Kyle Rittenhouse - hero

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I'll bet you were not a black man running in Georgia with three white guys chasing you for four minutes in two vehicles yelling at you to stop and carrying guns. I'll bet that never happened to you.

I've had 3 black guys chasing me yelling threats at me. Is that better or worse? I'll have to check my "racial justice" handbook to find out.
 
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I've had 3 black guys chasing me yelling threats at me. Is that better or worse? I'll have to check my "racial justice" handbook to find out.

Were they riding in vehicles carrying guns trying to arrest you?
 
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Were they riding in vehicles carrying guns trying to arrest you?

You ask these questions as if what I've been through has to be EXACTLY the same, or otherwise I can't possibly relate. You do know that's not the case, right?
 
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You ask these questions as if what I've been through has to be EXACTLY the same, or otherwise I can't possibly relate. You do know that's not the case, right?

If you are going to claim that your experience of being yelled at by 3 blacks is comparable to Ahmaud Arbery's experience of being chased by 3 white guys carrying guns and trying to arrest him, you can't leave out essential details like the fact the the guys were armed, the fact that they did chase him for four minutes in vehicles, and the fact that they were trying to arrest him. Those are not just irrelevant details. They are essential to the justification of Mr. Arbery's reaction.
 
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If you are going to claim that your experience of being yelled at by 3 blacks is comparable to Ahmaud Arbery's experience of being chased by 3 white guys carrying guns and trying to arrest him, you can't leave out essential details like the fact the the guys were armed, the fact that they did chase him for four minutes in vehicles, and the fact that they were trying to arrest him. Those are not just irrelevant details. They are essential to the justification of Mr. Arbery's reaction.

You keep saying "the fact", but you don't know if Arbery knew those things, or if he was angry and wanted to be confrontational by grabbing the other guy's shotgun. It's not the first time we've seen people grab at guns and end up shot. Although I've noticed a far different attitude toward another guy who was being chased and defended himself. It would seem that being black makes the difference, whether grabbing at a shotgun, or even running down people at a parade with an SUV.
 
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You keep saying "the fact", but you don't know if Arbery knew those things.

Which fact do think is not true? That he was chased by three guys in two vehicles? That they were armed? That they were trying to arrest him? These facts are all obvious. Can you prove that Arbery did not know these facts that are so easy for all of us to see on the video?
 
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Which fact do think is not true? That he was chased by three guys in two vehicles? That they were armed? That they were trying to arrest him? These facts are all obvious. Can you prove that Arbery did not know these facts that are so easy for all of us to see on the video?

He didn't see the video. You seeing it doesn't mean you can read his mind either.
 
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Kyle Rittenhouse. Shoots 3 democrats in self defense and now democrats are mad. If he were a BLM protester who shot in self defense they would defend him

Such things have happened before. Michael Brown was shot by a cop after first robbing a convenience store, and then trying to take a cop's gun. Michael Brown was black, so he was given the benefit of the doubt, even though the whole thing was recorded on video for all to see, including the robbery of the convenience store.
 
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He didn't see the video.

He didn't need to see the video. He saw the situation live and in person. He is dead because three white men suspected him of being a thief and attempted to arrest him, which was illegal under the circumstances at the time. The attempt to make an illegal arrest is reason enough to resist them.
 
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He didn't need to see the video. He saw the situation live and in person. He is dead because three white men suspected him of being a thief and attempted to arrest him, which was illegal under the circumstances at the time. The attempt to make an illegal arrest is reason enough to resist them.
Whats this have to do with Kyle?
 
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I'm getting weary trying to correct the uncorrectable, so here is reason #3 that Kyle is a hero:

For years, gun-grabbers have been chanting that no one needs an AR15 (or large-capacity magazines) for self-defense. Well, here is a case anything less than an AR15 would likely have allowed criminals to kill Kyle Rittenhouse.

Here is a 17-year-old, untrained young man who did the "impossible". He used an AR15 for legal self-defense and didn't endanger anyone else! These are court determined facts.

With more and more rioters given the freedom to rampage throughout urban neighborhoods, Kyle inadvertently showed the world that AR15s can be the perfect defensive tool to protect yourself and your communiy.
 
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I'm getting weary trying to correct the uncorrectable, so here is reason #3 that Kyle is a hero:

For years, gun-grabbers have been chanting that no one needs an AR15 (or large-capacity magazines) for self-defense. Well, here is a case anything less than an AR15 would likely have allowed criminals to kill Kyle Rittenhouse.

Here is a 17-year-old, untrained young man who did the "impossible". He used an AR15 for legal self-defense and didn't endanger anyone else! These are court determined facts.

With more and more rioters given the freedom to rampage throughout urban neighborhoods, Kyle inadvertently showed the world that AR15s can be the perfect defensive tool to protect yourself and your communiy.
Biden said all we need is a double barrel shotgun for self defense. Thats two shots. Kyle needed three. Biden proved wrong on self defense and gun rights.
 
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They attack federal building, burn, loot and destroy property. No crowd dispersal. Can you image if they did that at the capital? Politicians don't care till its their but on the line.
I'm sorry they did worse at the capital. They were there to rape, murder and destroy our public servants for carrying out a just Democratic transfer if power to overthrow our government and make us a dictatorship. Is your mind that frozen around being correct about force being on others and your anger being just? Anger is never justice and if your process is insurrection you are the problem not those who cry out that their life matters while its being snuffed out. I can't believe this is what I find on a Christian site. How does politics involve its self and we don't expect our churches taxed?
 
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Such as when 3 people who defended themselves against a black guy (Ahmaud Arbery) who tried to grab a shotgun and shoot people who simply wanted to ask him a question?

What is relevant about the colour of Arbery's skin to you? Why do you note that? It smells very bad.
 

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I'm sorry they did worse at the capital. They were there to rape, murder and destroy our public servants for carrying out a just Democratic transfer if power to overthrow our government and make us a dictatorship. Is your mind that frozen around being correct about force being on others and your anger being just? Anger is never justice and if your process is insurrection you are the problem not those who cry out that their life matters while its being snuffed out. I can't believe this is what I find on a Christian site. How does politics involve its self and we don't expect our churches taxed?
They were there to rape and murder? I think you are confusing it with BLM chaz zone. They banished police and the end result was rape And murder.
 
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He didn't need to see the video. He saw the situation live and in person. He is dead because three white men suspected him of being a thief and attempted to arrest him, which was illegal under the circumstances at the time. The attempt to make an illegal arrest is reason enough to resist them.

He wouldn't be dead if he didn't grab the shotgun and try to use it against its owner.
 
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They were there to rape and murder? I think you are confusing it with BLM chaz zone. They banished police and the end result was rape And murder.

They like to project. The BLM chaz zone was called the "Summer of Love" when rape and murder occurred there, not to mention an illegal seizure of property from the taxpayers. But people walking into the Capitol--escorted by police? Insurrection, rape, murder, you name it. Oh yeah, and years in prison (after close to a year in solitary confinement) for those who visited the Capitol that day.
 
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