If Roe vs Wade is overturned, will the GOP lose in 2022?

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The only reason they have a say is because their mothers didn't follow their wishes
yes, but maybe their mothers wanted children or maybe they did not agree with abortion. I, for example do not want children, but if I were raped ( the only it would become an issue as I am not in a relationship I would choose adoption over seeking an abortion.
 
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That is indeed correct. The abortion issue then goes back to the 50 states to decide.
Then we get to watch the race among some states to see who can make it the most illegal. I see it getting to the point where those who cross state lines for services illegal in their home state can look forward to prosecution upon their return.
 
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The question then becomes “how much control does a woman have over her own bodily autonomy, (Constitutionally speaking)?”
Unless a woman was raped she made that choice when she chose to engage in certain activity that could be the argument children do not just appear.
 
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Unless a woman was raped she made that choice when she chose to engage in certain activity that could be the argument children do not just appear.
So should there be an “exception” for “nonconsented pregnancies”?
 
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So should there be an “exception” for “nonconsented pregnancies”?
some say yes some say no. I support the legal right to early-term abortions and feel that rape should be treated no differently that consental pregnancies. Others feel that abortion should not be OK even in the case of rape and still others feel that rape should be an exception to a general ban on abortions.
 
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some say yes some say no. I support the legal right to early-term abortions and feel that rape should be treated no differently that consental pregnancies. Others feel that abortion should not be OK even in the case of rape and still others feel that rape should be an exception to a general ban on abortions.
Yes, I understand that there are differing opinions but if Roe is overturned then we will need to know what the Constitutional ramifications are and how to proceed in making new laws regarding abortion.
 
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Most experts now expect Republicans to retake the House next year and possibly the Senate as well. However, a huge uproar over the abortion issue could cause a shift in the odds and keep both chambers under Democratic control. What think ye?
Since the most important focus has always been the overturning of Roe/Wade their job is done. Blessings
 
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While it is a God given option to do wrong, it is never right. That being said, I don't think it would play well with the American populace. Better to abridge and retain a option for cases such as rape etc....

The baby makes its own blood from its own bone marrow, just as it grows all its own other organs, like every other human on the planet. The child gets traits and genes from its parents but each makes their own blood from their own genetic combination.

The child might, by chance, share the same blood group and type as a parent, as my son does with me, but it does not mean that he inherited my blood. He has his own particular genetic makeup which is different than mine is.
Not the mothers body
A body part, such as the arm or leg, is defined by the common genetic code it shares with the rest of its body. Every cell of the mother’s tonsils, appendix, heart, and lungs shares the same genetic code. The unborn child also has a genetic code, but it is distinctly different from his mother’s. Every cell of his body is uniquely his, each different than every cell of his mother’s body. Often his blood-type is also different, and half the time even his gender is different.

Half of the child’s forty-six chromosomes come from his biological father, half from his mother. He is genetically just as much like his father as he is his mother—but would we argue on that basis that the father has the right to decide whether he lives or dies? Except in the rare cases of identical twins, the combination of those chromosomes is unique, distinct even from that of a brother or sister coming from the same parents.

Just as no two people have identical fingerprints, no two people have identical genetic fingerprints. If one body is inside another, but each has its own unique genetic code, then there is not one person, but two separate people. John Jefferson Davis states:

It is a well-established fact that a genetically distinct human being is brought into existence at conception. Once fertilization takes place, the zygote is its own entity, genetically distinct from both mother and father. The newly conceived individual possesses all the necessary information for a self-directed development and will proceed to grow in the usual human fashion, given time and nourishment. It is simply untrue that the unborn child is merely “part of the mother’s body.” In addition to being genetically distinct from the time of conception, the unborn possesses separate circulatory, nervous, and endocrine systems.
 
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Unless a woman was raped she made that choice when she chose to engage in certain activity that could be the argument children do not just appear.
And sometimes that makes father disappear. Leaving mothers to......? And the father's to ....?
 
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Huh. The Mississippi law surprisingly doesn't violate my personal test case at all, so I have no objections to it. I also have no objections to overturning Roe v. Wade. Well, I'll look forward to seeing how this turns out.

It's the Texas anti-abortion law that I'm opposed to, with its quirky mechanics. I'm very interested in seeing how the Supreme Court handles that one.

Would overturning Roe v. Wade kill the Republican chances in the next election? Well, the Republicans are the party of Trump these days, and Trump has made things very unpredictable for me. I have no clue at this point.
 
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Then we get to watch the race among some states to see who can make it the most illegal. I see it getting to the point where those who cross state lines for services illegal in their home state can look forward to prosecution upon their return.
There will be no advertising and abortion. I went on vacation; they have no proof an abortion happened.
 
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While it is a God given option to do wrong, it is never right. That being said, I don't think it would play well with the American populace. Better to abridge and retain a option for cases such as rape etc....

The baby makes its own blood from its own bone marrow, just as it grows all its own other organs, like every other human on the planet. The child gets traits and genes from its parents but each makes their own blood from their own genetic combination.

The child might, by chance, share the same blood group and type as a parent, as my son does with me, but it does not mean that he inherited my blood. He has his own particular genetic makeup which is different than mine is.
Not the mothers body
A body part, such as the arm or leg, is defined by the common genetic code it shares with the rest of its body. Every cell of the mother’s tonsils, appendix, heart, and lungs shares the same genetic code. The unborn child also has a genetic code, but it is distinctly different from his mother’s. Every cell of his body is uniquely his, each different than every cell of his mother’s body. Often his blood-type is also different, and half the time even his gender is different.

Half of the child’s forty-six chromosomes come from his biological father, half from his mother. He is genetically just as much like his father as he is his mother—but would we argue on that basis that the father has the right to decide whether he lives or dies? Except in the rare cases of identical twins, the combination of those chromosomes is unique, distinct even from that of a brother or sister coming from the same parents.

Just as no two people have identical fingerprints, no two people have identical genetic fingerprints. If one body is inside another, but each has its own unique genetic code, then there is not one person, but two separate people. John Jefferson Davis states:

It is a well-established fact that a genetically distinct human being is brought into existence at conception. Once fertilization takes place, the zygote is its own entity, genetically distinct from both mother and father. The newly conceived individual possesses all the necessary information for a self-directed development and will proceed to grow in the usual human fashion, given time and nourishment. It is simply untrue that the unborn child is merely “part of the mother’s body.” In addition to being genetically distinct from the time of conception, the unborn possesses separate circulatory, nervous, and endocrine systems.
 
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Why are the actions of Women ALONE seen as responsible for pregnancies? Do not Men wheedle, connive, flatter and if that does not work, drug or just plain use sexual assault to get the sex or power that they crave, the power of conquering a female being? Perhaps pro life Men should suggest to their fellow Men to find other ways of satisfying their sexual urges that do not involve dealing with WOMEN in no WAY WHATSOEVER! Won't have any abortion issues to be concerned about unless even so Called " Christian Men" see Men as Entitled To heterosexual sex whenever they want it?!

As long as the host body ie; the Woman excretes waste materials for IT, and IT takes oxygen and nutrients from the host body, even to the point of leeching skeletal mass from the host body to create its OWN skeleton, subsequently weakening the host body etc; or in short behaving like any other parasitical organism inside of host body then regardless of how IT got there, the Woman will find a way to excise it OUT of her body. If abortion becomes illegal then voluntary blood, bone marrow, blood products and bodily organs become mandatory for all-. Let so called " Pro lifers" be the First to step and give by Mandatory laws their bodies when others need their PARTS or materials, less they too be called derisively people KILLERS.

Other than that criminalizing of abortion will force the anti choicers to have to find another cause to find their co conspirators to foam at the mouth over,
 
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If Roe is overturned by the courts, it'll be a landslide...for the GOP. Because the pro-life base will be more energized then it has been.

Assuming, of course, the elections are decided by voters and not voting machines.
 
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If Roe is overturned by the courts, it'll be a landslide...for the GOP. Because the pro-life base will be more energized then it has been.

Assuming, of course, the elections are decided by voters and not voting machines.
If Roe is reversed the GOP will have to come up with something else to get voters to the polls. Traditionally they’re not the “new ideas” Party.
 
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Well it’s less free votes the Republicans can rely on. Most of them don’t care about abortion, especially the likes of Trump, but they go through the motions of feigning faith and it gains them votes.

As much as they bang on about it they rely too heavily on it for it to happen, that and as I said, most simply don’t dare and, frankly, many will likely be inconvenienced by it’s overturning.
 
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Most experts now expect Republicans to retake the House next year and possibly the Senate as well. However, a huge uproar over the abortion issue could cause a shift in the odds and keep both chambers under Democratic control. What think ye?

I think that as long as the GOP controls state legislatures, the drawing of district lines, and the electoral process, neither this nor any other issue is going to have much of an impact.
 
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