Trump speaks on the Rittenhouse case

Hvizsgyak said:

Enlighten us then, oh wise guru because I think there are alot of people here who think the same way. And I'm just waiting to see what your response is (sorry, I ended my sentence with a verb but you get the meaning).​

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It is not "well, I guess no more police force". What EXACTLY it means depends on what each city may be going for. Likely it means, in part, not buying exmiltary equipment and spending the money on social workers and mental health counsellors who can be used for wellness checks, and checks where violence is less likely.

Of course, there is a WIDE scale of what exactly that looks like but nothing involves "getting rid of the police force". So go read what organizations in your city are ACTUALLY arguing for instead of "bargle bargle, defund the police" if you want to know what kind of changes are being advocated for at the local level.

High Fidelity said:

Simply protecting himself from the situation he forced.

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Sounds like the usual view of the world from a certain extreme. That is...we can do whatever we want because, you see, what we want is right. But you cannot do anything like it yourselves because you are racists or whatever else we have chosen to call you in order to justify us denying you your rights.

BBAS 64 said:

Good Day,

MSN

Bill

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HAHA Bill .. I don't know why but how you just said this and short and sweat made me laugh.. GOOD DAY! Not going to touch this.. last time I got warned yeah.. haha

rambot said:

It is not "well, I guess no more police force". What EXACTLY it means depends on what each city may be going for. Likely it means, in part, not buying exmiltary equipment and spending the money on social workers and mental health counsellors who can be used for wellness checks, and checks where violence is less likely.

Of course, there is a WIDE scale of what exactly that looks like but nothing involves "getting rid of the police force". So go read what organizations in your city are ACTUALLY arguing for instead of "bargle bargle, defund the police" if you want to know what kind of changes are being advocated for at the local level.

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Very good, you are correct in your answer. But my statement took that into account. It's one thing to peacefully protest against something one feels is an injustice in our society but its another thing to tear a place apart and loot stores and on a regular basis. Until this stops, there is no justifiable reason to take vital equipment away from police departments that can be used to stop the rioting quickly.

As I said in another post, Americans need to demand Congress deal with this problem (and I'm not talking about the trigger happy defenders or the extremely destructive rioters) and the problem is the disparity many poor Americans feel. They need a better future and Republicans can't even acknowledge that the poor and lower end of the middle class are suffering and the Democrats just point the finger at White Supremacy built into all of America. There are solutions to our problems but nobody wants to go there because its too difficult. God bless, sorry I sounded so rude but I get tired of the nonsense going back and forth here and in America.

*Starlight* said:

It doesn’t. Are you trolling?

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No. Are you? Might want to read the CF TOS before making personal attacks.

Michael Collum said:

Sounds like someone has been playing too much fallout 3 and 4.

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That's more than can be said about fallout 76.

cow451 said:

No. Are you? Might want to read the CF TOS before making personal attacks.

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I’m not trolling, since I’m actually replying to the content of people’s posts, not quoting them and posting something that doesn’t address it at all.

*Starlight* said:

I’m not trolling, since I’m actually replying to the content of people’s posts, not quoting them and posting something that doesn’t address it at all.

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Same here. Time to move it along.

Aldebaran said:

What's being celebrated is that he successfully defended himself (even though so many people claim a gun is not an effective tool for self defense), and then was vilified and condemned in the popular media, but was eventually exonerated by a jury of his peers in a legal court trial when all the evidence was presented.

Self defense is usually portrayed in the MSM as being "revenge, vigilanteism, or the act of a gun nut". Meanwhile, rioters, looters, arsonists---they've been the ones celebrated by the MSM, and even given a pass by (liberal) city mayors. The general public finally gets to see someone who didn't just stand by and take a brick to the head, or get pulled out of their car and beaten with baseball bats. This is a case where someone actually braved the violence to help people, ended up being attacked, managed to defend himself, was crucified by the MSM, and emerged victorious in the court system. What's not to celebrate?

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No, this is a case of a child trying to play the hero. Meanwhile throwing gasoline on a smoldering fire. If he had stayed home, Nobody's dead in that situation. Instead, he crossed state lines to join a riot with a rifle.

Aldebaran said:

When everyone else brings bricks, laser pointers, firebombs, illegal fireworks, and a taste for violence, a rifle makes sense.

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Yes, if it's going off on your block. You don't drive to a riot with a gun. How is that making things safer?

cow451 said:

Rittenhouse had no business there. He had no personal stake and nothing to offer except for more violence. He was thrill seeking. He was stupid at best, reckless at worst.

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Kyle defended himself. Everyone should have that right.

rturner76 said:

Yes, if it's going off on your block. You don't drive to a riot with a gun. How is that making things safer?

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The fact is Kyle defended himself. What law says he wasn't allowed to be there?

He shot criminals who attacked him. Charge him with murder, its the liberal way.

IWalkAlone said:

Kyle defended himself. Everyone should have that right.

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We do, he's still an idiot for putting himself into that situation.

Desk trauma said:

We do, he's still an idiot for putting himself into that situation.

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He's a kid, they often do dumb things. Whats the excuse for the ones he killed? Are they idiots for putting themselves in that situation? Who attacks someone who's armed? Not very intelligent. And what wisdom guided the rioters to attend such a violent riot? Were they idiots?

I was disappointed with the way that he was charged and predicted this verdict. They charged him too quickly. It should have been rather obvious that the self defense claims were well justified, but I think that he should have been charged with a general endangerment charge. Now he walks due to incompetence by the prosecution.

IWalkAlone said:

He's a kid, they often do dumb things. Whats the excuse for the ones he killed? Are they idiots for putting themselves in that situation?

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Yes.

IWalkAlone said:

And what wisdom guided the rioters to attend such a violent riot? Were they idiots?

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Yes.