What is the law of Christ and what is fruit to God ?

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If we go back 2000 years, what would Israel say ?

The same as they say and do till this day.

They are not humbled until this day, as that is what is required first....



Jeremiah 44:10 They are not humbled even unto this day, neither have they feared, nor walked in my law, nor in my statutes, that I set before you and before your fathers.




Instead of doing, as we see all he words and examples of the Apostles, the people who talk, decide that talk is all they need to do, and ignore the doing parts?


Paul explains ( against Israels way of no faith in the Messiah) how it is not by our own righteousness ( not believed in as they are no humbled until this day)

The law teaches us, our own righteousness ( it is pride for them then)

What else explains all the disputing they did with Christ and how that disputing is still done till this day by them ?

Is it any wonder that Jesus pointed out to the rich Jewish man that to have treasure in heaven was by giving away all he owned ( and loved) and of course it is famous how rich people in society very much include Jewish people ( Banks, also in the making of films etc).

So far away then ( in faith) is the way of Christ against these ways of man.

Israel is fast to maintain their law ( as seen in them against Christ) but how many can give away their precious wealth and heir lives to serve and find God as told below..



Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.



How can anyone understand the law of Christ then, when the law of Moses taught pride, wealth, hatred, and death, death for all who did not continue in the curse, by being pretenders in a law nobody ever kept.

They wanted the law to continue ( and want the law kept now in their partial way) by wanting circumcision on the Gentiles. Circumcision is not in their pride to have glory of men in the flesh, it is in the heart only to God.

They want division of what to eat maintained. Hey denied preaching and warning the Gentiles that way, as the Gentiles were cleansed so all is clean.

They want the sabbath kept, by Jesus, but man was made under a curse, and part of that curse was the sabbath keeping, was all that was the law.

Christ freed us from the curse of the law, freed us from the law, and Jesus nailed the curses to His tree, this is to rightly divide the word of truth, as all Jesus did in the law ended then ( the accusations in the law were nailed to the cross and the law is taken away to establish the second right then, as Gods will is the sacrifice of Christ to establish faith)

Fruit is done when the corn of wheat fell into the ground and died, the law taught men to fear death and that they will die. Faith teaches instead to not fear and to believe that Christ rose form the dead( this takes your fear of death away if you understand me, so that you now can bear the same fruit to God)




Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.




John 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.




Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Hebrews 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
 

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The sabbath was made for man, as man had to be stopped from doing his own pleasure, for one day.



Isaiah 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:




Now the man is not for the sabbath, as the man follows Christ, who do not His own pleasure on Any day..



John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Romans 15:We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.




It cant be any clearer, to deny that God has cleansed all ( animals and people) is to deny Christ cleaned us through the washing of regeneration. But that was ( and is) what the Jews did ( and do)




Matthew 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

1 Timothy 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


1 Thessalonians 2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
 
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These scripture you posted

The sabbath was made for man, as man had to be stopped from doing his own pleasure, for one day.



Isaiah 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:


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Does not match your commentary, in fact is says the exact opposite.


Now the man is not for the sabbath, as the man follows Christ, who do not His own pleasure on Any day..

The bible tells us not to add our words to God's words. Proverbs 30:6

This is God's Word, written by His own finger Exodus 20:8-11 which Jesus said was made for man Mark 2:27 and man was made on the sixth day Genesis 1:26 right before the very first Sabbath. Genesis 2:1-3 If man follows Christ like we should, they would be keeping the Sabbath just like Jesus did as our example. Luke 4:16, John 15:10

We should not replace our will, with God's will and Jesus gives us this exact warning. We should obey commandments of God which is Sabbath-keeping Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 34:28 over the traditions made by man, which is Sunday keeping (no commandment). Matthew 15:3-9 Your argument appears to be with our Most High.
 
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What is the law of Christ and what is fruit to God ?

The law of Christ is Matthew 22:37-40 which is the fulfillment of the OT law "and any other commandment there may be" (Romans 13:8-10).

The fruit of God is faithfulness to the law of Christ above.
 
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God said:Exodus 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. This was written by the finger of God right in the Ten commandments.

Jesus repeats verbatim John 14:15. If you love Me, keep My commandments

The law of God is the law of Christ because God is Jesus and they are One. Jesus did not come to contradict God, He came to do and teach through example the will of God. John 6:38

The handwritten law God wrote was placed in the ark of the Covenant in the Most Holy of God’s Temple that is also revealed in Heaven Revelation 11:19. The Ten Commandments are God’s eternal laws which stands forever. Psalms 111:9

God’s law which of course include the Ten Commandments is now written in our hearts and minds. Jer 31:31-33, Hebrews 8:10. They are written in our hearts because we obey out of love. John 14:15, John 15:10, 1 John 5:3. They are written in our minds so we remember to DO them. James 1:22, Romans 2:13, Revelation 22:14

The law brings us to Christ through our obedience Galatians 3:24 because that is how Jesus knows us, though our obedience Matthew 7:23, 1 John 2:4 and we no longer need a tutor once brought to Christ because we are given the Holy Spirit when we obey John 14:15-18, Acts 5:32 When we walk in the Spirit we are obeying the law of God. If you find yourself breaking the law of God (sinning 1 John 3:4, Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7, James 2:10-12) you are not in the spirit. That spirit does not come from God. 1 John 3:8, Isaiah 8:20

Matthew 22:37-40 And Romans 13:8-12 establish the law of love that is expressed though our obedience to God’s law. Sin separates us from God, obeying unites us and gives us peace. We show love to our neighbor when we do them no harm- like stealing, bearing false witness, murder, adultery- these express the opposite of love and the same with not worshipping other gods (placing anything above God) not bowing to idols, breaking the holy day of the Lord thy God or vain His precious name. Doing these things show the opposite of love, according to God. John 14:15, Exodus 20:6

We do not keep the commandments of God to be saved, we keep them because we love and this is how Jesus knows us. This is a fruit of our faith which establishes the law. Romans 3:31 We should teach each other to keep the commandments and there are warning for those who teach others to break them Matthew 5:19



The law of God is not meant to be burdensome 1 John 5:3 and we can obey when we walk with and follow Jesus, who is our greatest example.

God bless
 
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If we go back 2000 years, what would Israel say ?

The same as they say and do till this day.

They are not humbled until this day, as that is what is required first....



Jeremiah 44:10 They are not humbled even unto this day, neither have they feared, nor walked in my law, nor in my statutes, that I set before you and before your fathers.




Instead of doing, as we see all he words and examples of the Apostles, the people who talk, decide that talk is all they need to do, and ignore the doing parts?


Paul explains ( against Israels way of no faith in the Messiah) how it is not by our own righteousness ( not believed in as they are no humbled until this day)

The law teaches us, our own righteousness ( it is pride for them then)

What else explains all the disputing they did with Christ and how that disputing is still done till this day by them ?

Is it any wonder that Jesus pointed out to the rich Jewish man that to have treasure in heaven was by giving away all he owned ( and loved) and of course it is famous how rich people in society very much include Jewish people ( Banks, also in the making of films etc).

So far away then ( in faith) is the way of Christ against these ways of man.

Israel is fast to maintain their law ( as seen in them against Christ) but how many can give away their precious wealth and heir lives to serve and find God as told below..



Philippians 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.



How can anyone understand the law of Christ then, when the law of Moses taught pride, wealth, hatred, and death, death for all who did not continue in the curse, by being pretenders in a law nobody ever kept.

They wanted the law to continue ( and want the law kept now in their partial way) by wanting circumcision on the Gentiles. Circumcision is not in their pride to have glory of men in the flesh, it is in the heart only to God.

They want division of what to eat maintained. Hey denied preaching and warning the Gentiles that way, as the Gentiles were cleansed so all is clean.

They want the sabbath kept, by Jesus, but man was made under a curse, and part of that curse was the sabbath keeping, was all that was the law.

Christ freed us from the curse of the law, freed us from the law, and Jesus nailed the curses to His tree, this is to rightly divide the word of truth, as all Jesus did in the law ended then ( the accusations in the law were nailed to the cross and the law is taken away to establish the second right then, as Gods will is the sacrifice of Christ to establish faith)

Fruit is done when the corn of wheat fell into the ground and died, the law taught men to fear death and that they will die. Faith teaches instead to not fear and to believe that Christ rose form the dead( this takes your fear of death away if you understand me, so that you now can bear the same fruit to God)




Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Hebrews 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.




John 15:8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.




Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Hebrews 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
The law of Christ is love and the fruit of Christ is love. And love obeys and acts, by its nature: for the good of others, in fulfilling the law, in dispelling fear, in worshiping God in Spirit and in truth, etc.
 
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The law of Christ is remembrance of God in mercy to Israel, and it is remembrance of the ways of the Holy Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ, in knowledge of salvation by the remission of their sins, the answer of a good conscience by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
 
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