The Good News of the Kingdom

lared · Mar 24, 2003

Norstar,

What i found so impressive about the stats were the number of hours that were spent preaching the good news of the kingdom. Well over a billion hours! Just in one year!

That is incredible by such an insignificant minority religous group.

I know that when I have personally asked people....who is it that comes to you on a regular basis with a Bible message.....the answer is always Jehovah's Witnesses! Never do they say....a Methodist, Presbyterian, or a Lutheran!

And so many congregations! Almost 100,000! In some 235 lands!

It certainly is exciting to see the good news being brought to all people and everyone having an opportunity to respond to it!!

It is very faith strengthening!

Sincerely, Lared

Ratioann · Mar 24, 2003

Mormons are good at it too, they do alot of mission work. But just because you are good at sharing doesn't make you right.

Taffsadar · Mar 24, 2003

Yesterday at 11:32 PM n0rstar said this in Post #12
I am sorry you feel that way about our works. As an unbaptized Publisher of the Jehovahs Witness orginization, I have to disagree on some of the points you bring out, and the reputation your tryen to put on the congregation. I feel as if I shouldn't have to defend the congregation, as for the works speak for themselves. But with alligations such as these, I can't help but to shed light on some of the things it is your proclaiming about the orginization. I hope that also what I am about to share, helps your obviously malice opinion of the work of the good news, and of the faithful and discreet slave class.

 

Sorry if that came out as slightly over hostile... It's not the people I hate it's the actions (quoting a JW about homosexuality...). I have personally seen the things I mentioned, Child abusers do get protected by the organisation (http://www.silentlambs.org) I have met them. The organisation do employ typical sectish behaviour like "lovebombing" (compare how they are before and after they love bomb you...).

 

Yesterday at 11:32 PM n0rstar said this in Post #12

"All your friends and family will die soon"

True, in the society we live in today, can you honestly say that you are guaranteed to live tomarrow? certinly not as James 4:14 says: "You do not know what your life will be tomorrow." So it must be urgent for us to change the course of our lifes. Which is to truely show reptentance (Mat 3:12; Rom 2:4)

Luckily enough will we survive longer than the Watchtower claims... Who have forgotten the failures, 1873 1914, 1925 and 1975? Btw Try to get an "Awake!" from 1995 or so and compare the traditional small warning about Armageddon. It has changed without mentioning...

Yesterday at 11:32 PM n0rstar said this in Post #12 No, Jehovahs Witness's will not protect child abusers. We have to obey the laws of the land like anyone else (Rom 13:1-4) If after he has been persecuted, and set free by the judicial system, he can then repent of his sins, and come back (This process is both long, and not easy, just saying your sorry doesn't cut it, first you can file an appeal with the elders, then if your evidence that you commited the sin is greater, you will be disfellowshipped. and there is regulations to this, after 1 year, u can file an appeal to be reinstated, and if you have proven that you have shown TRUE repentance, you may be allowed back - at no time during bein disfellowshipped, are you NOT allowed to the hall) 

 

Thats the official response as I said check http://www.silentlambs.org .

Yesterday at 11:32 PM n0rstar said this in Post #12
and throw you out if you doesn't agree with our leaders.

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SO if one was NOT upholding the commandments of Jehovah or Jesus, you will be councled, and if you continue to commit adultry, fornication, smoken, stealing, killing - you will be disfelloweshipped (this does not mean your not allowed to the hall, it means you can not be a baptized member of the congregation) Unless your actions interfer with the meeting in progress, then you will most likely be escourted out of the hall.

 

 

But oddly enough you can also get DFed by not agreeing with some teachings contrary to the bible. http://pub.alxnet.se/guestbook?id=2331568 go to that link and ask Benny Sikter about his DF (it's in Swedish but no one minds people speaking English).

Yesterday at 11:32 PM n0rstar said this in Post #12Your also forced to spend alot of time preaching to unintrested people without getting paid.

No, the preaching work is 100% voluntary. The missionarys that choose of their own free will to go to other nations, countrys and lands are not paid, and are well informed well in advance.

I go out on a regular, of my own free reconnaissance as well as the Brothers and Sisters at the Kingdom Hall I attend.

 

 

Try refusing to go and preach... You won't get much status and the elder will certainly have a chat with you.

Yesterday at 11:32 PM n0rstar said this in Post #12[
And for all this you get to live with the forementioned child abusers!

Once again I am sorry you feel this way about the preaching work of Jehovahs Witness's, I hope that the information I provided for you in synergy with the Watch Tower Orginization, helps you to understand who Jehovahs Witness's realy are.

 

 

I do know what Jehovas Witnesses really are, and it's not as pretty as you want to believe. My suggestion is that you leave them before you get hurt. Ask other former JWs and you will see that my words ring true.

layne · Mar 25, 2003

I am sure that the "good news" is the reason most God fearing people chose to turn to Him. I think the good news is plain and simple, if we live our life according to God's will, He'll reward us with a wonderful future (everlasting life in my opinion).

I agree that some religions/denominations do a good thing by preaching a lot, but that doesn't mean that their religion is right. I believe that God wants us to relay the message of good news, but using that as an excuse to promote religion as well, draws away from the importance of it. If you pray, God will lead you to a good place, and that is not always going to be with one certain group.

lared · Mar 25, 2003

Hi Layne,
Greetings! Nice to hear from you! Hope your health is good!
Sincerely, Lared

OldShepherd · Mar 26, 2003

24th March 2003 at 04:17 PM lared said this in Post #21

What i found so impressive about the stats were the number of hours that were spent preaching the good news of the kingdom. Well over a billion hours! Just in one year!

That is incredible by such an insignificant minority religous group.

If they are such an insignificant minority religious group then why are all the JW bragging about how many members they have. "15 million members! And the only denomination that is growing! Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah,"

edpobre · Mar 26, 2003

19th March 2003 at 08:07 AM lared said this in Post #5

lared,

You left the other thread without answering my questions. So here goes:

If God's kingdom is established in heaven, why did apostle Paul tell the Colossian Christians that they have been "delivered from the power of darkness and TRANSLATED into the kingdom of the Son of his love" (Col. 1:13)?

Where is this "kingdom of God's Son" found? Is this a DIFFERENT kingdom from God's kingdom  in heaven? Which kingdom was preached by Jesus?

Ed

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Dear Ed,
At this time I prefer to hear from others. I am afraid of stating my viewpoint on matters, only to either be deleted or ripped.
Sincerely, Lared

lared,

Are you being honest with me? Or don't you have any answer for my questions?

I don't see any reason why your answer to my above questions would be deleted or ripped. Old Shepherd and Miz Doulos are NOT as bad as others may think.

To be fair to our readers, why don't you give it a shot and let's allow our TRUTH-seekers to evaluate whether your DOCTRINE about the "good news" is TRUE or not? Okay?

Ed

layne · Mar 26, 2003

Hi Lared, I haven't checked this section out for awhile. I have been sick for the past few weeks, and it's finally starting let up.

Please tell your wife that I've been working over time a lot lately, I haven't had time to review her email (as it's pretty long), and I will hopefully have time this weekend!
Thanks, and I hope the two of you are doing well!

Taffsadar · Mar 26, 2003

Today at 06:02 PM lared said this in Post #28

Sorry Ed,
But I did post an answer regarding the good news but it was deleted. I was told that I was preaching an unChristian religion here in the unorthodox section. So, I thought it would be of interest to hear from other zealous christians as to their viewpoint. I am always interested in learning what others think or believe.
I believe the auxilliary questions that are on the original post of this thread are quite important as well.
Your comment regarding the moderators will have to stand on its own merit. I cannot say anything more.
Sincerely, Lared

Could you PM it to me?

Justme · Mar 26, 2003

Hi lared,

I know what the good news of the kingdom is as described by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. As I said before I don.t agree with what they put forth, I see no biblical support for their interpretation, but that is neither here nor there.

That is not what I'm curious about. Many on this board believe much the same thing and yet nobody ever really flat out says so.

As I understand this rapture, physical resurrection process, it means that the goodie-goodies are whisked out of harms way and later return to planet earth to carry on in a paradise world. That is similar to the WBTS doctine to some extent. I don't think anyone here other than JW consider the 'soul sleep' theory, but the belief is similar in some respects.

Therefore, I'm surprised there wasn't more response to that, in fact, I'm surprised it isn't written out in bold capitals in every second post here.

Go figure,

Justme

TruthorApostasy? · Apr 3, 2003

21st March 2003 at 08:19 AM lared said this in Post #10

Jesus preached about the kingdom. What is the good news of the kingdom.

Here is a hint. Take a look at Daniel 2:44.

Sincerely, Lared

 I looked that up in the King James bible and it calls God's kingdom an actual government. I guess that makes sense, there has to be some form of govenment over those in Mathew 5:5 However, there must be some complicated explanation from some greek or hebrew scholar, to make this simple arrangement a complicated mess! It's also a good explanation of how god would accomplish his original purpose of Genesis 1:28 It has to happen somehow, God does not fail in what he purposes to do!

edpobre · Apr 4, 2003

3rd April 2003 at 10:43 PM TruthorApostasy? said this in Post #31 

21st March 2003 at 08:19 AM lared said this in Post ttp://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=727441#post727441">#10

Jesus preached about the kingdom. What is the good news of the kingdom.

Here is a hint. Take a look at Daniel 2:44.

Sincerely, Lared 

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I looked that up in the King James bible and it calls God's kingdom an actual government. I guess that makes sense, there has to be some form of govenment over those in Mathew 5:5 However, there must be some complicated explanation from some greek or hebrew scholar, to make this simple arrangement a complicated mess! It's also a good explanation of how god would accomplish his original purpose of Genesis 1:28 It has to happen somehow, God does not fail in what he purposes to do!

 

Which is this kingdom that God will set up?

How is this kingdom related to the kingdom that God will give His Son as recorded in Luke 1:32-33?

Which kingdom did Jesus and the apostles preach (Matt. 4:23; 9:35; Luke 9:60) - the kingdom mentioned in Daniel 2:44 or the kingdom mentioned in Luke 1:32-33?

Which kingdom is being referred to in Col. 1:13 - the kingdom mentioned in Daniel 2:44 or the kingdom metioned in Luke 1:32-33?

Ed

 

drmmjr · Apr 5, 2003

They're all the same kingdom. The kingdom that Jesus will establish at His Second Coming, when New Jerusalem will be brought down from God out of heaven.

redrubypixie · Sep 1, 2005

lared said:
Jesus foretold that the good news would be preached throughout the earth for a witness to all the nations and then the end would come.-------Matthew 24:14

This being the case, in a nutshell, what do you say, is the good news of the kingdom?

And how will it be delivered to all people around the globe?

Evidently, this would be a most astonishing work to ever take place and yet as Jesus said: only a few are on the narrow road to life, most are on the broad road that leads to destruction. 

Since many people around the earth are illiterate or poorly educated, will they lose out because they do not study ancient Hebrew or Greek?  Or will this good news be simple, clear, and appealing to honest hearted ones?

In other words, will we be able to recognize this good news, and if so how?

Sincerely, Lared

My thoughts exactly!

I am also going to stick around to see where this may go.

redrubypixie · Sep 1, 2005

If you look up the word 'preach' in the dictionary, you will find it says this:

To proclaim or put forth in a sermon: preached the gospel.
To advocate, especially to urge acceptance of or compliance with: preached tolerance and peaceful coexistence.
To deliver (a sermon).

Would you agree that 'preach' relates to the word that non-Christians use to insult hard-working Christians - 'Bible-bashing'?

It is quite clear in the Bible that the world won't like the preaching that we should be doing.

mannysee · Sep 2, 2005

lared said:
Jesus foretold that the good news would be preached throughout the earth for a witness to all the nations and then the end would come.-------Matthew 24:14

This being the case, in a nutshell, what do you say, is the good news of the kingdom?

And how will it be delivered to all people around the globe?

Evidently, this would be a most astonishing work to ever take place and yet as Jesus said: only a few are on the narrow road to life, most are on the broad road that leads to destruction. 

Since many people around the earth are illiterate or poorly educated, will they lose out because they do not study ancient Hebrew or Greek?  Or will this good news be simple, clear, and appealing to honest hearted ones?

In other words, will we be able to recognize this good news, and if so how?

Sincerely, Lared

Hi,

as an introduction to the 'gospel' in action and demonstration, following Jesus Christ's resurrection, you can follow on directly from either of the 4 gospels to Acts and its chapters to become familiar with the 'nutshell'. The gospel generally like any message is delivered by speaking and making an appeal (again see Acts). This indeed is an astonishing work, but one must remember that God is an astonishing God (read about the resurrection). I won't address your quote about 'the narrow road' as it within another part/context of the scriptures, and is another discussion within itself. Yes, there are those who are illiterate and poorly educated, but again, one does not need to become educated about one's conscience.
I think you and i both know that grasping Hebrew or Greek does not determine one's final position.
To those who are perishing, the good news of the kingdom is foolish. However, to those who are being saved, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.
How does one recognize this good news? those who are ordained to eternal life will believe it.

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