First omicron Covid case in U.S.---and it's a fully vaxxed person

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The world population is being forced and squeezed into accepting the vaccination in a very undemocratic and frightening manner.

Countries are getting ready to fine people if they dont take the jab! Also, stopping them from going about day to day business.

The world has gone bonkers!

The world has moved away from faith in God. In trusting God.

Man made Covid and man made vaccines are part of an agenda. Its all about controlling the population of the world.

So many have been sucked into the lies of the governments and the media.

I for one will not be forced into taking a concoction of drugs. Nope.

Trust in God.
 
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You know so much about me! Surely if you know all that, you know my middle name?
There is no need to know that.

The question that you should be asking yourself is why are you so afraid? You may not be at risk, but I am pretty sure that there are some people near and dear to you somewhere that are. The reason that even those not at risk need to get vaccinated is to protect those people that are at risk. Your parents or even grandparents are put at risk by those that do not follow proper viral protocols.

I do not want to see others die. The death rate on average for this virus is over 2%, but that rate is much larger for older people and smaller for younger people. I am not ready to send granny packing off of this Earth yet. How about you?
 
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The world population is being forced and squeezed into accepting the vaccination in a very undemocratic and frightening manner.

Countries are getting ready to fine people if they dont take the jab! Also, stopping them from going about day to day business.

The world has gone bonkers!

The world has moved away from faith in God. In trusting God.

Man made Covid and man made vaccines are part of an agenda. Its all about controlling the population of the world.

So many have been sucked into the lies of the governments and the media.

I for one will not be forced into taking a concoction of drugs. Nope.

Trust in God.
Can you support your claims about "Lies"? If not it looks as if you just broke the Ninth Commandment.
 
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I’m willing to bet most people got vaccinated, no questions asked. I’m thinking people trusted doctors more when there wasn’t a 24 hour disinformation campaign in their faces all the time.

You mean a campaign that encouraged people to actually start asking questions? Oh, the horror! How dare anyone question doctors rather than taking medications with no questions asked!
 
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LOL! Amazingly wrong again. It actually did. It showed how the Heart Association itself realized that it may have been a bogus claim. And I showed that it was not technically an "abstract" since the article was not peer reviewed and appears to have serious problems. In other words the article appears to be unsupported garbage.

Let me try to help you out. The best sources are going to be well respected professional peer reviewed scientific journals. Unfortunately you will not be able to read these without a subscription. But there are reliable sources that will quote them. Open access journals tend not to be as reliable. One has to be careful because some of them are pure "pay to publish". If someone pays them they will publish anything. You can check the Impact Factor of various journals to see if other scientists give them any credence at all.

Now you're not even posting links to any sources, which equals admitting you don't have any.
 
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Can you support your claims about "Lies"? If not it looks as if you just broke the Ninth Commandment.

As you can see, very few people here are agreeing with you. Take it as a hint to become more informed about that which you post.
 
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Now you're not even posting links to any sources, which equals admitting you don't have any.
You really do not know how this works. Your error was so gross that no sources were needed. They were already given. But when you do not understand something you can always ask for more information. If you can do it properly.

You are constantly shown to be wrong. Why not slow down, read the sources that are posted to you and ask questions about them when you do not understand. I know that when someone does not understand something that the Dunning Kruger effect can be very very strong. Don't strive to make it personal. Take the opportunity to learn from others instead.
 
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As you can see, very few people here are agreeing with you. Take it as a hint to become more informed about that which you post.
Please, this site is loaded with science deniers. That there are those that disagree with me, and have no understanding of the sciences at all, is a good sign. If those that understood the sciences disagreed with me I would be worried.
 
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... is why I'm still engaging with you

No, there is a very good reason for that. I can properly support my claims and even help you to do that same. You can profit by learning how to debate properly, even though you will lose this debate you might win your next one with techniques learned here.
 
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No, there is a very good reason for that. I can properly support my claims and even help you to do that same. You can profit by learning how to debate properly, even though you will lose this debate you might win your next one with techniques learned here.

Well that's mighty generous of you ... narcissistic much?

But ... if you're sincere I have an idea. Why don't you argue my case for me? I think that's the best way I can learn. Take your time.
 
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The world population is being forced and squeezed into accepting the vaccination in a very undemocratic and frightening manner.

Countries are getting ready to fine people if they dont take the jab! Also, stopping them from going about day to day business.

The world has gone bonkers!

The world has moved away from faith in God. In trusting God.

Man made Covid and man made vaccines are part of an agenda. Its all about controlling the population of the world.

So many have been sucked into the lies of the governments and the media.

I for one will not be forced into taking a concoction of drugs. Nope.

Trust in God.
I can appreciate your lack of interest in medication that might affect your neurological system.
 
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Well that's mighty generous of you ... narcissistic much?

But ... if you're sincere I have an idea. Why don't you argue my case for me? I think that's the best way I can learn. Take your time.
You really have no case. You already showed that. There is no "debating" at this point in time. There is only correction. And no, it is not narcissistic to want others to learn. Again, this appears to be projection on your part since you lack an understanding of the topic and think that your bogus sites prove your points for you.

Once again, find reliable sources and you are much less likely to go wrong.
 
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A short, interesting video which speaks the truth about what is happening.
How would you know that it is the truth? Just because it agrees with you does not make it right. Were there claims put through peer review? By the way the claim that Robert Malone "invented" the mRNA vaccine has been debunked. He had a hand in its early development, but in no way is he justified in such a bold claim. When your source relies upon a dishonest person that overplays his own part in something. Robert Malone discovered a way to enter mRNA into a cell where it would go on to make a protein. But that is only one small part of inventing a vaccine. It is comparable to the person the inventing the drivetrain to claim that he invented the car. He would have had a sizable hand in it, but he could not claim to be the sole inventor.


You might want to read more about him here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science...lone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/

Perhaps he is a bit antagonistic to the vaccine because it was developed to late for him:

"His concerns are personal, too. Malone contracted COVID-19 in February 2020, and later got the Moderna vaccine in hopes that it would alleviate his long-haul symptoms. Now he believes the injections made his symptoms worse: He still has a cough and is dealing with hypertension and reduced stamina, among other maladies. “My body will never be the same,” he told me. In media appearances, he often notes that he has colleagues in the government and at universities who agree with him and are privately cheering him on. I spoke with several of these people—vaccine scientists and biotech consultants, suggested by Malone himself— and that is not what they told me. The portrait they paint of Malone is of an insightful researcher who can be headstrong. They related accounts of him, pre-pandemic, getting booted from projects because he was hard to communicate with and unwilling to compromise. (Malone has acknowledged his penchant for butting heads with fellow scientists.) And they are taken aback by his emergence as a vaccine skeptic. One called his eagerness to appear on less-than-reputable podcasts “naive,” while another said he thought Malone’s public rhetoric had “migrated from extrapolated assertions to sensational assertions.” Stan Gromkowski, a cellular immunologist who did work on mRNA vaccines in the early 1990s and views Malone as an underappreciated pioneer, put it this way: “He’s (deleted) up his chances for a Nobel Prize.”

According to the very scientists that he said that supported him he overstates his case.

Does he deserve recognition? I would say yes. But he has ruined any chance of getting a Nobel for his work by overstating his case and spreading disinformation.
 
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You really do not know how this works. Your error was so gross that no sources were needed. They were already given. But when you do not understand something you can always ask for more information. If you can do it properly.

You are constantly shown to be wrong. Why not slow down, read the sources that are posted to you and ask questions about them when you do not understand. I know that when someone does not understand something that the Dunning Kruger effect can be very very strong. Don't strive to make it personal. Take the opportunity to learn from others instead.

Oh my! You appear to have a misunderstanding of what I'm saying. I hope you see your error.
 
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