But with white women it is good dark, light bad. Perhaps people want more of that they don't have; dark people want to look lighter, light people want to look darker.
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Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?
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Are you telling me a black man from Bronx New York is going to have the same culture as a black man from Birmingham Alabama, who will have the same culture as a black man from Portland Oregon? Are you kidding me?
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Do you have evidence that this is happening to the extent to explain few blacks living in trailer parks? Or are you just assuming.
If there were limited choices, they wouldn't be forcing people to live there, only a select few who want to live there would be allowed.
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Better yet, why are immigrant blacks with a different culture doing so much better than native blacks? Nigerians whose culture is closer to Asians actually do better than white people; and are on par with Asians; do you suppose culture might have something to do with it instead of race?
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Not really. There is a fashion niche to having a light tan, but there is no general "good dark, light bad" cultural morality going on with white women. Look at what is pushed for children to see what the basic morality is. There is no dearth of light, blonde, blue-eyed culture being pushed for children. In the super-popular-to-white-girls "Frozen" movies, for instance, the lead character is as white as can be, while the secondary character, lower in the hierarchy, has dark hair.
It's annoying but interesting how they lighten female characters for children that had initially been dark. The Star Trek: Discovery character of Michael Burnham is a dark-haired, dark-eyed, medium-dark skinned black women. But in the animated version for children, they portray her as a light-skinned, hazel-eyed, tawney-haired, and lightly freckled...obviously bi-racial. The Disney character Tiana (The Princess and the Frog) was originally portrayed as dark skinned with typical Afroid features, but when animators re-imaged her for "Ralph Breaks the Internet," they revised her as light-skinned, hazel-eyed, tawney-haired, and lightly freckled...obviously bi-racial...which seems to be a trope these days for what "black" is supposed to be for black women in media.
There is a whole ground-swell (you've apparently missed) of annoyance from black women that the media is replacing them with bi-racial women because "good dark, light bad" is definitely not a thing with white women who are making the casting decisions.
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In another thread, I took time to explain that there was a bifurcation of cultural direction that occurred with the Great Northern Migration (more accurately called the Great Urban Migration). It's visible as the difference between Malcolm X and Martin Luther King.
With the spread and popularization of electronic media post WWII, the transmission of culture in America changed from parents and grandparents to electronic media. I also explained that when electronic media discovered black people in the late 60s, the media created and imposed "ghetto" as a new surface cultural meme that became the dominant concept of "black culture," and, yes, black people who have no reason by neighborhood or parentage to have adopted any of that "ghetto" culture yet have done so because electronic media informs them of what "being black" means.
One almost has to have been there to see it happen, because it was rapid enough to see within one lifetime. Our social direction (and our BMI) was changed between the 60s and the 80s.
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It's funny how you argue against culture in one post, then argue for it in another post in the same thread.
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And it's not a new thing. It was an attitude even 4000 years ago in the Middle East as we see in the Old Testament:
I am dark but beautiful, O women of Jerusalem— dark as the tents of Kedar, dark as the curtains of Solomon’s tents. Do not stare at me because I am dark, because I am darkened by the sun. My mother’s sons were angry with me and made me take care of the vineyards; my own vineyard I had to neglect. -- Song of Soloman 1
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I was a Real Estate agent for some years and I know for a fact that people who concentrated on a particular area do in fact steer people to the neighborhood or away from the neighborhood. You can't do that. You are supposed to show them any house in the area and the price range they chose. Many leave much of the search to the agent so they assume that what the agent shows them is what is available so they don't question it. I have seen agents do it. They just have to be really slick about it. An experienced agent knows who they can steer and who is doing their own research and will notice.
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No, but a Black American from New York has more in common with a Black American from LA than a black man from Ghana or Nigeria or South America. I didn't mean to imply that all black people are the same in America.
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