Afraid I’m falling into unbelief

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Today I’m reaching out for help,today is considerably more troubling than last night.Let me out the point straight that IM COMPLETELY AGAINST ATHEISM AND AGNOSTICISM,but it’s seemingly that I’m some sort of double-minded state,”I’m scared of atheists having the true knowledge and us Christians somehow being the ignorant ones” I REFUSE to EVER leave the Lord.Can someone help?
 

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I’m some sort of double-minded state,”I’m scared of atheists having the true knowledge and us Christians somehow being the ignorant ones”

First things first.
If you are having doubts, strang thoughts, feeling sad so that nothing is worth going and are very tired.
Please talk to your doctor.
God gave us medicine, doctors etc for our benefit so talk to him.

Next talk to your minister. The guy in charge of the church you attend each week.

These are two sources of help and advice that you can use for face to face conversation about your problems.

Next. Christianity stands or falls on Jesus's death and resurrection.
If you can demonstrate that Jesus never rose from the dead, physically, then there is no Christianity.
check out dr g habermas, william lane craig for expert debates and articles that show that Jesus did rise from the dead.

For easier to read article tey answersingenisis..
 
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Hmm. A few things came to mind. It does not have to be a binary choice. Either a Christian God or nothing at all. That would likely make a lot of people argue. So, if not a Christian God, why not a pantheon of gods? Why not we (the universe) are an atom in the next universe up, which is an atom in the next universe up, forever repeating and no thought behind it all?
I ask this to get you to think a bit. I have had thoughts like that a long time ago and I came to my own conclusions. I am not going to give you my thought process, as this is something YOU need to work out and I bet you will come to the conclusion I did if you apply enough thought, reasoning, logic, philosophy and asking of help (if there is NO Gog/gods then who cares if you ask?).
For me it was far more important to come to my conclusions from my OWN reasoning, rather than simply listening to someone and following. I believe the fruits that are sewn and reaped are far superior to ones given to you or you bought in the market.
Do as was mentioned earlier in the thread, talk to your paster/priest/minister. And lastly. I say that if you are not yet ready to decide, do not push it. Take your time researching, pondering, praying and when you are ready to reach a decision you will (either by the Lords help or not). But do not discount anything.
And don't be worried that someone else has it right and you do not. If I told you I pray to a coke bottle and that is God, would you worry I was right? ;) Not everyone will agree with you on most things in your lifetime. Stay focused and follow your heart.

I am not always the best person to respond to this type of issue, so I hope I did not muddy up your mind and I hope something of my idea resonated in some way. :)
 
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I feel that I understand atheism pretty well these days. The thing is though, I enjoy my relationship with the Lord.
I do not fully understand it these days, or any more. I was once one myself, but I find it took more energy to believe that everything was random happenstance than planned and created by design. Looking back, I think I spent more time trying to shore up the atheism than to accept design, because everywhere I looked screamed design. I actually now feel sorry for atheists. Eh, just my 2¢.
 
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Hi everyone,


Today I’m reaching out for help,today is considerably more troubling than last night.Let me out the point straight that IM COMPLETELY AGAINST ATHEISM AND AGNOSTICISM,but it’s seemingly that I’m some sort of double-minded state,”I’m scared of atheists having the true knowledge and us Christians somehow being the ignorant ones” I REFUSE to EVER leave the Lord.Can someone help?

I lived a period of time wandering aimlessly an empty vessel…. relentlessly trying to fill the emptiness inside.

My life was filled with crime, lust, drugs, death, and destruction…. serving the god of this world….I was without God and without hope.

Now ….I am having such a great time living and serving God and the Lord Jesus Christ that if I die and found out there was no heaven, God, or Jesus……I’m ok with that…. because I now have purpose, I have true love, and I have hope…..I don’t want any other way to live.

So whatever philosophical life the atheist or agnostics want to live under.. I’m cool with that. I have been there and I understand most of their reasoning …But in the end, we are both going to die, at which time one of us will be right… and one of us will be wrong. If I am wrong, it doesn’t matter, because I have had a great time getting there.
 
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I do not fully understand it these days, or any more. I was once one myself, but I find it took more energy to believe that everything was random happenstance than planned and created by design. Looking back, I think I spent more time trying to shore up the atheism than to accept design, because everywhere I looked screamed design. I actually now feel sorry for atheists. Eh, just my 2¢.

I've found that to be the case with several atheists.
 
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Hmm. A few things came to mind. It does not have to be a binary choice. Either a Christian God or nothing at all. That would likely make a lot of people argue. So, if not a Christian God, why not a pantheon of gods? Why not we (the universe) are an atom in the next universe up, which is an atom in the next universe up, forever repeating and no though behind it all?
I ask this to get you to think a bit. I have had thoughts like that a long time ago and I came to my own conclusions. I am not going to give you my thought process, as this is something YOU need to work out and I bet you will come to the conclusion I did if you apply enough thought, reasoning, logic, philosophy and asking of help (if there is NO Gog/gods then who cares if you ask?).
For me it was far more important to come to my conclusions from my OWN reasoning, rather than simply listening to someone and following. I believe the fruits that are sewn and reaped are far superior to ones given to you or you bought in the market.
Do as was mentioned earlier in the thread, talk to your paster/priest/minister. And lastly. I say that if you are not yet ready to decide, do not push it. Take your time researching, pondering, praying and when you are ready to reach a decision you will (either by the Lords help or not). But do not discount anything.
And don't be worried that someone else has it right and you do not. If I told you I pray to a coke bottle and that is God, would you worry I was right? ;) Not everyone will agree with you on most things in your lifetime. Stay focused and follow your heart.

I am not always the best person to respond to this type of issue, so I hope I did not muddy up your mind and I hope something of my idea resonated in some way. :)
My mind is closed to the worlds wisdom,I don’t believe evolution or the big bang.My only worry is I don’t want atheists to be right,I want atheists to be wrong.It’s struggling for me.
 
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I REFUSE to EVER leave the Lord
Then stick to your words and do not leave. People process adversaries differently. Some do not waver a bit and some let the wind take them too and fro. Put on the full armor of God and stay the course of righteousness. The Holy Spirit will help you find your way.
Blessings
 
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Hi everyone,


Today I’m reaching out for help,today is considerably more troubling than last night.Let me out the point straight that IM COMPLETELY AGAINST ATHEISM AND AGNOSTICISM,but it’s seemingly that I’m some sort of double-minded state,”I’m scared of atheists having the true knowledge and us Christians somehow being the ignorant ones” I REFUSE to EVER leave the Lord.Can someone help?

... I wouldn't even worry about it, Blaise. The Bible will still be there, remaining on the table as our doubts come and go. Just breathe and try to relax.
 
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My mind is closed to the worlds wisdom,I don’t believe evolution or the big bang.My only worry is I don’t want atheists to be right,I want atheists to be wrong. It’s struggling for me.
I do not think that should be a concern. Who cares another's belief and it's possibility if it is not what you think or believe. I do not worry "What is Muslims are right?". I am Catholic and believe (know, have faith) I am right, so what a Muslim believes does not factor into my life. I also love my pet cats and believe they will be with me again one day and I do not care if another Christian or Catholic does not believe that. It really does not factor into MY belief. Trust yourself. If you start to believe there is no God, well then what atheists may factor in, but you said you DO believe, so try to let the thoughts slide and do not trouble yourself over them too much.

My next 2¢ worth! Pretty soon I'll be down a nickle of thought! ;)
 
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Whatever you believe, you still can't get something from nothing.
1 Cor, 15:17. And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
In my opinion those who look at mankind and themselves as understanding the universe and it's origins smugly are self aggrandizing fools. Science studies God's creation and we know little. 'At best, scientists give a report on where we are at the time.'
 
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Hi everyone,


Today I’m reaching out for help,today is considerably more troubling than last night.Let me out the point straight that IM COMPLETELY AGAINST ATHEISM AND AGNOSTICISM,but it’s seemingly that I’m some sort of double-minded state,”I’m scared of atheists having the true knowledge and us Christians somehow being the ignorant ones” I REFUSE to EVER leave the Lord.Can someone help?

If fearing that atheists have true knowledge of the things that religion deals with is what is making you fall into unbelief then you can rest assured that they do not have such knowledge nor do they claim to. Atheists do not claim to have such true knowledge, they merely claim to lack evidence of it.
 
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If fearing that atheists have true knowledge of the things that religion deals with is what is making you fall into unbelief then you can rest assured that they do not have such knowledge nor do they claim to. Atheists do not claim to have such true knowledge, they merely claim to lack evidence of it.
Still,I hate atheists and atheism,and will never ever live as one….
 
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Please don't hate anyone.
Understood,what I meant was I am very very angry and oppressive of their claims,they claim that God isn’t real,well I call poppycock.Many people claim that an “all atheist world would be peaceful” but I once again call poppycock,a world without the morality and knowledge and relationship with Jesus would be ruthless,lawless,and full of chaos.Heck,I even taped the pages of a book (that explains a lot of different subjects,like sports,nature,history,etc) that explained the “Big bang” and even threw it in a drawer and never read it,and recently trashed it because I don’t want to give it to charity and pollute another persons mind with that nonsense.


What really is troubling for someone in my condition,is the constant doubt I face.Sometimes I imagine what life would be like if I had complete certainty of Gods existence and real ness and never have a waking doubt.Note that I code doubt into 2 different categories,willful/skeptical doubt and unwanted/troubling doubt.I am afflicted by the latter.I would NEVER willfully or willingly doubt the Good lord.In my condition,I have embraced Jesus so deeply and so heart-fully that what worries me is two things utter heartbreak and worry that someone so kind,loving,and almighty “may not be real”.I worry even more of the topic of unbelief,because I know deep deep down unbelief and apostasy is a atrocious and extremely dangerous condition and decision.I know unbelief is the fast lane to hell,which is ANOTHER reason I worry of somehow befalling into unbelief.overall my mind is CLOSED and sealed against unbelief and atheism.I oppose it in every way.and desperately want and desire to believe in Jesus.
 
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Hi everyone,


Today I’m reaching out for help,today is considerably more troubling than last night.Let me out the point straight that IM COMPLETELY AGAINST ATHEISM AND AGNOSTICISM,but it’s seemingly that I’m some sort of double-minded state,”I’m scared of atheists having the true knowledge and us Christians somehow being the ignorant ones” I REFUSE to EVER leave the Lord.Can someone help?
Take a look at the information of this site, it should remove most if not all your doubts. Dont be concerned about it be on a Catholic site, it is the information that is important, not who owns the site. Big Book - Credible Catholic
 
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Hi everyone,


Today I’m reaching out for help,today is considerably more troubling than last night.Let me out the point straight that IM COMPLETELY AGAINST ATHEISM AND AGNOSTICISM,but it’s seemingly that I’m some sort of double-minded state,”I’m scared of atheists having the true knowledge and us Christians somehow being the ignorant ones” I REFUSE to EVER leave the Lord.Can someone help?
New edit for today,
Hi everyone


I never thought I’d ever ask questions like this.But while I was working today scary,troubling,horrific,insanity-inducing questions passed into my mind, here is what it they were “What if Christianity is a cult?,what if Jesus was crazy or schizophrenic or delusional?,what if Christianity is brainwashing?,what if God isn’t real?,what if I’m loosing my mind?,what if I’m becoming. An atheist?,what if the Bible or church says everyone is a sinner so they convert” Right now I feel like I’m losing my marbles,like I’ve told many people,I’ve embraced Jesus and the Bible so tightly that I desperately DO NOT want atheists to be right.

please,if there are any wise Christians out there who can offer advice or prayers,I’m not doing this for attention,I’m seeking good counsel,could anyone offer advice?
 
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