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Jesus said in the Gospel unless we drink His blood we have no life in us, and in 1 Corinthians 11, we are to examine ourselves regarding His blood, to be worthy to drink His blood.





John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


1 Corinthians 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.




Romans now begins a series of points about this.


In Romans 1, we see the Son of God is declared, to be of power, by the resurrection of Him from the dead....



Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:




Next chapter, Romans 2, the doers shall be justified, ( not hearers only)

Now the conscience comes alive, as all of the secrets of men are judged according as the Gospel testifies.




Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.




Romans 3 next, how the prophets witnessed ( declared) the righteousness of God in the faith of Jesus Christ, to all those who believe.


Propitiation is grace, to believe in His blood, shed for the remission of sins that are past, declaring the righteousness of God, to justify the believer through the justness of God.


That is the law of faith established...



Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.





Next Romans 4 continues, how righteousness is imputed, if we believe in God raising Christ from the dead, who was delivered for our offences ( for the remission of sins that are past) and risen again for our justification ( showing faith in the risen Lord in our walk with Him)..


Romans 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.




Romans 5 continues, how we are justified by that faith ( of having the risen Lord in our faith and walk) having access by faith into His grace, to stand, to be justified by His blood ( in belief of this) to be saved from wrath through Him..



Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.





Over to Hebrews 9 and it is the conscience ( now alive as the blood speaks and is alive to us) purges us to serve the living God from dead works of the sins we are propitiated from....




Hebrews 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?





We know we have Christ risen in us who was risen again for our justification.

Then we know He was delivered for our offences, and we then are buried with Hi


m right there in baptism, which is the answer of a good conscience by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.




1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:


Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.





That is the operation of God, it is the declaration, it i the propitiation, it is the justification.

We as told, are delivered form wrath through belief in His blood, and it is all by belief and action, to be behaved, to have a conscience and examine ourselves to be worthy of drinking His blood, as the wrath of man works not the righteousness of God, so be slow to speak and quick to hear the engrafted word, by laying aside all filthiness and naughtiness, not deceiving our own selves by being hearers only ( to be justified) but to be doers of the work ( to be blessed) and bridling your tongue, or your religion it is told, is vain...



James 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

testifier_uk said:

Jesus said in the Gospel unless we drink His blood we have no life in us, and in 1 Corinthians 11, we are to examine ourselves regarding His blood, to be worthy to drink His blood.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

1 Corinthians 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

Romans now begins a series of points about this.

In Romans 1, we see the Son of God is declared, to be of power, by the resurrection of Him from the dead....

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Next chapter, Romans 2, the doers shall be justified, ( not hearers only)

Now the conscience comes alive, as all of the secrets of men are judged according as the Gospel testifies.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Romans 3 next, how the prophets witnessed ( declared) the righteousness of God in the faith of Jesus Christ, to all those who believe.

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Propitiation is grace,

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Look up the word in the dictionary. . .it is the act which satisfied God's justice on sin; i.e.,
Jesus' bloody sacrifice.
The NT teaches that trust on that act for the forgiveness of one's sin is salvation from the wrath of God on sin (Romans 5:9).
It is the grace of forgiveness only to those who apply it to themselves by faith in it (Romans 3:25).

to believe in His blood, shed for the remission of sins that are past, declaring the righteousness of God, to justify the believer through the justness of God.

That is the law of faith established...

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Next Romans 4 continues, how righteousness is imputed, if we believe in God raising Christ from the dead, who was delivered for our offences ( for the remission of sins that are past) and risen again for our justification ( showing faith in the risen Lord in our walk with Him)..

Romans 4:23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Romans 5 continues, how we are justified by that faith ( of having the risen Lord in our faith and walk) having access by faith into His grace, to stand, to be justified by His blood ( in belief of this) to be saved from wrath through Him..

Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Over to Hebrews 9 and it is the conscience ( now alive as the blood speaks and is alive to us) purges us to serve the living God from dead works of the sins we are propitiated from....

Hebrews 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

We know we have Christ risen in us who was risen again for our justification.

Then we know He was delivered for our offences, and we then are buried with Hi
m right there in baptism, which is the answer of a good conscience by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

That is the operation of God, it is the declaration, it i the propitiation, it is the justification.

We as told, are delivered form wrath through belief in His blood, and it is all by belief and action, to be behaved, to have a conscience and examine ourselves to be worthy of drinking His blood, as the wrath of man works not the righteousness of God, so be slow to speak and quick to hear the engrafted word, by laying aside all filthiness and naughtiness, not deceiving our own selves by being hearers only ( to be justified) but to be doers of the work ( to be blessed) and bridling your tongue, or your religion it is told, is vain...

James 1:19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

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Propitiation is the commandment of God on all people to repent of disbelief unto unrighteousness. ( To now believe in the righteousness of Christ)

Because God will judge the world in righteousness, by Jesus Christ (Ordained for this purpose). ( Now required to believe unto righteousness in the heart.....Romans 10:10)



Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but NOW COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERY WHERE TO REPENT:
31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which HE WILL JUDGE THE WORLD IN RIGHTEOUSNESS by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.



The gift of righteousness is by believing in the OBEDIENCE OF CHRIST, TO BE MADE RIGHTEOUS ( EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.)



Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they WHICH RECEIVE ABUNDANCE OF GRACE AND OF THE GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so BY THE OBEDIENCE OF ONE SHALL MANY BE MADE RIGHTEOUS.

1 John 3:7 Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU, HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.




The righteousness of Christ is to be believed in ( in the heart man believes unto righteousness)

Then the heart is believing justly in Christ, and then Christ justly justifies the ones who righteously believe in Jesus.


Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.




Moving on from Romans to 2 Corinthians. Repentance is to salvation when it is not to be repented of.

Sorrow to a godly sort, clearing of ourselves, in fear, in zeal, desire for God.




2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

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Propitiation is the commandment of God on all people to repent of disbelief unto unrighteousness. ( To now believe in the righteousness of Christ)

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Propitiation is not a commandment, it is the atoning sacrifice of Christ (Romans 3:25).

Because God will judge the world in righteousness, by Jesus Christ (Ordained for this purpose). ( Now required to believe unto righteousness in the heart.....Romans 10:10)

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but NOW COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERY WHERE TO REPENT:

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31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which HE WILL JUDGE THE WORLD IN RIGHTEOUSNESS by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
The gift of righteousness is by believing in the OBEDIENCE OF CHRIST, TO BE MADE RIGHTEOUS ( EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.)

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The gift of righteousness is by believing in the bloody sacrifice of Christ (Romans 3:25) to pay the penalty for your sin.

Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they WHICH RECEIVE ABUNDANCE OF GRACE AND OF THE GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so BY THE OBEDIENCE OF ONE SHALL MANY BE MADE RIGHTEOUS.

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The Greek reads: ". . .as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men (of Adam),
so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men (of Christ)." (Romans 5:18)

It's both one act and one trespass of one person, each--one person condemning, the other person justifying, each by a single act.

We are justified by the one act of obedience to death on the cross.

1 John 3:7 Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU, HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.
The righteousness of Christ is to be believed in ( in the heart man believes unto righteousness)
Then the heart is believing justly in Christ, and then Christ justly justifies the ones who righteously believe in Jesus.
Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,

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that is: payment of sin through one's faith in his blood (sacrifice).

to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

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God showing himself righteous/just by requiring payment for the sin of the OT saints, which was overlooked in anticipation of the cross to pay for them.

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

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God shows himself righteous/just by requiring payment for current sin in the NT.

God is both the one who requires payment for sin (just) and
the one who provides payment (Romans 3:25) for sin (justifier),
by giving his one and only Son to pay for it.

Propitiation is completely accomplished.
It remains only to be applied to the individual by faith in it (Romans 3:25) for the remission of his win.

Clare thinks... "Propitiation is not a commandment"


The first we read is that God does indeed command all men everywhere to repent.

After this, after acknowledging that commandment of God (for all men everywhere to repent) then it is understood ( read it) that the things the Apostles write to us are the commandments of the Lord, and the Apostles wrote to us that we sin not ( commanded us to sin not) and we have that advocate to give us propitiation for our sins, for the sins of the whole world) to all who repent of their sins, and the forgiveness in propitiation is first dependent on repentance from our sins, (otherwise the commandment to repent would be told for no purpose) and after this the commandment of God also is to sin no more ( as Jesus has already told for us to see and believe in, in the Gospel)



Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but NOW COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERY WHERE TO REPENT:

1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Christian7777777 said:

Clare thinks... "Propitiation is not a commandment"


The first we read is that God does indeed command all men everywhere to repent.

After this, after acknowledging that commandment of God (for all men everywhere to repent) then it is understood ( read it) that the things the Apostles write to us are the commandments of the Lord, and the Apostles wrote to us that we sin not ( commanded us to sin not) and we have that advocate to give us propitiation for our sins, for the sins of the whole world) to all who repent of their sins, and the forgiveness in propitiation is first dependent on repentance from our sins, (otherwise the commandment to repent would be told for no purpose) and after this the commandment of God also is to sin no more ( as Jesus has already told for us to see and believe in, in the Gospel)



Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but NOW COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERY WHERE TO REPENT:

1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

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Have you looked up the definition of "propitiation" to see where the problem is?

Jesus Christ is the propitiation for our sins and for the sins of the whole world.


This is repeated again in Romans 5:18, that the free gift came upon ALL MEN unto justification of life...



Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.



Also to benefit from that propitiation, it is by the acknowledging of the commandment for those ( ALL MEN) everywhere to repent, Acts 17:30.



Here is a reminder for you that we repent ( it is the commandment of God) and also to be baptized ( every one of you) in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins ( for Christ to be our advocate and the propitiation for our sins) and that is then the gift of the Holy Ghost to be received.




Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.




Then righteousness is imputed to them that believe, believing righteously that God raised up Jesus Christ our Lord from the dead, our offences( sin) buried with Him in baptism ( through repentance) and living as those alive from the dead with Christ for our justification..


Romans 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Romans 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.




If you notice, repentance is a commandment, and also baptism is a commandment( in faith to receive propitiation as part of those commandments in faith)



Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Romans 6:43 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Faith cant be looked up in dictionaries, or concordances, it has to be looked u in our heart and up to Heaven.

It is in Heaven that we look for the Lord Jesus Christ, not on earth in earthly dictionaries and concordances of men.


Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Propitiation is part of a process, of commandment from God to repent and to be baptized. ( buried the offences in baptism which also is the repentance.)

Then part of that commandment they write to us is to sin not, and we believe in this when we behave as those alive from the dead ( in righteousness)

Jesus was dead for three days in the heart of the earth, then we see time is there for us to be alive with Christ from the dead, after we have repented and are baptized unto His death. ( space given to repent)

Now to have faith it is told how, to learn and be taught of the Father ( not of men) it is not something seen, all we see is temporal, so we do not look here on earth for that instruction ( in righteousness from God to believe in) as faith is what is not seen. ( blessed when the Father in Heaven reveals it to us)..


John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Christian7777777 said:

Now to have faith it is told how, to learn and be taught of the Father ( not of men) it is not something seen, all we see is temporal, so we do not look here on earth for that instruction ( in righteousness from God to believe in) as faith is what is not seen. ( blessed when the Father in Heaven reveals it to us)..


John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

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So what is the meaning of the word "propitiation" used in the NT?

Words have meaning, and the word "propitiation" is used because of its meaning.
So what is its meaning?

All meanings are spiritual:




John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

Look to what God commands to be done, repent and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.

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All meanings are spiritual:

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Who made that rule?

Spiritual meanings can still be expressed in words or they wouldn't be spiritual meanings.

The NT is spiritual, but it is also words.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

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It was told that it is spoken in the words which the Holy Ghost teaches.

Not spoken in the words that man uses in his wisdom ( of this world)



1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Then as told, to understand all these spiritual teachings of God,. the Spirit is what teaches us ( the Holy Ghost.

It is not contained in what mans wisdom teaches, it cant be understood by the wisdom of this world ( as it is without the Holy Ghost, and the Spirit is what is being taught in the words, and the Spirit is required to understand them then.


John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Christ is the living word, made flesh, then we know Him no more after the flesh ( as the Spirit teaches after Christ shed the Holy Ghost ion us ( by us believing in Him rising from the dead for our sins, to be buried in baptism and the faith of the operation of God is Him being risen in righteousness.





John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.


Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Christian7777777 said:

It was told that it is spoken in the words which the Holy Ghost teaches.

Not spoken in the words that man uses in his wisdom ( of this world)

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It's still a word, and it still has a meaning, which is why the Holy Spirit chose the word. . .so what is its meaning?

1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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The meaning is to look to what is commanded by God, to repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and to be as those alive from the dead with Jesus Christ is to sin no more.