Covid deaths in UK

I aint taking the concoctions. No way.

Trust in God.

All European countries death rates:

Where in Europe are COVID infections and deaths on the rise?

Its on the rise in the majority of countries.

myst33 said:

All European countries death rates:

Where in Europe are COVID infections and deaths on the rise?

Its on the rise in the majority of countries.

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And the U.S. also it's just starting to look like is going to get rising cases nationally soon overall, instead of only in some states.

It looked like Delta was fading, but now that winter is coming, it's going to spread, and those without any preexisting immunity (whether by vaccine or by previous infections) are going to suffer worse, of course, just like for every other virus from a-z, for the normal reason: immunity helps.

If someone is vaccinated their odds are about 10 times better to survive than for someone unvaccinated and without antibodies yet.

Halbhh said:

If someone is vaccinated their odds are about 10 times better to survive than for someone unvaccinated and without antibodies yet.

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It all depends on the age group, health, immunity etc. For the most people it has no or very mild symptoms, even without any vaccination.

But for unhealthy, obese or other high risk people (with astma, with cancer...) it can probably help to get vaccinated, I have not seen any study proving it, yet. But they will perhaps need to get vaccinated every few months again and again.

myst33 said:

It all depends on the age group, health, immunity etc. For the most people it has no or very mild symptoms, even without any vaccination.

But for unhealthy, obese or other high risk people (with astma, with cancer...) it can probably help to get vaccinated, I have not seen any study proving it, yet. But they will perhaps need to get vaccinated every few months again and again.

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Yep, for my age and health, if I were unvaccinated (I am, but if I were not) then the odds of death if I did get Delta without a vaccination are still less than 1 in 1,000 (for my age).

But the odds of long covid on the other hand, suffering for months and months with awful weakness and so on would be much higher, about 1 in 10.

Long Covid:

• Fatigue
• Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
• Cough
• Joint pain
• Chest pain
• Memory, concentration or sleep problems
• Muscle pain or headache
• Fast or pounding heartbeat
• Loss of smell or taste
• Depression or anxiety
• Fever
• Dizziness when you stand
• Worsened symptoms after physical or mental activities

Months of it.

Halbhh said:

Long Covid:

• Fatigue
• Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
• Cough
• Joint pain
• Chest pain
• Memory, concentration or sleep problems
• Muscle pain or headache
• Fast or pounding heartbeat
• Loss of smell or taste
• Depression or anxiety
• Fever
• Dizziness when you stand
• Worsened symptoms after physical or mental activities

Months of it.

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Does it not depend also on how much of the covid you have got? Because if you have been with somebody positive for 1 minute in a shop or for 8 hours in a work place, its all so different... its very difficult to create any valuable statistics.

myst33 said:

Does it not depend also on how much of the covid you have got? Because if you have been with somebody positive for 1 minute in a shop or for 8 hours in a work place, its all so different... its very difficult to create any valuable statistics.

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yeah, and it might be a lot less risky (but still some risk of course) for a younger person in great health and no risk factors to use that method , but here's some more about it:
A Goldilocks Dose of Coronavirus
But average masks people wear in public can go wrong (in even blocking most of the virus as needed), like slipping down or having a big air gap or being too thin cloth like a gaiter, etc., and maybe at just the wrong moment when someone emitted a huge amount of virus into the air near you, so it's a gamble.

I can't help noticing that autnm is the season when harvests are gather iin and many different type of fruits are available. Is it not the goodness of God that The foods necessary to build us our health and bodily resourcces are provided before the time of year when our immunity is not at it's best during the winter. Also autmn is the season when wild mushrooms grow, they have very little food value, but they are loaded with vitamins. I have long thought that God intends us to eat what is in season, because He know what our bodies need at different times during the year.

Our immune systems are not at the best during the winter, because there is less sunlight during the winter and sunlight is our main source of vitamin D. Vitamin D is a principle immune system vitamin and is very helpful to include in our diet during the winter. It is also good to have a balanced dit during the winter, so that we get the full range of amino acids. Amino acids are the building blocks which our bodies use to create protein and emzynes which are the chemical messagers which regulate the processes in our bodies.

I take vitamin D tablets to keep my immune system is good shape and it can't do any harm to take some during these times of epidemic.

I think living in a group residential where meals and living space is shared just about seems to ensure that everyone gets exposed

I lifted this from the linked article in the OP. It's still worth getting the vaccine, as the unvaccinated have a higher death rate.

Death rates among the unvaccinated are significantly higher.

For people aged over 80, the unvaccinated have a death rate of 125.4 per 100,000 compared to the vaccinated 54.9 per 100,000 in the past four weeks.

For 70-79 the gap is even wider, with the unvaccinated death rate at 103.8 per 100,000 compared to 16.2 for the vaccinated.

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It is also obvious that age is a factor.

In the younger age groups, one death has been reported in the 18-29 fully vaccinated age group.

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For people under 30 years of age, that's one death out of 2683. The remainder were in the older age bracket.

Winter is coming and we don't yet know if it is going to be a bad one, but prices are increasing and not everyone has enough available money to be able to feed themselves properly and adequately heat their homes as well at the same time. This could be a very bad time for those who are already facing financial hardship at this time in both the UK and colder regions in the USA. This is a frightening time for both our countries!

How are folks managing with covid over in the USA. I hope that you are all coping O.K.

Original Happy Camper said:

Revealed: Thousands of double jabbed over 50s have died from COVID in the last 4 weeks

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That's the thing; dying within 28 days of testing positive for Covid and dying FROM Covid - listed on death certificate as main cause of death - are two different things.
That someone could test positive for Covid and then die under a bus, or from their existing cancer is not mentioned. They died within 28 days of a positive test, so it goes in the stats.

There's no way I'll take the poison vaccine.

But here's a thought from UK govt statistics.-

Average age at death all causes for men 79
Average age at death all causes for women 82,9

Average age of death from Covid for men 81
Average age of death from Covid for women 85

So as can be seen, getting Covid adds a couple of years to your life, so why spoil those years with experimental vaccines?

It's starting to get quite cold in many parts of the uk now and this won't be helpful to peoples immune systems. In addtion to that any people who are already infected and suffering with the cold as well are likely to be at increased risk. A long bad winter may just be very bad news this winter.

Francis Drake said:

There's no way I'll take the poison vaccine.

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I wonder why you think that anyone would even develop, never mind promote and accept, a vaccine that was poison?

Francis Drake said:

So as can be seen, getting Covid adds a couple of years to your life,

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Getting Covid can remove years from a person's life, or end it.
Unvaccinated people, who caught Covid have been known to beg for the vaccine - just before they died. Whereas people who have been vaccinated and caught Covid have had it only mildly.

Francis Drake said:

so why spoil those years with experimental vaccines?

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I doubt very much that Covid adds years to anyone's life. What probably happens is that people are living longer and are older when they catch Covid.

It's strange that we have a global pandemic, people start dying, and panicking, Christians, and churches, all over are praying for healing/deliverance, and then, when someone develops a vaccine, some say "that was developed far too quickly; can't possibly be safe".

Strong in Him said:

I doubt very much that Covid adds years to anyone's life.

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Whoever posted that must have got it backwards.