The Ghislaine Maxwell Trial: This needs to be televised and all Perps Named

RestoreTheJoy · Nov 27, 2021

"In 1991 Maxwell met Epstein, who died in jail two years ago. They had been romantically involved and stayed close friends for decades.

Prosecutors allege that Maxwell first helped Epstein procure underage girls in 1994.

Sisters Maria and Annie Farmer claimed that they were both sexually assaulted by Epstein and Maxwell.

Annie said in 2019 that she was lured to Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. She stated in court papers that Maxwell insisted on giving her a massage before Epstein tried to restrain and sexually assault her.

She alleged that the couple “worked as a team” in “grooming” girls.

Before his death, Epstein was to stand trial after a number of women came forward to say how they were exploited by him and Maxwell. More women emerged to talk about their experiences after he died."

Ghislaine Maxwell trial: Everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein’s ex-girlfriend and associate

Handmaid for Jesus · Nov 27, 2021

RestoreTheJoy said:
"In 1991 Maxwell met Epstein, who died in jail two years ago. They had been romantically involved and stayed close friends for decades.

Prosecutors allege that Maxwell first helped Epstein procure underage girls in 1994.

Sisters Maria and Annie Farmer claimed that they were both sexually assaulted by Epstein and Maxwell.

Annie said in 2019 that she was lured to Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. She stated in court papers that Maxwell insisted on giving her a massage before Epstein tried to restrain and sexually assault her.

She alleged that the couple “worked as a team” in “grooming” girls.

Before his death, Epstein was to stand trial after a number of women came forward to say how they were exploited by him and Maxwell. More women emerged to talk about their experiences after he died."

Ghislaine Maxwell trial: Everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein’s ex-girlfriend and associate

Do we really need to know the nasty details?

Mark Quayle · Nov 27, 2021

Handmaid for Jesus said:
Do we really need to know the nasty details?

You don't think those in positions of political power should be exposed for their roles in this?

Handmaid for Jesus · Nov 27, 2021

Mark Quayle said:
You don't think those in positions of political power should be exposed for their roles in this?

Yes, they are on trial for it.Hopefully they will pay dearly. But I disagree that the trial itself needs to be on t.v. It is enough that the press will play clips from it.

Desk trauma · Nov 27, 2021

Trials are public record, you can read every word of what is said cameras in the courtroom or not.

RestoreTheJoy · Nov 30, 2021

Handmaid for Jesus said:
Do we really need to know the nasty details?

Yes, we need every single bit of this trial public. Sex trafficking happened for years. Trials are public record. Unfortunately, the information - while dribbling out bit by bit by some who are trying to get it out there - is still going to be shaped by the mainstream media, just as the whole Rittenhouse thing was completely mischaracterized by them...but direct testimony and rulings cannot be refuted and mischaracterized successfully.

This trial is much more important, as it involves a huge cast of well known characters and many victims over many years.

Everyone can't get to Manhattan to see it in person, but this implicates many more than just Maxwell and Epstein. We need to hear every word of every witness (and if details are bothersome or triggering for some, don't listen to that part).

Tanj · Nov 30, 2021

I am kinda interested to see who else is accused beyond Clinton, Trump and Prince Andrew.

Hammster · Dec 1, 2021

Tanj said:
I am kinda interested to see who else is accused beyond Clinton, Trump and Prince Andrew.

Trump flew once on the plane in 97. From Florida to NYC. Never to Epstein Island.

Ceallaigh · Dec 1, 2021

Hammster said:
Trump flew once on the plane in 97. From Florida to NYC. Never to Epstein Island.

The way people talk I figured one of his hotels was on that island.

Hammster · Dec 1, 2021

MMXX said:
The way people talk I figured one of his hotels was on that island.

The media has to keep mentioning his name.

Tanj · Dec 1, 2021

Hammster said:
Trump flew once on the plane in 97. From Florida to NYC. Never to Epstein Island.

Uh huh, sure. That was the only time they met and Epstein never went near any Trump properties ever.

Hammster · Dec 1, 2021

Tanj said:
Uh huh, sure. That was the only time they met and Epstein never went near any Trump properties ever.

He did. And Trump banned him from his resort.

Subduction Zone · Dec 1, 2021

Hammster said:
He did. And Trump banned him from his resort.

Eventually he did. But that was only after Epstein's activities were made very public:

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's Connection, Explained
The same Times article told of a party the future president hosted at his Mar-a-Lago club in 1992. The guest list? Epstein, Trump, and 28 “calendar girl” competition contestants. Ten years later, Trump told New York Magazine that he’d known Epstein for 15 years. “Terrific guy,” said Trump. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” Trump’s name appears on the flight log for Epstein’s plane, and Epstein’s brother claimed that Trump flew on the aircraft “numerous times”

When the allegations against Epstein became national news in 2019, Trump distanced himself from the convicted sex offender, saying that he “was not a fan” of the disgraced financier and eventually banned him from Mar-a-Lago.

There is a bit more in the article.

cow451 · Dec 1, 2021

Subduction Zone said:
Eventually he did. But that was only after Epstein's activities were made very public:

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's Connection, Explained
The same Times article told of a party the future president hosted at his Mar-a-Lago club in 1992. The guest list? Epstein, Trump, and 28 “calendar girl” competition contestants. Ten years later, Trump told New York Magazine that he’d known Epstein for 15 years. “Terrific guy,” said Trump. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” Trump’s name appears on the flight log for Epstein’s plane, and Epstein’s brother claimed that Trump flew on the aircraft “numerous times”

When the allegations against Epstein became national news in 2019, Trump distanced himself from the convicted sex offender, saying that he “was not a fan” of the disgraced financier and eventually banned him from Mar-a-Lago.

There is a bit more in the article.

Your facts are inconvenient for the Trump support faction.

Hammster · Dec 1, 2021

Subduction Zone said:
Eventually he did. But that was only after Epstein's activities were made very public:

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's Connection, Explained
The same Times article told of a party the future president hosted at his Mar-a-Lago club in 1992. The guest list? Epstein, Trump, and 28 “calendar girl” competition contestants. Ten years later, Trump told New York Magazine that he’d known Epstein for 15 years. “Terrific guy,” said Trump. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” Trump’s name appears on the flight log for Epstein’s plane, and Epstein’s brother claimed that Trump flew on the aircraft “numerous times”

When the allegations against Epstein became national news in 2019, Trump distanced himself from the convicted sex offender, saying that he “was not a fan” of the disgraced financier and eventually banned him from Mar-a-Lago.

There is a bit more in the article.

The ban was years ago, and Trump never flew to the island.

Hammster · Dec 1, 2021

cow451 said:
Your facts are inconvenient for the Trump support faction.

I’m not supporting Trump. I’m supporting factual information because that’s what Christians should do.

cow451 · Dec 1, 2021

Hammster said:
I’m not supporting Trump. I’m supporting factual information because that’s what Christians should do.

It is what they should do. Definitely what they should do.

Subduction Zone · Dec 1, 2021

Hammster said:
The ban was years ago, and Trump never flew to the island.

Yes, years ago, but after Epstein's activities were made public. And do you seriously think that Epstein broke the law only on his island?

Hammster · Dec 1, 2021

cow451 said:
It is what they should do. Definitely what they should do.

You should try it. Don’t just assume all the implications are true.

Hammster · Dec 1, 2021

Subduction Zone said:
Yes, years ago, but after Epstein's activities were made public. And do you seriously think that Epstein broke the law only on his island?

The point is that Trump keeps getting mentioned during the news reports of the trial without the whole story being told. He never flew to the island, and had distanced himself from Epstein years before the accusations. Does this make Trump a good person? Not at all. But he shouldn’t be lumped in with Clinton and Prince Andrew, either.

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