing we need is some organization infiltrating the church and then changing church doctrine, gospels, and scripture, to favor supposed equality when its really just to do away with the church by defacing it, and claiming Christianity just to discard it.

I can't verify this below. If someone can, post it in reply.

Sweden: New children’s Bible features far-left gender and diversity ideology; claims God is asexual

Unqualified · Jan 11, 2022

It’s not that. That we are afraid of them coming into our churches and changing doctrine. Though it certainly is possible. But it’s that they are not Christian until they repent of their sin and stop it so that God can accept them into the church as changed for Christ to the glory of God and not themselves.

it is the verses not the law. Jesus and Paul’s words are the truth about life and people and how we are supposed to live. in the NT it is all the law of love.

JimR-OCDS · Jan 11, 2022

I read not long ago that many homosexuals are moving away from the LGBT agendas.
They do not accept the politics of the transgendered groups which are getting laws
passed that force society to accept various things that even they find objectionable.

Either way, I understand that homosexuals can be in a close loving relationship with
a person of the same gender. However that union does not make it a marriage, which
can only exist between a woman and a man. They can call it whatever they want, but
homosexuals will never be able to procreate, which is the primary purpose of marriage.
Not the only purpose, but the primary one.

BTW, I also came to learn that 70% of the homosexual relationships are
between two women. Men with men is only 30% of the total of homosexuals.
I don't have anything to back this up and really don't care to look.

Forest_Garden · Jan 11, 2022

@JimR-OCDS
Only if its true, because if its rhetoric and lobbying well we can see where this is going. Also, I see plenty of gay men as much as I see gay women. I grew up in the gay district in my teens, I know the culture fairly well, not that I would have needed to, since I usually talk to them and are common since the sex revolution began to try to indoctrinate everyone into bisexuality. Not to mention that men are able to transgender. This is not good for the Heterosexual appropriation that God had put down on the earth. All this is coming to and there has been much advisory and warning about what is ahead if we don't turn back to God and make an effort to atone. Not to say I do not have my faults because I do. But like so many of us. We toss one stone away from us at a time.

Hazelelponi · Jan 11, 2022

FountainTurtles32 said:
Who is who in this illustration? *Note: If the staff finds inappropriate please remove.

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If we look at first glance it looks like what its obviously about.

The Lord denying his own sheep while being favorable to or favoring the LGBT sheep.

If we give it proper context, the Lord is actually providing the true context of what is being interpreted simply due to the truth of the Holy Bible.

The sheep on the left is arguing about his interpretation, and denomination.
While the sheep on the right, is merciful, compassionate, generous, forgiving, and is willing to be of good accord with the other sheep, but most of all, he is genuine, and truthful and not a liar. Perhaps he has even repented of his difficulties with sin and is trustworthy.
The Lord has stated it so,
To those who claim denomination.

For who ever does the will of God, he is My brother, and My sister and mother.
Mark 3:35

For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Matthew 12:50

The Acceptance Of Homosexuality, LGBT thread in Christian Philosophy & Ethics.
The Acceptance Of Homosexuality, LGBT

Quote from reply:

Homosexuality was accepted back in 2015 when Barrack Obama had legalized gay marriage. There wasn't much of an upheaval because of it. And gay pride parades have been going on for over 50 years.
Theres more than plenty of gay media and entertainment. And we hear more about LGBT rights than BLM's accountability in the damage to our country a year and a half ago...
We don't even have overly prominent gay districts anymore in most places because gay people are accepted generally in the U.S. and other countries.

We can't celebrate or promote homosexuality in the church because it will only be commandeered by the LGBT community for their own criteria and agenda just like others have done so.

Besides the last thing we need is some organization infiltrating the church and then changing church doctrine, gospels, and scripture, to favor supposed equality when its really just to do away with the church by defacing it, and claiming Christianity just to discard it.

I can't verify this below.

Sweden: New children’s Bible features far-left gender and diversity ideology; claims God is asexual

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They changed scripture and doctrine in that meme, by stating the Bible verses which speak of sin don't matter, only "love" matters.

No Christian believes that, no Christian doctrine teaches that... Yet that meme claims Christ to say it, to the point of denying His sheep (who are those who hear His voice and follow Him, according to scripture).

I don't know what that Swedish bible is, but God is Himself asexual as He's God, but He has a plan for people to follow which the Bible is clear on.

JimR-OCDS · Jan 11, 2022

From my experience, all the homosexuals I know personally, most are women.
There are some men, but the 70%/30% ratio seems to be accurate.

When it comes to transgenderism, most are males and they exhibit gender dysphoria
at an early age, usually before 5 years of age. When left alone 70% grow out of it.
They may end up homosexual or heterosexual but no longer feel the need to be a woman.

The current danger is young pre-teen and teen girls who suddenly claim to be transgender
and want to become males. The laws are prohibiting doctors from treating this as other than
actual gender dysphoria. In fact Canada just made a law prohibiting doctors from treating
these teens in order to help them to accept their biological gender. The problem is that
many of these teen girls are doing this as a means of getting attention and because they're getting influenced on social media sites. The danger is when they begin to be given gender-blockers and testosterone. Some also are able to get surgery done like full mastectomies. When
they reach an age when they realize the do not have gender dysphoria and want to go back, it's
very difficult and often the damage done is beyond repair. Some are unable to have children as a result of what they did.

Abigail Shrier wrote a book recently on this called, "Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters."

You can listen to a talk she gave here;

Forest_Garden · Jan 11, 2022

@Unqualified

We are not concerned with them becoming Christian as much as we are with the lying, the rampant egos, the debauchery, party in the street parades that had been defiling our culture by making it an excuse to allow total public indecency. and the reply I gave above to JimR
Does anyone not recall what came out last year.

heres what else showed up

Extracurricular, very much a reference to school and education. No need to see the lyrical content, The title says it since its the same singing chorus group.

Irkle Berserkle · Jan 11, 2022

Come on, there's no doubt what that's about. I've come here from a long stint of debating with New Age pseudo-Christians who, across the board, strongly support the LGBTQ movement. "Love over verses" is their mantra. "Love" - which they define as all-encompassing tolerance (if not celebration) of anything and everything - trumps any biblical verse or commandment. All notions of sin, repentance or God's justice and judgment simply disappear from this brand of "Christianity."

SilverBear · Jan 11, 2022

JimR-OCDS said:
I read not long ago that many homosexuals are moving away from the LGBT agendas.

What agendas?

They do not accept the politics of the transgendered groups which are getting laws
passed that force society to accept various things that even they find objectionable.

what laws?

Either way, I understand that homosexuals can be in a close loving relationship with
a person of the same gender. However that union does not make it a marriage, which
can only exist between a woman and a man.

if they are married it's a marriage

They can call it whatever they want,

its called a marriage because that is what it is.

but
homosexuals will never be able to procreate, which is the primary purpose of marriage.
Not the only purpose, but the primary one.

SO why can heterosexuals who cannot procreate get married?

BTW, I also came to learn that 70% of the homosexual relationships are
between two women. Men with men is only 30% of the total of homosexuals.
I don't have anything to back this up and really don't care to look.

it's hard to back up fake claims isn't it?

Unqualified · Jan 11, 2022

Is it economics that brings about these laws and causes acceptance and encouragement of this behavior of the lbtg community? Who in charge of all this permissiveness? The hippies caused revolution and were then accepted. Is this government by the people? But the moral fabric has crumbled! Gods word is being changed. The country can’t be saved but individuals can. My quimby is the ruination of children that by a little strong guidance wouldn’t have gender dysphoria. Satan has introduced this to our minds.

JimR-OCDS · Jan 11, 2022

Unqualified said:
Is it economics that brings about these laws and causes acceptance and encouragement of this behavior of the lbtg community? Who in charge of all this permissiveness? The hippies caused revolution and were then accepted. Is this government by the people? But the moral fabric has crumbled! Gods word is being changed. The country can’t be saved but individuals can. My quimby is the ruination of children that by a little strong guidance wouldn’t have gender dysphoria. Satan has introduced this to our minds.

It's driven by the LGBTQ community to make their life styles as morally equivalent to
heterosexual relationships and marriage.

When Vermont passed a civil union law, the gay community rejected it. They wanted the right
to be married just as heterosexual couples were. In other words, having the legal and economic rights were not acceptable. They wanted society to accept same-sex marriages as the same
moral equivalent as heterosexual marriages.

SilverBear · Jan 11, 2022

JimR-OCDS said:
From my experience, all the homosexuals I know personally, most are women.
There are some men, but the 70%/30% ratio seems to be accurate.

When it comes to transgenderism, most are males and they exhibit gender dysphoria
at an early age, usually before 5 years of age. When left alone 70% grow out of it.
They may end up homosexual or heterosexual but no longer feel the need to be a woman.

or, as the research shows, they were never diagnosed with gender dysphoria in the first place.

The current danger is young pre-teen and teen girls who suddenly claim to be transgender
and want to become males. The laws are prohibiting doctors from treating this as other than
actual gender dysphoria.

what law is this?

In fact Canada just made a law prohibiting doctors from treating
these teens in order to help them to accept their biological gender.

again what law?

The problem is that
many of these teen girls are doing this as a means of getting attention and because they're getting influenced on social media sites.

and you know this....how?

The danger is when they begin to be given gender-blockers and testosterone. Some also are able to get surgery done like full mastectomies. When
they reach an age when they realize the do not have gender dysphoria and want to go back, it's
very difficult and often the damage done is beyond repair. Some are unable to have children as a result of what they did.

what in the world are "gender blockers"?

Abigail Shrier wrote a book recently on this called, "Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters."

You can listen to a talk she gave here;

I'd like to hear her talk about the fact that she didn't actually interview any of transgender adolescents she claims were not actually transgender, but just confused. Does she do that here?

SilverBear · Jan 11, 2022

JimR-OCDS said:
It's driven by the LGBTQ community to make their life styles as morally equivalent to
heterosexual relationships and marriage.

When Vermont passed a civil union law, the gay community rejected it. They wanted the right
to be married just as heterosexual couples were. In other words, having the legal and economic rights were not acceptable. They wanted society to accept same-sex marriages as the same
moral equivalent as heterosexual marriages.

They should have been happy they were allowed to sit in the back of the bus.

Unqualified · Jan 11, 2022

JimR-OCDS said:
It's driven by the LGBTQ community to make their life styles as morally equivalent to
heterosexual relationships and marriage.

When Vermont passed a civil union law, the gay community rejected it. They wanted the right
to be married just as heterosexual couples were. In other words, having the legal and economic rights were not acceptable. They wanted society to accept same-sex marriages as the same
moral equivalent as heterosexual marriages.

society and now God

SkyWriting · Jan 11, 2022

JimR-OCDS said:
Either way, I understand that homosexuals can be in a close loving relationship with
a person of the same gender. However that union does not make it a marriage, which
can only exist between a woman and a man. They can call it whatever they want, but
homosexuals will never be able to procreate, which is the primary purpose of marriage.
Not the only purpose, but the primary one.

There are no marriage requirements in scripture, no mention that the church should be involved, no marriage ceremonies listed, no requirements for marriage officials, and no requirements for marriage participants. Most important, Jews already had match makers so requiring the church to pick marriage partners would have been a very easy request for God. Very easy.

SilverBear · Jan 12, 2022

FountainTurtles32 said:
If we look at first glance it looks like what its obviously about.

The Lord denying his own sheep while being favorable to or favoring the LGBT sheep.

aren't they both his sheep?

Unqualified · Jan 12, 2022

Looks like some people are pretty deceived. Traditional marriage has always been between a man and a woman, since Adam and Eve.

Jermayn · Jan 12, 2022

SilverBear said:
aren't they both his sheep?

No....The one draped with the gay pride flag is not.

JimR-OCDS · Jan 12, 2022

SkyWriting said:
There are no marriage requirements in scripture, no mention that the church should be involved, no marriage ceremonies listed, no requirements for marriage officials, and no requirements for marriage participants. Most important, Jews already had match makers so requiring the church to pick marriage partners would have been a very easy request for God. Very easy.

Marriage is throughout Scripture in both the Old Testament and New Testament.
Here's just a couple of examples.

Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. Genisis 2:24

“Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” Ephesians 5:31

This is what marriage is. The two become one and the primary purpose is to procreate.

Even if you don't believe in the Bible, the law of nature remains and that a man and
woman join to procreate. No where on earth is it different for the various cultures.
Homosexuals are incapable of procreating.

SilverBear · Jan 12, 2022

Jermayn said:
No....The one draped with the gay pride flag is not.

and yet it is the sheep expressing hate that has separated himself from Jesus.

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