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Hi Albion,

If you have something specific in mind I'd imagine you'd be more than willing to share. You comment on all sorts of other random things, yet when it comes to providing the biblical "authorization" you insist you have for why you invest Sunday with veneration you refuse to supply any text(s) to validate your claim. You assert it's because we Sabbatarians will just outright reject your text(s), but I'm surmising you likely see the weakness of your position and realize anything you post won't hold up under scrutiny.
Think whatever you want. What I know is that I'm tired of playing this same game on every one of the many SDA threads that promote the OT Sabbath.

The claim is made, then proof is demanded, then when it's given it gets dismissed out of hand, even though it's straight from the Bible. You said, BTW, that Sabbath Blessings took them on, but what I saw was a serving of NT verses that are not the proof texts that justify Sunday worship, but some others that might be seen as contradicting them.

All along, the Sabbatarians knew the relevant NT verses, of course, because the thread is an exercise in evangelism that has been taught to members no less than Mormon missionaries and Jehovah's Witnesses are trained in how to debate non-members--what to ask the people, how to finesse the answer they surely will give--and so on. And I also know that to be so because of the pattern of posts that was evident on previous threads dealing with this same subject and featuring many of the same posters.

Here today, you're asking for verses/proof when I did go so far as to give a website that lists them all...with commentary. But the game continues anyway.

I'm repeating this only because you make it a point to be polite in your posts, which not everyone does. Thank you.
 
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So you teach and say John taught that it is ok to worship other gods, kill, commit adultery and what ever if one is a “Christian”?
I think you misunderstood what John just said. Here it is again.

1 John 3:5-6
You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. No one who abides in Him sins.

1 John 3:9
No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
 
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Think whatever you want. What I know is that I'm tired of playing this same game on every one of the many SDA threads that promote the OT Sabbath.

The claim is made, then proof is demanded, then when it's given it gets dismissed out of hand, even though it's straight from the Bible. You said, BTW, that Sabbath Blessings took them on, but what I saw was a serving of NT verses that are not the proof texts that justify Sunday worship, but some others that might be seen as contradicting them.

All along, the Sabbatarians knew the relevant NT verses, of course, because the thread is an exercise in evangelism that has been taught to members no less than Mormon missionaries and Jehovah's Witnesses are trained in how to debate non-members--what to ask the people, how to finesse the answer they surely will give--and so on. And I also know that to be so because of the pattern of posts that was evident on previous threads dealing with this same subject and featuring many of the same posters.

Here today, you're asking for verses/proof when I did go so far as to give a website that lists them all...with commentary. But the game continues anyway.

I'm repeating this only because you make it a point to be polite in your posts, which not everyone does. Thank you.

Albion, perhaps it is because there is no scripture anywhere in the bible, that says Gods 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are all now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. This teaching is a man-made teaching and tradition of some in the early Church that is not supported by the scriptures. Jesus warns us in Matthew 15:3-9 that if we follow man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God that we are not worshiping God.

According to Jesus I believe God has his people in every Church *John 10:16 who are living up to all the truth he has revealed to them, but Jesus says that the hour is coming and now is that the "true worshipers" will worship the farther in Spirit and in truth because God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. *John 4:23-24. God is calling his people out where ever they may be from following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us to break the commandments of God back to worship Him in Spirit and in truth. I believe God is calling His people where ever they might be back to the pure Word of God *Revelation 18:1-5.

Therefore the cry is made today for all to hear, "Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." - Revelation 14:7. Babylon has fallen *Revelation 14:8-12. God is calling us all where ever we might be to come out from following man-made teachings and traditions to return back to His Word. Only God's sheep will hear His voice (the Word) and follow Him. Those who do not hear and follow according to Jesus are not His sheep *John 10:26-27.

May God bless you as you seek Him though His Word.
 
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Hi klutedavid,

How 'bout we add a little context:

1 John 3
4 Everyone who sins is breaking God’s law, for all sin is contrary to the law of God. 5 And you know that Jesus came to take away our sins, and there is no sin in him. 6 Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin. But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is.

7 Dear children, don’t let anyone deceive you about this: When people do what is right, it shows that they are righteous, even as Christ is righteous. 8 But when people keep on sinning, it shows that they belong to the devil, who has been sinning since the beginning. But the Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. 10 So now we can tell who are children of God and who are children of the devil. Anyone who does not live righteously and does not love other believers does not belong to God.
As I perceive this passage, those who continue "to live in Him" won't sin. And according to verse 4 sin "is breaking God's law." Sin is not a nebulous term left for individuals to fill in the blank to define for themselves. So how do you know if you are living "in Him"? Would not the evidence of "breaking God's law" reveal that one is not in fact living "in Him"?

If a Christian "continues to live in Him" they will not transgress "God's law." They "do not make a practice of sinning" (plural and implied ongoing sinning) because God's life is in them." In other words, if God is in you then the devil is not. If the devil is in you, then God is not. The two are incompatible and cannot dwell in the same space.

Paul admonishes Christians to "Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?" Unless, of course, you FAIL THE TEST. Paul indicates that Christians should do a self exam to see if Christ Jesus is in them. There is no guarantee that this exam will confirm that Christ is in you. It is a sobering reality that one can indeed "fail the test."

On what basis do you suppose you should determine whether Christ Jesus is in you?

I pray this helps.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
I am a Gentile and I am not under the law. Because I am not under the law, I cannot be in violation of the law.

Romans 4:15
For the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, there also is no violation.

If you agree to submitting to the law, then you will face the wrath of the law.

I have been commanded to obey the law of Christ, shown below.

1 John 3:23:24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

1 John 3:14
We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death.

He who loves others cannot steal or murder.

Don't put the cart before the horse.
 
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Than if you are sinning and worshipping other gods, using His holy name is vain, breaking God’s holy Sabbath and bowing to false images, bearing false witness, stealing etc than according to John you are sinning 1 John 3:4 so those who break these commandments must not be born of God.
Everyone transgresses the law. The law grants you the knowledge of sin after all. I hope you are not claiming you are free from sin.

I have never been under the law and will never be under the law.

I am under the commands that Christ gave.

New covenant commandments.

I am not under the Old Testament law.
 
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Hi Albion,

If you have something specific in mind I'd imagine you'd be more than willing to share. You comment on all sorts of other random things, yet when it comes to providing the biblical "authorization" you insist you have for why you invest Sunday with veneration you refuse to supply any text(s) to validate your claim. You assert it's because we Sabbatarians will just outright reject your text(s), but I'm surmising you likely see the weakness of your position and realize anything you post won't hold up under scrutiny.

SabbathBlessings supplied a link to a website which examined the eight New Testament references to the first day of the week. None of those texts do anything to authorize a change from Sabbath (note continued use of venerated title) to observing the first day of the week (note continued use of title in reference to Sabbath).

God bless.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
Who said anything about changing a day here or there?

Christians are not under the old covenant.

Christians are not under the law.

Christians are members of the new covenant.

Under the new covenant, Christians have been commanded to love others as Christ loved.

If you do not love others, then unrighteous will abound.

1 John 3:23:24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

1 John 3:14
We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love abides in death.

You misunderstand what John is talking about.
 
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Albion, perhaps it is because there is no scripture anywhere in the bible, that says Gods 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are all now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest.
Well, sure. IF you twist the issue around until it's possible to refer to some version of it that is not what's under discussion, I suppose that anyone could denounce the claim. But it wouldn't be the claim any of us on "the other side" have put forth.

In this case, you've said there's no scripture that says the 4th commandment has been abolished. But no one here said that it has been abolished.

And you said here that there's none which commands us to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. Again, no one has said that there is such a verse OR that that is the issue at hand.

In short, you have rebutted yourself, but done nothing to call into question what we're really talking about.

I should add this, however. You wrote this in your post--
"God is calling his people out where ever they may be from following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us to break the commandments of God back to worship Him in Spirit and in truth."

Once again, that is not what anyone is recommending. The point has been made repeatedly that the New Testament authorizes Sunday and that just about every Christian church affirms that the New Testament is God's word. No one has been arguing for traditions of any sort apart from divine revelation. So read the NT verses that have already been entered into this thread which authorize Sunday and then comment on what you think of them.
 
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Albion, perhaps it is because there is no scripture anywhere in the bible, that says Gods 4th commandment has now been abolished and we are all now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. This teaching is a man-made teaching and tradition of some in the early Church that is not supported by the scriptures. Jesus warns us in Matthew 15:3-9 that if we follow man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God that we are not worshiping God.

According to Jesus I believe God has his people in every Church *John 10:16 who are living up to all the truth he has revealed to them, but Jesus says that the hour is coming and now is that the "true worshipers" will worship the farther in Spirit and in truth because God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. *John 4:23-24. God is calling his people out where ever they may be from following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us to break the commandments of God back to worship Him in Spirit and in truth. I believe God is calling His people where ever they might be back to the pure Word of God *Revelation 18:1-5.

Therefore the cry is made today for all to hear, "Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." - Revelation 14:7. Babylon has fallen *Revelation 14:8-12. God is calling us all where ever we might be to come out from following man-made teachings and traditions to return back to His Word. Only God's sheep will hear His voice (the Word) and follow Him. Those who do not hear and follow according to Jesus are not His sheep *John 10:26-27.
Your response here...
Well, sure. IF you twist the issue around until it's possible to refer to some version of it that is not what's under discussion, I suppose that anyone could denounce the claim. But it wouldn't be the claim any of us on "the other side" have put forth.

In this case, you've said there's no scripture that says the 4th commandment has been abolished. But no one here said that it has been abolished.

And you said here that there's none which commands us to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest. Again, no one has said that there is such a verse OR that that is the issue at hand.

In short, you have rebutted yourself, but done nothing to call into question what we're really talking about.

Hi Albion, I think you missed the point of the full post that was provided above. As posted above and shared through the scriptures the focus here is on man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from God and His Word. I was pointing out that if there is no scripture that supports the view that God's 4th commandment has been abolished and that we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest then all you have left is a man-made teaching and tradition that has led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God. As posted in the rest of the post God is calling us all back to His Word to worship Him in Spirit and in truth. Jesus says if we are following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from God and His Word to break His commandments then we in fact are not worshiping God. Therefore God is calling us all where ever we might be to come out from following man-made teachings and traditions back to His Word.

Take Care.
 
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Your response here...


Hi Albion,
Hi, LGW.

I think you missed the point of the full post that was provided above. As posted above and shared through the scriptures the focus here is on man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from God and His Word. I was pointing out that if there is no scripture that supports the view that God's 4th commandment has been abolished and that we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest then all you have left is a man-made teaching and tradition that has led many away from Gods and His Word to break the commandments of God. As posted in the rest of the post God is calling us all back to His Word to worship Him in Spirit and in truth.
Okay, but I think I did address that.

You're calling it manmade traditions, but we and the churches of the world base the decision on the New Testament, which is the word of God, not on manmade traditions unauthorized by Scripture.

Jesus says if we are following man-made teachings and traditions that lead us away from God and His Word to break His commandments then we in fact are not worshiping God.
I cannot disagree with that, but since it isn't what we're talking about in this discussion, why mention it?
 
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Hi, LGW. Okay, but I think I did address that.
You're calling it manmade traditions, but we and the churches of the world base the decision on the New Testament, which is the word of God, not on manmade traditions unauthorized by Scripture. I cannot disagree with that, but since it isn't what we're talking about in this discussion, why mention it?
Well to be honest I do not think you have addressed anything in those posts shared with you accept to seek to make my argument something I have never said or was not saying. You say you cannot disagree with the scriptures being shared with you here in the posts that have been provided, then say this is not what you were talking about in your discussion. I was not making any comments about anything in your discussion. As posted earlier I was only pointing out that in regards to Gods' 4th commandment being abolished and Sunday as a day of worship, these are simply man-made teachings and traditions that are not biblical and Jesus says that if we knowingly follow them while breaking Gods' commandments we are not worshiping God as shown in Matthew 15:3-9. So why is this important? Sin which is defined in the scriptures as knowingly breaking anyone of God's commandments which James and John call the transgression of Gods' law *James 2:10-11; 1 John 3:4 because the purpose of Gods' law in the new covenant is to give us a knowledge of what sin is *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7 and those who knowingly practice sin after Gods' gives us a knowledge of the truth of His Word according to Acts of the Apostles 17:30-31 and Hebrews 10:26-31 are in danger of the judgement.

God bless.
 
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Well to be honest I do not think you have addressed anything in those posts shared with you accept to seek to make my argument something I have never said.
Well, you definitely did recast the issue and changed it in at least three ways. That means that I cannot give you the answer you want because the actual issue was not addressed.

You say you cannot disagree with the scriptures being shared with you here in the posts that have been provided...
No, I said that I cannot disagree with the proposition that following mere human traditions is going to lead someone astray. However, the issue on this thread wasn't about that. It was about what the Bible teaches concerning Sunday worship.

No one said you were talking about these things in the discussion.
If not, then there's no problem but just a misundertanding.

nAs posted earlier I was only pointing out that these in regards to Gods' 4th commandment being abolished and Sunday worship are simply man-made teachings and traditions that are not biblical and Jesus says that if we knowingly follow them we are not worshiping God.
That is what you wrote, but no one has been claiming that the 4th amendment is abolished and no one is claiming that man-made teachings and traditions are what should be followed or what IS being followed in this regard.
 
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Who said anything about changing a day here or there?


Hi klutedavid,

Um ... Albion? :flushed: He made a declarative statement indicating that he has biblical authorization for Sunday observance. Yet when pressed to supply said evidence he has been reticent to do so.

God bless.

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Hi klutedavid,

Um ... Albion? :flushed: He made a declarative statement indicating that he has biblical authorization for Sunday observance. Yet when pressed to supply said evidence he has been reticent to do so.

And now for the needed correction...

Albion referred readers to Post #461 of this thread in which there is a link to an article that gives, with commentary, all the Bible verses that Sunday worship is based upon.

Interestingly enough, however, all the contributing Sabbatarians declined to look at those verses since they preferred to go on saying there aren't any or that Sunday worshippers have abolished the 4th Commandment or just are following "man-made teachings and traditions."

Still in all, the floor is still open if any Sabbatarian wants to discuss the actual issues here instead of the ones they carry around with them in case they get into a discussion with someone who isn't a Sabbatarian.
 
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Well, you definitely did recast the issue and changed it in at least three ways. That means that I cannot give you the answer you want because the actual issue was not addressed. No, I said that I cannot disagree with the proposition that following mere human traditions is going to lead someone astray. However, the issue on this thread wasn't about that. It was about what the Bible teaches concerning Sunday worship If not, then there's no problem but just a misundertanding. That is what you wrote, but no one has been claiming that the 4th amendment is abolished and no one is claiming that man-made teachings and traditions are what should be followed or what IS being followed in this regard.
Hi Albion. Your making arguments here again in regards to my posts that no one is talking about. Perhaps it might be best if you prayerfully re-read posts # 483 linked; with clarification provided in post # 488 linked and post # 490 linked. I will leave the rest between you and God to work through.

Take Care :wave:
 
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Hi Albion. Your making arguments here again in regards to my posts that no one is talking about. Perhaps it might be best if you prayerfully re-read posts # 483 linked; with clarification provided in post # 488 linked and post # 490 linked. I will leave the rest between you and God to work through.

Take Care :wave:
The debate has gone on too long, I know. But all the facts are out there, thanks to one or another of the contributors to this thread, and the posts and links are identified, so anyone hereafter who is interested in the Scriptural basis for Sunday worship can find it.

(And that doesn't have anything to do with switching the Sabbath, abolishing any of the Commandments, following a manmade tradition which is without Bible backing, none of that).

Cheers :wave:
 
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And now for the needed correction...

Albion referred readers to Post #461 of this thread in which there is a link to an article that gives, with commentary, all the Bible verses that Sunday worship is based upon.

Interestingly enough, however, all the contributing Sabbatarians declined to look at those verses since they preferred to go on saying there aren't any or that Sunday worshippers have abolished the 4th Commandment or just are following "man-made teachings and traditions."

Still in all, the floor is still open if any Sabbatarian wants to discuss the actual issues here instead of the ones they carry around with them in case they get into a discussion with someone who isn't a Sabbatarian.


Hi Albion,

I looked at the Matt Slick article and it does pretty much what I suggested it would. As far as I could tell there was no authorization for Sunday observance. But if you think otherwise please do select out his best argument(s) and post them here and we can examine them together.

I posted my ten reasons I'm a Sabbatarian. So far no one has engaged, let alone refuted any of those ten reasons. Makes one wonder why?

God bless.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
 
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Hi klutedavid,

Um ... Albion? :flushed: He made a declarative statement indicating that he has biblical authorization for Sunday observance. Yet when pressed to supply said evidence he has been reticent to do so.

God bless.

But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
Albion is probably not under the law, not under the Old Testament, not under the old covenant. Albion is probably under grace, New Testament, new covenant.
 
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The debate has gone on too long, I know. But all the facts are out there, thanks to one or another of the contributors to this thread, and the posts and links are identified, so anyone hereafter who is interested in the Scriptural basis for Sunday worship can find it.
(And that doesn't have anything to do with switching the Sabbath, abolishing any of the Commandments, following a manmade tradition which is without Bible backing, none of that). Cheers :wave:
I think you have missed the point here again to be honest. There is no scriptural basis for Sunday worship as a replacement for obeying God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken. Sunday worship is a man-made teaching and tradition that is not supported in the scriptures as a replacement for God's 4th commandment. It is man-made teaching and tradition of some in the early Church that has led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God which goes against the very warnings given by Jesus himself in Matthew 15:3-9.

Take Care.
 
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I think you misunderstood what John just said. Here it is again.

1 John 3:5-6
You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. No one who abides in Him sins.

1 John 3:9
No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
No we understand John. Especially the part where he says, "no one THAT abides in Him sins." Little children be not deceived he that does righteousness is righteous. EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS. HE THAT SINS IS OF THE DEVIL, for the Devil hath sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of was manifested. TO DESTROY THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL.

So what is this sin that we who are in Christ don't do?
This sin that IF WE DO IT WE ARE OF THE DEVIL?
 
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Think whatever you want. What I know is that I'm tired of playing this same game on every one of the many SDA threads that promote the OT Sabbath.

The claim is made, then proof is demanded, then when it's given it gets dismissed out of hand, even though it's straight from the Bible. You said, BTW, that Sabbath Blessings took them on, but what I saw was a serving of NT verses that are not the proof texts that justify Sunday worship, but some others that might be seen as contradicting them.

All along, the Sabbatarians knew the relevant NT verses, of course, because the thread is an exercise in evangelism that has been taught to members no less than Mormon missionaries and Jehovah's Witnesses are trained in how to debate non-members--what to ask the people, how to finesse the answer they surely will give--and so on. And I also know that to be so because of the pattern of posts that was evident on previous threads dealing with this same subject and featuring many of the same posters.

Here today, you're asking for verses/proof when I did go so far as to give a website that lists them all...with commentary. But the game continues anyway.

I'm repeating this only because you make it a point to be polite in your posts, which not everyone does. Thank you.
I have never seen you post anything other than subjective opinion. Why is that? Typically no verses or anything objective. Just your opinion; how you feel about it. No proof in the pudding bud.

I love Colossians it is one of my favorite letters. It is a shame that to many of us get centered on just one thing because it really brings out the Gospel. Colossians 16 is being stated in context to verse 14. We know this by the use of the word therefore. This means that the handwriting to the ordinances mentioned in verse 14 are those to which included, the meat, drink, holydays, New moon and Sabbath days. These are they which are in the Book Of the Law. And also Verse 14 is being stated in the Dative case, Hence why it should be translated Handwriting to the, of the, or in the Ordinances. Here follow along..

Be encouraged because our hearts are united in love And into all the riches, of the full assurance of the understanding into the full recognition. The knowing of the mystery of the God and Father and of the Christ. The Mystery which is Christ in us the hope of Glory. That we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. Striving according to his working, which worketh in us mightily.

So AS we have received Christ Jesus walk ye in Him. Being rooted, built up and established in the faith in Him. We are complete in Him, circumcised in the putting of the body of the sins of the flesh. Buried and risen with Him in baptism, quicken together with HIM walking in newness of life. Having Forgiving us all trespasses. Blotting out the handwriting TO THE ordinances. Not the ordinances themselves but the handwriting to them, in them or of them is what the verse says. THE ONES THAT HAD TO DO WITH FORGIVENESS or when we sinned. Because we have been forgiven all trespasses and are not complete in Him, striving to His working which works in us mightily. He took them out of the way nailing them to the cross.

That is the context. Having spoiled their, the handwriting TO THE Ordinances, power and their authority. He triumphed over them in it, the Cross. Let no man therefore, Because of what was just said judge you in meat, drink or respect of Holy day, new moon or sabbath days. These that were of the handwriting to the ordinances. NOT THE ORDINANCES themselves and certainly not the ten commandments.

Col 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
Col 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
Col 2:7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man THEREFORE (because of what was just stated) judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
 
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