Rotterdam police open fire as Covid protest turns into ‘orgy of violence’

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Sorry, I don't do tit for tat.
The subject is getting safe vaccines that have saved lives and will save lives and potentially have saved our culture from collapse, yet this is wrong and authoritarian and worthy of rioting and violence.

How can the trust of government and science got so low, that rediculous safety measures and now proof of 11 month roll out, that it is wrong and evil? Is it actually because paranoia in the society is always there so some will always blow this up to be a vast problem hiding a hidden agenda. And as soon as you realise this, it justifies governments becoming more authoritarian which they are, because sense and experience makes little difference.
 
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No. The reports state the police shot people because they felt their lives were in danger, not because they were destroying property.

Do they make the details of these reports public there? I wonder, because it's good to follow up and make sure the government was within the law.
I'm sure there is an investigation and I'm sure it won't be finished in the next few days.
 
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Well sucks to be you guys. We have this thing called " human rights" because of our constitution.

Given the number of incidents of American police firing on civilians while enforcing curfews and beating up reporters covering protests, I'd say those things are pretty meaningless.
 
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I'm sure there is an investigation and I'm sure it won't be finished in the next few days.

Yeah, because reports are calling the shots "warning shots" which sounds like police were firing wantonly into crowds, not caring who was shot.
 
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Given the number of incidents of American police firing on civilians while enforcing curfews and beating up reporters covering protests, I'd say those things are pretty meaningless.
Those are very rare and usually don't end up well for the police involved.
 
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Well sucks to be you guys. We have this thing called " human rights" because of our constitution.
Where in the Constitution is the right to throw rocks at anyone or start fires on the property that isn't yours?
 
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The subject is getting safe vaccines that have saved lives and will save lives and potentially have saved our culture from collapse, yet this is wrong and authoritarian and worthy of rioting and violence.

How can the trust of government and science got so low, that rediculous safety measures and now proof of 11 month roll out, that it is wrong and evil? Is it actually because paranoia in the society is always there so some will always blow this up to be a vast problem hiding a hidden agenda. And as soon as you realise this, it justifies governments becoming more authoritarian which they are, because sense and experience makes little difference.

No, the subject is the police shooting of unarmed civilians. That's the topic of this thread.
 
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Well sucks to be you guys. We have this thing called " human rights" because of our constitution.
Is that why your cops only get a paid vacation after their kills?
 
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Yeah, because reports are calling the shots "warning shots" which sounds like police were firing wantonly into crowds, not caring who was shot.
Over here, warning shots are generally fired into the air.
 
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Where in the Constitution is the right to throw rocks at anyone or start fires on the property that isn't yours?

Since when do civilized nations shoot people for property destruction though?
 
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Those are very rare and usually don't end up well for the police involved.

I'd say that is true in both countries. My point would be that having the US constitution does not provide some kind of special protection against police mis conduct.

Plus - the Netherlands has a constitution too - with human rights protections.
 
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Plus - the Netherlands has a constitution too - with human rights protections.
All I know is that reports are calling them warning shots. But if the bullets have horizontal entrance wounds, then clearly someone is lying.
 
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What goes up must come down, couldn't that cause serious harm to someone?
It could. Maybe they use fake ammunition that only makes a sound? Or they shoot with non-lethal rubber bullets?
 
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Sorry, I don't do tit for tat.
And that's fine.

You just seemed bothered by white people getting shot at by police in Europe so I assumed you were worried about PEOPLE getting shot by police everywhere.

My mistake!
 
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