If we are not under the law we are not sinning
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Jesus was sent only to the other tribes (Matthew 4:15). It was a courtesy that he preached to the Jews (his own), knowing that they would reject him.
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That's the way that I understand it.
Israel was Israel, and composed of former Gentiles, long before they entered the land.
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Gentiles are called into/under the new priesthood of Melchizedek not the Aaronic priesthood. Because of the change in priesthood there is a change in the Law. Hebrews 7:11-12.
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I don’t see that supported in Matthew 4:15 or in Isaiah 9. I don’t see anywhere where this verse implies that He came only to the other tribes, the Jews as a whole were all lost sheep.
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Jesus abandoned the Jews as the Jewish leadership wanted to kill him. Of course there were ordinary Jews that followed him, but his primary ministry was to the remnant of the house of Israel living in the region of Galilee and Syria.
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All of Israel are led by Yahshua as Kohen Gadol; but it is not that the responsibilities of the Kohen Gadol were transferred to to him, because of a transference of his duties, outlined in the Torah. His duties outlined in the Torah were transferred to him; because the position of Kohen Gadol was transferred to him.
In other words, the duties were transferred as a result of the position being transferred, not the other way around.
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Were they of the house of Israel; or were they of the house of Judah?
Was Yochanan the Immerser a lost sheep?
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Does any of this make gentiles "children of Israel" which was to whom God was talking in the verses I quoted.
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I don’t see anything to support this idea in the scriptures brother.
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So if ceremonial laws are pertaining to honoring God, they are not requires, and they are not moral laws, then are you saying that we don't need to honor God and that it is moral to disobey laws that honor Him? So for example, the command against idolatry pertains to honoring God, so do you think that it is moral to commit idolatry? If doing God's will means that we should obey moral laws and not laws that pertain to honoring Him, then why would God command laws that were not according to His will and why would it not be in accordance with His will for us to honor Him?
If you think that Gentiles were included, then saying that you are not an Israelite is not a good excuse to not obey the Torah. Jesus spent his ministry teaching his followers how to obey the Torah by word and by example and following Jesus is not just for Jews, but for Gentiles too. In John 12:46-50, it does not give us any room to disregard anything that Jesus taught during his ministry, and Jesus did not establish the New Covenant for the purpose of undermining anything that he taught during his ministry, but rather the New Covenant still involves following the Torah (Jeremiah 31:33).
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John the Baptist was an exception because he was a prophet and many things were revealed to him that were not revealed to everyone else including the Pharisees. The Jews were being taught incorrectly by the Pharisees and Christ came to redefine God’s word as He intended it because the Jews misinterpreted much of God’s commandments.
As far as differentiating between Israelites and the house of Judah the scriptures specifically state that the Israelites sinned against God repeatedly in lack of faith and worshipping idols so if your intention here is that Israelites are the true followers and the house of Judah are simply descendants of Jacob that’s not exactly supported by the scriptures. It was Aaron’s idea to make the golden calf and worship it. Was Aaron not an Israelite?
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So there are exceptions to "all?" How many exceptions can be made, before it is no longer defined as "all?"
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Context says different.
Circumcision, bondage, under the curse. For those whom are of the works of the Law are under the curse. Cursed is everyone who continue not in all things contained in the Book of the Law and do them. Christ has made us free Be ye not entangled in the yoke of bondage, the book of the law. For if ye be circumcised you are a debtor to do the whole law. Christ has become no affect to you. For if we are led by the Spirit we are not under the tutorage of the law. For we are dead nevertheless we live. Yet not us but Christ liveth in us. And the life we now live in the flesh we live by the faith OF the Son Of God. For he that has been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. It is now of faith through His word, the law in our hearts and minds through His Spirit through Christ. Now we do the things of God, His Word , the Law because we want to through faith rather than because we have to.
Galatians 2:3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
Galatians 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Galatians 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Galatians 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
Galatians 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galatians 5:11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
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For the same reason that Abraham was; but the new converts were not exempted from circumcising their children.
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Gen_17:24 And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
Gentiles are not required to circumcise in the N,T.Acts 15:1
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Acts 15:5
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Acts 15:20
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. [only 4 things]
Acts 15:24
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
Acts 15:28-29
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these[four] necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Acts 21:24-25
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.[only 4 things]
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Acts 15:5
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Acts 15:20
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. [only 4 things]
Acts 15:24
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
Acts 15:28-29
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these[four] necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Acts 21:24-25
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.
25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.[only 4 things]
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