Let's talk about separate bathrooms

coffee4u · Jan 3, 2022

ThatRobGuy said:
That would explain the couches...why don't we get a couch?

(start at the 1-minute mark lol)

Exactly, it is our secret interplanetary meeting space so guys can stay out.

coffee4u · Jan 3, 2022

Mayzoo said:
Yeah, then fathers can actually go out with their special needs daughters in public alone without being called a pervert. Wouldn't that be nice?

They already can here, its called the parenting room.

ThatRobGuy · Jan 3, 2022

coffee4u said:
Exactly, it is our secret interplanetary meeting space so guys can stay out.

You mark my words...I'm going to take that couch

Mayzoo · Jan 3, 2022

coffee4u said:
They already can here, its called the parenting room.

So, in roughly less than 5% of facilities (in my experience, in the US), a father can take his special needs daughter out alone.

I am glad you have better access there.

coffee4u · Jan 3, 2022

Mayzoo said:
So, in roughly less than 5% of facilities (in my experience, in the US), a father can take his special needs daughter out alone.

I am glad you have better access there.

From what I have heard (talking to US friends that I have) when they mentioned changing a nappy/diaper out in the car and I said why don't you use the parenting rooms they didn't know what that was. I think in general the US is a lot less friendly towards kids and families.

rjs330 · Jan 3, 2022

ThatRobGuy said:
A) Not every place has them. Some places like malls and certain stores have them, but there's more places that don't

B) Who gets to decide what the "cut-off" is in terms of "looking close enough like the target gender"? What about the people, who despite going through years of hormone intervention and multiple surgeries, never quite get to that status of "easily passing as that gender"?

Some people are lucky enough (like the examples I posted) to be be able to pull it off and nobody would know. Others (like Caitlyn Jenner) can afford the best surgeons and all of the hormones money can buy, and still can't fully get to a point where "nobody can tell".

As I've touched on in other threads, this is one of those tricky subjects where there's not an easy answer for it... apart from just having gender-neutral facilities across the board for everything and scrapping the gendered facilities.

Then I think we should get them.

Scrapping the gendered bathrooms is nothing more than throwing the baby out with the bathwater. If you really look like a girl and we can't tell the difference then use the girls bathroom. If you look like a dude then use the boys bathroom. Thats the way it's been. No need to change it now.

rjs330 · Jan 3, 2022

High Fidelity said:
I don't see what difference it makes. I work in hospitals and I've never seen separated toilets.

That's because they pretty much have single use toilets. I doubt you have toilets with multiple stalls and urinals where men and women go at the SAME TIME.

rjs330 · Jan 3, 2022

Mayzoo said:
Plenty of people on here (over the years I have been reading this subject) have stated they do not care what the person looks like, they should "use the restroom of the birth sex". Peruse this thread and you will likely find one.

I get this and I agree they should. However, it's quite impractical since I doubt anyone is going to standing at the doors checking genitalia.

Since transgender isn't new we've probably had transgenders using the bathrooms of their chosen sex. And we probably didn't know about it it cause they looked like the same saex as those using the bathroom.

Women are not going to be freaked out if someone comes in who looks just like them and uses the bathroom. But if you look like a dude they shouldn't have to put up with that.

rjs330 · Jan 3, 2022

coffee4u said:
From what I have heard (talking to US friends that I have) when they mentioned changing a nappy/diaper out in the car and I said why don't you use the parenting rooms they didn't know what that was. I think in general the US is a lot less friendly towards kids and families.

That's kinda wired. Cause really in most places anymore there is a changing table in the bathrooms for babies. Maybe not is the older smaller stores, but if that's the case they probably don't have one in the women's or men's restroom. I live in a relatively small town and have had six kids here. I never had much if a problem changing a diaper in a bathroom.

coffee4u · Jan 3, 2022

rjs330 said:
That's kinda wired. Cause really in most places anymore there is a changing table in the bathrooms for babies. Maybe not is the older smaller stores, but if that's the case they probably don't have one in the women's or men's restroom. I live in a relatively small town and have had six kids here. I never had much if a problem changing a diaper in a bathroom.

That's not a parenting room, although that would be a start.

A parenting room can range in size and facilities provided, the larger the centre that larger the facilities. Generally though the parenting room is next to the male and female bathrooms. It has a symbol of a baby on the door and inside you may find a changing area, a playpen set up, a separate lockable bathroom with both a full size and child size toilet. It may also have another area behind a curtain for feeding with a microwave. Dispensers with nappies and wipes that can be bought. Larger ones use to have an attendant as well. This is how they were when my kids were small, been some years since I looked into one.

Some are basic and others are swish.

RDKirk · Jan 3, 2022

coffee4u said:
That's not a parenting room, although that would be a start.

A parenting room can range in size and facilities provided, the larger the centre that larger the facilities. Generally though the parenting room is next to the male and female bathrooms. It has a symbol of a baby on the door and inside you may find a changing area, a playpen set up, a separate lockable bathroom with both a full size and child size toilet. It may also have another area behind a curtain for feeding with a microwave. Dispensers with nappies and wipes that can be bought. Larger ones use to have an attendant as well. This is how they were when my kids were small, been some years since I looked into one.

Some are basic and others are swish.

Only place I've seen something like that is Ikea.

coffee4u · Jan 3, 2022

RDKirk said:
Only place I've seen something like that is Ikea.

That's a Western Sydney shopping centre, but its listed as one of the top ranked.

rjs330 · Jan 4, 2022

coffee4u said:
That's not a parenting room, although that would be a start.

A parenting room can range in size and facilities provided, the larger the centre that larger the facilities. Generally though the parenting room is next to the male and female bathrooms. It has a symbol of a baby on the door and inside you may find a changing area, a playpen set up, a separate lockable bathroom with both a full size and child size toilet. It may also have another area behind a curtain for feeding with a microwave. Dispensers with nappies and wipes that can be bought. Larger ones use to have an attendant as well. This is how they were when my kids were small, been some years since I looked into one.

Some are basic and others are swish.

A parenting room like that is quite an expense. And businesses are under no.obligation to create one. Parents can bring their own diapers, wipes.and whatever else is needed just like they always have done. It's called parenting and all is put in a diaper bag. All they need is a place to change the baby. And they can do it in a bathroom. A changing table is good enough and I've seen them all over.

comana · Jan 5, 2022

rjs330 said:
A parenting room like that is quite an expense. And businesses are under no.obligation to create one. Parents can bring their own diapers, wipes.and whatever else is needed just like they always have done. It's called parenting and all is put in a diaper bag. All they need is a place to change the baby. And they can do it in a bathroom. A changing table is good enough and I've seen them all over.

A parenting room would be wonderful. Changing your infant on a rickety changing table while trying to wrangle your toddler in a restroom is not a great experience. More businesses should consider a pleasant, clean, safe space to change a baby where parents don’t have to worry about what their other small children in tow are getting into.

High Fidelity · Jan 5, 2022

rjs330 said:
That's because they pretty much have single use toilets. I doubt you have toilets with multiple stalls and urinals where men and women go at the SAME TIME.

No, they're all stalls with toilets in. No urinals.

Urinals aren't necessary.

RDKirk · Jan 5, 2022

High Fidelity said:
No, they're all stalls with toilets in. No urinals.

Urinals aren't necessary.

Well, women claim to men that they despise going into a stall after a man.

OTOH, some of the things my wife and daughter tell me about what they see in women's stalls is positively nauseating with whole additional categories of nastiness.

wing2000 · Jan 5, 2022

RDKirk said:
Well, women claim to men that they despise going into a stall after a man.

....as my wife regularly reminds me

. I often wonder why urinals are not in our homes (use less water and contain the splash factor).

rjs330 · Jan 5, 2022

comana said:
A parenting room would be wonderful. Changing your infant on a rickety changing table while trying to wrangle your toddler in a restroom is not a great experience. More businesses should consider a pleasant, clean, safe space to change a baby where parents don’t have to worry about what their other small children in tow are getting into.

Oh I don't doubt it. And if someplace want to build those in, it would be great. I just hope people aren't demanding businesses do this and require some sort of regulation to make it happen.

rjs330 · Jan 5, 2022

High Fidelity said:
No, they're all stalls with toilets in. No urinals.

Urinals aren't necessary.

Okay, but are they places where men and women go to at the same time? Men in one stall and a woman next to him both doing their duty at the same time?

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Jan 5, 2022

mama2one said:
many places already have 3 bathrooms @Neogaia777 - such as at malls & at church

the third bathroom is the "Family" bathroom for parents with small children

I use family bathrooms. Because I like my privacy and looked doors.

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