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Jeremiah 22:15b~16 (NASB20)
“……………………..Did your father not eat and drink And do justice and righteousness? Then it was well for him. “He pled the cause of the afflicted and the poor, Then it was well. Is that not what it means to know Me?” Declares the Lord.

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‘Is that not what it means to know Me?’

What is scripture putting forth that it means to know God..?

To eat and drink, but in that eating and drinking, do justice and righteousness…. Or, in other words, live your life, but as one live’s one’s life, do justice and righteousness in that living…. This is what scripture puts forth as what it means to know God..

For God Himself is justice and righteousness, so than for the experiencing of God, one would have to experience what He Himself is, in His very essence, nature and makeup…. That essence, nature and makeup being justice and righteousness, so this therefore would be the truth, to the degree one sees, knows, practices, lives in, and walks in justice and righteousness, to that degree will one have the experience of God…

Knowing that man, being, fallen from his first created state of righteousness, therefore being brought back to this state being what the salvation of Christ is concerned with…. Man must therefore be brought to a place where he would willingly give himself up to justice and righteousness… Not that he, by his own strength can produce justice and righteousness, but the willingness to let God produce these works in him, being that which is necessary… For in the giving of oneself up to justice and righteousness, is the giving oneself up to God, one being what can be seen in this world, the Other, that Being which cannot be seen… For by the words of the tongue of God Himself, by these words, ‘is that not what it means to know Me’ Declares the Lord’, does God Himself bring forth the absolute truth of this, making a direct connection between the doing and the knowing…

This truth seen and believed in the heart as true, being the blesser of life, for it opens the door, it brings God in real time, in a living way, so one can taste and see, then in this tasting and seeing does one experience the truth of this truth…

For one’s relationship to righteousness is that thing that will bring the desire of life to satisfaction and rest… For all life is a desire in motion after something, and this desire of life can only find its rest in finding its lost state of righteousness… For when one has righteousness and walks in that righteousness, all the desires of life become a servant to that righteousness… Then the heart sees the truth that when one has righteousness one has all things… That being, when one has righteousness, one has God, and when one has God, one has all things… For all things were created so righteousness might be showed forth what it is in its very essence, nature and makeup…. That being, that God Himself is righteousness, so that God Himself might show forth what He is in His very essence, nature, and makeup….

So therefore does scripture say that knowing God, is the knowing of justice and righteousness…. For to the degree the new life is formed in one, to that degree will one experience and encounter God in the manifestation of justice and righteousness… That being, the growing of the Divine nature in one, which is the life that sins not… Which is accessed by the faith of the heart turning towards it and then by faith, desiring and grabbing unto it… For all things come through the faith of the heart turned towards God, the desire towards righteousness being the lack, and then God being the filler of that lack…

Be blessed in the seeing, the desiring, the experiencing and then the knowing of the Filler of the lack found in the heart…


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……..Did your father not eat and drink And do justice and righteousness? Then it was well for him. “He pled the cause of the afflicted and the poor, Then it was well. Is that not what it means to know Me?” Declares the Lord.

always rd the context:-
11 For this is what the Lord says about Shallum son of Josiah, who succeeded his father as king of Judah but has gone from this place: “He will never return. 12 He will die in the place where they have led him captive; he will not see this land again.”

is the start o this passage, a passage about judgement on a king, so it does not refer to us.
 
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always rd the context:-
11 For this is what the Lord says about Shallum son of Josiah, who succeeded his father as king of Judah but has gone from this place: “He will never return. 12 He will die in the place where they have led him captive; he will not see this land again.”

is the start o this passage, a passage about judgement on a king, so it does not refer to us.

Be blessed in knowing what it means to know God…


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So therefore does scripture say that knowing God, is the knowing of justice and righteousness….

Micah 6:8

8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"

Proverbs 21:3

3 "To do righteousness and justice is more desirable to the LORD than sacrifice."


Matthew 12:7

"If only you had known the meaning of 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent."

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Micah 6:8

8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"

Proverbs 21:3

3 "To do righteousness and justice is more desirable to the LORD than sacrifice."


Matthew 12:7

"If only you had known the meaning of 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent."

Verizon 2002

"Can you hear me now?"

Be blessed in your relationship with Him…

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the start o this passage, a passage about judgement on a king, so it does not refer to us.
Stewardship is a Royal priesthood.
Matthew 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord has made ruler
over his household, to give them meat in due season?
 
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8 "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"

A large part of our problem I think is that we are a) naturally bad at these things - doing them well is unnatural for us and b) we don't have good concepts, definitions or understandings of what doing them well is. Hence, the genuine need for Christ, and the Gospel that both leads to and follows.
 
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A large part of our problem I think is that we are a) naturally bad at these things - doing them well is unnatural for us and b) we don't have good concepts, definitions or understandings of what doing them well is. Hence, the genuine need for Christ, and the Gospel that both leads to and follows.
Amen, this is in knowing Him.
2 Peter 1: 3 As His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and
godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue.
 
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do justice and righteousness….
What we mean by justice and righteousness is important. One can stay busy with making gestures of justice to God, but be stressing out and frustrated and unforgiving and bitter against all the people who do not support his or her social causes. Or, justice and righteousness can mainly mean all we have in the character of Jesus, so we become able to do what is really just and right . . . not only social reforming.

One of our best examples of justice, I would say, is how Jesus died for us so we may be forgiven. Instead of only putting us in hell, it is better to forgive us and change us to become like Jesus and to love like Jesus > this does more good > execute our old selfish personality, and become like Jesus :) . . . instead of keeping that old person alive and punishing that selfish one.

For God Himself is justice and righteousness,
by character . . . not just acting.

Knowing that man, being, fallen from his first created state of righteousness, therefore being brought back to this state being what the salvation of Christ is concerned with….
My opinion is that salvation brings us to better than what Adam and Eve lost. If salvation can not be lost . . . it is safe. But Adam and Eve had what they could lose . . . therefore what was not safe . . . not saved and therefore not safe.

this desire of life can only find its rest in finding its lost state of righteousness…
Well, like I offer, if we have the righteousness of Jesus in our character, this effects if our wills can choose to leave God. In Jesus, we are new, including in the character of our wills, so we stay with God. Adam and Eve did not have the character to keep them with God, I would say.

For to the degree the new life is formed in one, to that degree will one experience and encounter God in the manifestation of justice and righteousness… That being, the growing of the Divine nature in one, which is the life that sins not…
Yes, 2 Peter 1:4 says we in Jesus have been given the "divine nature". This keeps us with God. This nature has God's almighty power to keep us. And this new character effects how we make choices. So, I do not believe Adam and Eve had this.

But, in any case, the justice and righteousness of Jesus is shared with us, in our new nature as children of God. And as we grow in this, we discover how God has us doing things.

My opinion is that social causes can not accomplish the most. But we need personal example with prayer to help people find out how to love, not only to have things become nicer for us.
 
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What we mean by justice and righteousness is important. One can stay busy with making gestures of justice to God, but be stressing out and frustrated and unforgiving and bitter against all the people who do not support his or her social causes. Or, justice and righteousness can mainly mean all we have in the character of Jesus, so we become able to do what is really just and right . . . not only social reforming.

One of our best examples of justice, I would say, is how Jesus died for us so we may be forgiven. Instead of only putting us in hell, it is better to forgive us and change us to become like Jesus and to love like Jesus > this does more good > execute our old selfish personality, and become like Jesus :) . . . instead of keeping that old person alive and punishing that selfish one.

by character . . . not just acting.

My opinion is that salvation brings us to better than what Adam and Eve lost. If salvation can not be lost . . . it is safe. But Adam and Eve had what they could lose . . . therefore what was not safe . . . not saved and therefore not safe.

Well, like I offer, if we have the righteousness of Jesus in our character, this effects if our wills can choose to leave God. In Jesus, we are new, including in the character of our wills, so we stay with God. Adam and Eve did not have the character to keep them with God, I would say.

Yes, 2 Peter 1:4 says we in Jesus have been given the "divine nature". This keeps us with God. This nature has God's almighty power to keep us. And this new character effects how we make choices. So, I do not believe Adam and Eve had this.

But, in any case, the justice and righteousness of Jesus is shared with us, in our new nature as children of God. And as we grow in this, we discover how God has us doing things.

My opinion is that social causes can not accomplish the most. But we need personal example with prayer to help people find out how to love, not only to have things become nicer for us.

Thank you for your thoughts…

Be blessed in experiencing the salvation there is in Christ…


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Stewardship is a Royal priesthood.
Matthew 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord has made ruler
over his household, to give them meat in due season?

That is not how the poster has introduced this thread.

Yes we are All stewards of Gods grace and if we like the King to whom this passage is address, we abuse that role then we face judgement.
 
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That is not how the poster has introduced this thread.

Yes we are All stewards of Gods grace and if we like the King to whom this passage is address, we abuse that role then we face judgement.


Knowing this truth, as Gamaliel set forth;

If it be of God, it will stand, and if not, it will come to naught….

So to Him who judges righteously and does all things well, to Him be glory, honor and praise…


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Knowing this truth, as Gamaliel set forth;

If it be of God, it will stand, and if not, it will come to naught….

So to Him who judges righteously and does all things well, to Him be glory, honor and praise…


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Luke 16:10 He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much;
and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much.
 
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Luke 16:10 He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much;
and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much.

Be so blessed in that fellowship and relationship that you have with Jesus that is so evident in your posts…


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