New horrific variant found

Blade · Nov 26, 2021

Well seems they fully don't know yet and since I am NO ONE here I would NEVER tell anyone what they should do when it comes to "vaccines". HOW there is no rule on this..beyond me. Myself I would search look into this....study.. talk to my doctor who KNOWS me.. then go from there.

They talked like this with the delta.. others didn't. Way to early to jump the gun here. For me in my world I have never taken the shot yet ALL around me have. And some of them got covid and then some at my wifes work got covid as of late and all had the shot. Exactly what is happening. Wife had to stay home.. then just like 3 days ago HR said she was exposed to someone (they told HR who they came in contact with.. praise God they did that). Wife got sick... it would SEEM you can still get SICK and it might look like covid yet.. wow its not.

So....still praying

loveofourlord · Nov 26, 2021

Rachel20 said:
Still no discussion of natural immunity? There's a reason for that and you should be asking why.

Natural immunity won't save you from variants, any more then it does with the flu. You might be immune to some, but given how many mutations this seems to have, chances are natural immunity will be useless against it.

Lost4words · Nov 26, 2021

loveofourlord said:
Nice lied all three times congrats.

Obviously you only see what you want to see. Best if you open your eyes my friend!

Rachel20 · Nov 26, 2021

loveofourlord said:
Natural immunity won't save you from variants, any more then it does with the flu. You might be immune to some, but given how many mutations this seems to have, chances are natural immunity will be useless against it.

Variants threaten both groups. But natural antibodies are more broad-spectrum than vaccine-induced specific antibodies. Everyone needs to be comfortable with their choice. And I am with mine.

A_Thinker · Nov 26, 2021

Lost4words said:
Vaccine doesnt stop you getting covid
Vaccine doesnt stop you passing on covid
Vaccine doesnt stop you from dying from covid

The vaccine stops 90% of people from getting COVID.

The vaccine decreases your transmission of COVID.

There have been very few COVID deaths of those that are vaccinated.

OTOH ... COVID has killed more than 5 million persons worldwide ... in 2 years ...

Lost4words · Nov 26, 2021

A_Thinker said:
The vaccine stops 90% of people from getting COVID.

The vaccine decreases your transmission of COVID.

There have been very few COVID deaths of those that are vaccinated.

OTOH ... COVID has killed more than 5 million persons worldwide ... in 2 years ...

My statement still stands though. The vaccine is not 100% foolproof.

The vaccinated can still pass on covid. They can still get covid and they can still die from it! Plus, with the new variants, who knows how good the vaccine will turn out to be!

ThisIsMe123 · Nov 26, 2021

Lost4words said:
My statement still stands though. The vaccine is not a 100% foolproof.

The vaccinated can still pass on covid. They can still get covid and they can still die from it! Plus, with the new variants, who knows how good the vaccine will turn out to be!

You say this like it's a bad thing.

Lost4words · Nov 26, 2021

ThisIsMe123 said:
You say this like it's a bad thing.

To me, the vaccine is a bad thing

Covid / vaccine, both man made with underlying reasons for their implementation and spread into humanity!

klutedavid · Nov 26, 2021

Lilly54 said:
News in says a new extremely dangerous covid variant is taking hold in South Africa. This one can bypass our vaccines and is more infectious. This is truly bad news.
Anyone unvaccinated stands no chance at all - I urge them to get jabbed quickly. Take what help is already available. Everyone should take every possible precaution.

Looks like another lockdown approaching. Here we go again.

Grace2022 · Nov 27, 2021

In South Africa only 26% of people are vaccinated, I don't know why. The more covid spreads, the more it mutates. This is so dangerous for everyone.
It is in general pure madness in richer countries to refuse vaccination, our best lifeline which is on offer. I don't know why the Africa uptake is so low.
The result of antivaxxers' stance is to contribute to the spread of covid and cause problems for themselves. Eventually they will be excluded from employment, travel and all of life's functions. Government has no option but to act responsibly on the strength of best scientific advice. To do otherwise is negligence. Look what happened in Brazil, so many died because the president was in denial.

I cannot understand antivaxxers, not really. This is a matter of life and death. A time to do what the experts tell us. Very few of us are qualified to know for ourselves. Just like we usually trust our doctors and we have little idea of what is in our medicines. Some trust is required.

mama2one · Nov 27, 2021

Bramblewild said:
Covid has been over-hyped from the beginning

people dying from covid doesn't matter?

US: over 780,000 dead from covid

worldwide:

COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: November 27, 2021, 12:07 GMT

Deaths:
5,209,838

trophy33 · Nov 27, 2021

The new mutation suspected in Germany and Czech republic. They are waiting for confirmation.

Germany has already record high daily new cases. And daily deaths higher than the last November.

Original Happy Camper · Nov 27, 2021

Toby Sterling and Bart H. Meijer
Sat, November 27, 2021, 4:09 AM·2 min read

By Toby Sterling and Bart H. Meijer

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch health authorities said on Saturday they had detected 61 COVID-19 cases among people who flew from South Africa on Friday and were now conducting further testing to see whether any are infected with the recently discovered Omicron variant.
The cases were discovered among around 600 passengers who arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on two flights on Friday before the Dutch government halted air traffic from southern Africa due to concerns over the variant.

Dutch find 61 COVID cases among South Africa passengers, looking for new variant

A_Thinker · Nov 27, 2021

Lost4words said:
My statement still stands though. The vaccine is not 100% foolproof.

The vaccine doesn't have to be 100%.

Lost4words said:
The vaccinated can still pass on covid. They can still get covid and they can still die from it!

This is true ... however, the vaccinated are 9X less likely to be infected, 9X less likely to spread COVID, and have almost no risk of severe disease and death.

Grace2022 · Nov 27, 2021

The main point is why would anyone leave their body totally unprepared and vulnerable to covid when vaccines are available?

loveofourlord · Nov 27, 2021

Lost4words said:
My statement still stands though. The vaccine is not 100% foolproof.

The vaccinated can still pass on covid. They can still get covid and they can still die from it! Plus, with the new variants, who knows how good the vaccine will turn out to be!

then we will get a new vaccine, wich is better then going in blind. I heard someone try to compare vaccines being like in a car that has a 60% chance of the breaks not working. But it's like 60% chance of breaks not working first time, but still slow the car down and better chance to survive and then 100% chance of breaks working from then. VS unvacinated, being in a car where the breaks never work first time, but then work from there.

Bramblewild · Nov 27, 2021

Let me put my opinions plainly...

I have nothing against anyone taking the vaccine if they think it is best for them.

I have everything against anybody trying to put a literal or metaphorical gun to my head trying to force me to take it.

I am not afraid of a disease that has at least a 99.9% survival rate (leaving aside that I think the numbers have been badly skewed to make things look worse). I have been sick before, I will no doubt be sick again if God allows me to live many more days and years. And outside of Christ's return, I will one day come to my appointed day to die. But I can say with 99.9% certainty that I will not come to that day because of Covid.

I do not buy the fearmongering "You're going to die of you don't get the vax" nonsense. We were at 99.9% survival even before the vaccinations. And it's becoming plainer and plainer that the vaccines and boosters are not all that effective.

So, take what precautions you think you need to. Some people have, for example, breathing conditions, and Covid would be very dangerous for them. We know, thanks in no small part to certain state governors who unwisely and even criminally forced homes for the aged to accept Covid-sick patients, that the virus can be dangerous for the elderly.

But don't think that you need to force everyone else to take your precautions. Don't think that your finger-pointing and your intrusions are welcomed.

Finally, don't think your dear leaders are going to stop feeding you Covid-panic so long as you respond to it the way they want you to; with fear, hysteria, and demands that everyone and everything shut down and lock up and abide by your panic.

Give me liberty, or give me death.

loveofourlord · Nov 27, 2021

Bramblewild said:
Let me put my opinions plainly...

I have nothing against anyone taking the vaccine if they think it is best for them.

I have everything against anybody trying to put a literal or metaphorical gun to my head trying to force me to take it.

I am not afraid of a disease that has at least a 99.9% survival rate (leaving aside that I think the numbers have been badly skewed to make things look worse). I have been sick before, I will no doubt be sick again if God allows me to live many more days and years. And outside of Christ's return, I will one day come to my appointed day to die. But I can say with 99.9% certainty that I will not come to that day because of Covid.

I do not buy the fearmongering "You're going to die of you don't get the vax" nonsense. We were at 99.9% survival even before the vaccinations. And it's becoming plainer and plainer that the vaccines and boosters are not all that effective.

So, take what precautions you think you need to. Some people have, for example, breathing conditions, and Covid would be very dangerous for them. We know, thanks in no small part to certain state governors who unwisely and even criminally forced homes for the aged to accept Covid-sick patients, that the virus can be dangerous for the elderly.

But don't think that you need to force everyone else to take your precautions. Don't think that your finger-pointing and your intrusions are welcomed.

Finally, don't think your dear leaders are going to stop feeding you Covid-panic so long as you respond to it the way they want you to; with fear, hysteria, and demands that everyone and everything shut down and lock up and abide by your panic.

Give me liberty, or give me death.

you keep saying 99.9 yet it's already 99.8%

A_Thinker · Nov 27, 2021

Bramblewild said:
Give me liberty, or give me death.

I thought that christians were about life ...

Gregory Thompson · Nov 27, 2021

A_Thinker said:
I thought that christians were about life ...

Yeah, I wonder how many Pro-Lifers are against being vaccinated?

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