My Big Bang Challenge

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

Subduction Zone said:
The photograph I posted shows a land form that took millions of years to form. How could a flood have made it?

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
It's a miracle?

Yup.

VirOptimus · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Yup.

Like when Jesus turned water into wine?

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

VirOptimus said:
Like when Jesus turned water into wine?

Yes indeed.

VirOptimus · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Yes indeed.

But you reject that, you say he turned it into grape juice.

Mr Laurier · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Then I'll go ahead and call it what he called it: Primordial Atom.

As long as you remember that it was not an actual atom.
It had no nucleus. No electrons or protons. None of the things that make an atom.
Chinese infantrymen from the western highlands call artillery tractors "oxen".

Mr Laurier · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Why didn't the Mississippi River do the same thing?

Age... or the lack of it.
Terrain.

inquiring mind · Jan 2, 2022

VirOptimus said:
But you reject that, you say he turned it into grape juice.

Non-Alcoholic Wine

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

Mr Laurier said:
As long as you remember that it was not an actual atom.

Okay ... will do.

Mr Laurier · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Grand Canyon = allegedly 70,000,000 years old
Mississippi River = allegedly 70,000,000 year old

Nope.
Mississippi River= allegedly a few tens of thousands of years old.

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

Mr Laurier said:
Age... or the lack of it.

Even though they're both the same age?

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

Mr Laurier said:
Nope.
Mississippi River= allegedly a few tens of thousands of years old.

Did you read the link?

That's yesterday's science.

Mr Laurier · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Even though they're both the same age?

given that they are not the same age.

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

Mr Laurier said:
given that they are not the same age.

Given that they are.

VirOptimus · Jan 2, 2022

inquiring mind said:
Non-Alcoholic Wine

Grape juice is not non-alcoholic wine.

inquiring mind · Jan 2, 2022

Mr Laurier said:
As long as you remember that it was not an actual atom.
It had no nucleus. No electrons or protons. None of the things that make an atom.
Chinese infantrymen from the western highlands call artillery tractors "oxen".

And, a wet crow never flies at night.

Mr Laurier · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Given that they are.

you have made up your mind on this. And no fact will ever be allowed to challenge your decision.

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

inquiring mind said:
And, a wet crow never flies at night.

He and I have been over this before.

More than once, I think.

Unfermented wine is a historic product.

SOURCE

I love posting from links that have "edu" in them; then watching them deny their own science.

AV1611VET · Jan 2, 2022

Mr Laurier said:
you have made up your mind on this. And no fact will ever be allowed to challenge your decision.

You'll do the same with the facts I posted in Post 188 too, won't you?

VirOptimus · Jan 2, 2022

AV1611VET said:
He and I have been over this before.

More than once, I think.

SOURCE

I love posting from links that have "edu" in them; then watching them deny their own science.

Unfermented grape juice is a recent invention.

But either way, thw bible says wine, not grape juice. Its just your biased idea that inserts something that isnt there.

Hans Blaster · Jan 2, 2022

inquiring mind said:
I don’t get your reasoning at all, even if you don’t believe the bible. When PhDs and scientists look at any situation in mainstream science, and say, wait a minute this doesn’t look right or there could be another answer, they are immediately rejected and labeled liars, quacks, etc. It’s like you’ve been tranced… reject the bible, its not science, don’t even consider it, assault it, you know it doesn’t make sense, it couldn’t happen, don’t listen. When someone even mentions the possibility of the Grand Canyon being caused by a flood, you ignore the power that could have been released on a global scale, yet accepting it regarding plate tectonics, and talk about any suggestion of flooding as if it could have only been on a local scale and in terms of rainwater run-off, and therefore not a possibility. How much clearer could Genesis 7:11 (In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.) be? As I said, even if you don't believe it, it was written in an untripping, short term, earth-altering way which brings PhD's at odds even today.

I'm not sure who these "PhDs and scientists you speak of are, but there are some other general problems with your statement.

1. Not all PhDs are scientists. PhDs are issued in a wide variety of fields from history to engineering to literature to sociology that aren't science. I think you were looking for the term "PhD scientists".

2. Not all PhD scientists are doing anything about or have expertise in fields related to this geology (or any other possible C/E topic). They study semiconductors and mangrove swamps, pulsating stars and ancient human fossils, develop vaccines and drugs, but they aren't geologists.

3. What you want are geologists of various kinds: seismologists, geophysicists, petrologists, volcanologists, geologists studying sedimentation, plate tectonics, erosion, etc. They are the ones that figured all of this stuff out and they overwhelmingly support the notion that the Grand Canyon was carved over millions of years and the Earth is old. Sorry, that's just the way the science works out.

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