worried I may be a fake Christian

Blaise N said:

if anyone could help I’d be so grateful

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Have you found a church that is good with mental illness, yet?

1) God is abundantly willing to save us in spite of all our shortcomings.
2) They can. Satan doesn't bother those who are already in his kingdom. Satan bothers the children of God and tempts them to despair. Our despair is hard for God to bear. God wants us to put our faith in Him no matter what.
3) Perhaps both. Sometimes our faith needs to be tested to wean us from self-dependence and teach us to lean only on God with what faith we have.
4) Yes. Jesus will never leave you nor forsake you. You are in His arms. He sees your struggle and is patient and endearing with us all. Fake Christians don't think about whether their profession is genuine or not.

Praying for you

1. I don't think anyone is forced to believe, it is our free will.
2. You could be overthinking this

As for the inappropriate contentography, I don't believe it is right. If you don't watch it or even think about it. the problem goes away. That is what I learned.

We are all brands plucked from the burning and there is nothing special about any of us. He saves the failures of this world. that those who even feel unworthy. How much greater is He glorified when He saves those that seem like lost cases. He leaves the 99 that are not lost in the fold, while He seeks the one that is lost. He even takes the lost sheep out of the mouth of the lion. He has not forgotten you.

Do you feel a fake? Well, at least that's somewhere to start. He can change that!

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for they shall see our God.

Blaise N said:

Hi everyone,


This is my first time posting on the deeper fellowship page.I’d like to discuss my anxiety on a certain topic I’ve endured for a week.All week I’ve had to endure,I’m not sure if it’s Intrusive thoughts or lies of Satan,the thought/voice saying whenever I pray,reassure myself,or calm myself,it’s a reoccurring “your only forcing yourself to believe.” Everytime and it’s driving me nuts.Years ago(2) when I was still an early Christian but also still in sinning by looking inappropriate contentography.I never had the thought of me forcing myself.Now I am, and now it seems like the thoughts that pass my mind are getting worse and scaring me more.I’m afraid I’m a fake Christian,I’m afraid that somehow I forced myself to believe that now I’m believing a delusion/psyched caused by a lie.I never would willingly think any of these.could I ask a few questions if that’s ok?

1.) Does God want to save me? Absolutely!
2.)Do satans attacks worsen the closer I grow to Jesus? Yes, but if you continue to resist him ... he will flee ... he don't give up easily.
3.)Could anyone think of why I may be enduring this? (Refinement or spiritual maturity)
Satans most commonly used tool is placing doubt in our mind about God.
4.)this past week I’ve been terrified of apostasy,I’ve asked Jesus to never let me commit it or fall,will he always hold onto me? As long as your are willing .... He is willing.

if anyone could help I’d be so grateful

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It is a life long struggle .... we are all going to mess up here and there but don't let that get you down .... just keep getting up and walking with Him and rest easy my friend .... God will indeed keep His promises.

May the Lord bring peace to your mind. Amen.

Blaise N said:

Hi everyone,


This is my first time posting on the deeper fellowship page.I’d like to discuss my anxiety on a certain topic I’ve endured for a week.All week I’ve had to endure,I’m not sure if it’s Intrusive thoughts or lies of Satan,the thought/voice saying whenever I pray,reassure myself,or calm myself,it’s a reoccurring “your only forcing yourself to believe.” Everytime and it’s driving me nuts.Years ago(2) when I was still an early Christian but also still in sinning by looking inappropriate contentography.I never had the thought of me forcing myself.Now I am, and now it seems like the thoughts that pass my mind are getting worse and scaring me more.I’m afraid I’m a fake Christian,I’m afraid that somehow I forced myself to believe that now I’m believing a delusion/psyched caused by a lie.I never would willingly think any of these.could I ask a few questions if that’s ok?

1.) Does God want to save me?
2.)Do satans attacks worsen the closer I grow to Jesus?
3.)Could anyone think of why I may be enduring this? (Refinement or spiritual maturity)
4.)this past week I’ve been terrified of apostasy,I’ve asked Jesus to never let me commit it or fall,will he always hold onto me?

if anyone could help I’d be so grateful

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Lets put your question 1. last.



You know the answer to number 2, or you suspect it, that satan only chases after the ones who are not already his...


Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.



It is the ones I would defend or help myself, the ones I do not know, if they are with God or with satan I can tell about anyone confident, that they are not with Christ, I need more time to see others, when struggling, it is a token that they may be a sincere one, but I never fond many just yet)...



Luke 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.




Yes, is the answer to 3, it would be refinement, as that comes in fire..



Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.


Apostasy, or denial of the religion, well here is the way to not deny it, it will calm you, especially if you love your family, you will know to not deny the faith, is to only be kind and loving ( to all as God is)



1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.






Now you can decide number one, because if you re asking, you should be answered.

Blaise N said:

1.) Does God want to save me?

YES

2.)Do satans attacks worsen the closer I grow to Jesus?

Can do... but regular bible reading, healthy loving fellowship, and understanding and exercising the authority in His Name will deal with it.

3.)Could anyone think of why I may be enduring this? (Refinement or spiritual maturity)

God's Love is supreme, He will not allow you to be tempted more than you are able. Ask Him to show you the way of escape...

Coming through this to a place of strength will mean He will be able to use you to help others.

1 Corinthians 10:13
No temptation has overtaken you except something common to mankind; and God is faithful, so He will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.

4.)this past week I’ve been terrified of apostasy,I’ve asked Jesus to never let me commit it or fall,will he always hold onto me?

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2 Timothy 2:13
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

The fear fo the Lord is good and keeps us from falling away.

Ask Him to make you aware of the difference between His good fear, and the fear from the accuser... and to teach you how to deal with it when needed.

I need to ask - are you in a healthy Loving fellowship with elders who can stand with you and deal with spiritual opposition?

Blaise N said:

Hi everyone,


This is my first time posting on the deeper fellowship page.I’d like to discuss my anxiety on a certain topic I’ve endured for a week.All week I’ve had to endure,I’m not sure if it’s Intrusive thoughts or lies of Satan,the thought/voice saying whenever I pray,reassure myself,or calm myself,it’s a reoccurring “your only forcing yourself to believe.” Everytime and it’s driving me nuts.Years ago(2) when I was still an early Christian but also still in sinning by looking inappropriate contentography.I never had the thought of me forcing myself.Now I am, and now it seems like the thoughts that pass my mind are getting worse and scaring me more.I’m afraid I’m a fake Christian,I’m afraid that somehow I forced myself to believe that now I’m believing a delusion/psyched caused by a lie.I never would willingly think any of these.could I ask a few questions if that’s ok?

1.) Does God want to save me?
2.)Do satans attacks worsen the closer I grow to Jesus?
3.)Could anyone think of why I may be enduring this? (Refinement or spiritual maturity)
4.)this past week I’ve been terrified of apostasy,I’ve asked Jesus to never let me commit it or fall,will he always hold onto me?

if anyone could help I’d be so grateful

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You kind of need a hospital church, not in a literal hospital, but a church that can give you all the attention and healing you need. In person.

The teaching and example is to endure all things for the sake of others, to also obtain, to be dead with Christ, and to then live in righteousness ( belief) suffering with Him, is reigning with Christ ( the devil wants us to live in pleasure and say we are faithful)

To deny all of that, is to deny Christ, we are denied, we did not then believe, Christ is faithful, not faithless as man...




2 Timothy 2:0 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.




Fear of God cant be taught also, as the Messiah is the example, of the Spirit of the fear of God ( we believe, we receive the Spirit, we do not need man or pastors)


Isaiah 11:2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

1 John 2: 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Israel has a spiritual church, yet is not healed at all.

But we need God to give us His understanding heart, then we be converted, then we are healed ( by Christ and not men) Many trust in men, but that is why many are called, but few chosen by God ( who trusted Him a,lone and not men and spirits of deception)



Matthew 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.



Here is the way, we are taught by Christ or by men who deceive, and the way of God is, we lay aside all lies, and all speakings of our own evil mind, we desire the word to be sincere.

Jesus was disallowed of men, so we go to Him ( not to the same men), that's their hypocrisy)

Then we are built up that Spiritual house, we do not need to go to one ( we are built as one ourselves with Christ in us) and then we understand, those who believe in Christ, are the only ones who will not end up being ashamed..


1 Peter 2:Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Faithful777 said:

Fear of God cant be taught also, as the Messiah is the example, of the Spirit of the fear of God ( we believe, we receive the Spirit, we do not need man or pastors)

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My journey out of darkness a depravity took seven years and it was often a lonely road. There were however, along the way, appointed believers who stood with me and were used of Him. There is significant authority in action when the Body works together in a healthy way - unity in prayer and proclamation is very powerful. While the ultimate goal is the stand strong in Him, the gates of Hell will not prevail against the ecclesia. A significant difference between the covenants is that in the New Covenant with the birth of the Body of Christ - spirituality is no longer an individual sport.

Blaise N said:

Hi everyone,


This is my first time posting on the deeper fellowship page.I’d like to discuss my anxiety on a certain topic I’ve endured for a week.All week I’ve had to endure,I’m not sure if it’s Intrusive thoughts or lies of Satan,the thought/voice saying whenever I pray,reassure myself,or calm myself,it’s a reoccurring “your only forcing yourself to believe.” Everytime and it’s driving me nuts.Years ago(2) when I was still an early Christian but also still in sinning by looking inappropriate contentography.I never had the thought of me forcing myself.Now I am, and now it seems like the thoughts that pass my mind are getting worse and scaring me more.I’m afraid I’m a fake Christian,I’m afraid that somehow I forced myself to believe that now I’m believing a delusion/psyched caused by a lie.I never would willingly think any of these.could I ask a few questions if that’s ok?

1.) Does God want to save me?
2.)Do satans attacks worsen the closer I grow to Jesus?
3.)Could anyone think of why I may be enduring this? (Refinement or spiritual maturity)
4.)this past week I’ve been terrified of apostasy,I’ve asked Jesus to never let me commit it or fall,will he always hold onto me?

if anyone could help I’d be so grateful

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You are not alone in your thoughts. When in doubt remember how much God loves you and will never forsake you.
If you were a fake Christian you would not be seeking these answers. Satan is relentless the closer you get to God
God bless you and keep you.
Love yourself!
Happy Thanksgiving

Our own testimony:


John 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.
34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.




Trust man, or trust God ( cant trust both)




Psalm 31:19 Oh how great is thy goodness, which thou hast laid up for them that fear thee; which thou hast wrought for them that trust in thee before the sons of men!
20 Thou shalt hide them in the secret of thy presence from the pride of man: thou shalt keep them secretly in a pavilion from the strife of tongues.

Psalm 34:6 This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.
7 The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.
8 O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Psalm 84:10 For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand. I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.
11 For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
12 O Lord of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee.



Jeremiah 17:5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.
6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is.
8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.


Isaiah 2:22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
23 That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.
24 Yea, they shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.

Love ourselves, our own lives, or love the lives of others, love the life of Christ, love the Gospel and not our own news..



Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

John 12:25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

1 Peter 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Balise N - I commend you for your concern. I dare say that the Church would be much better off if most Christians asked themselves about the sincerity of their commitment, instead of just assuming that their salvation was assured.

Spirituality, is the one joined to the Lord as one, very individual.

Then how we are to be judged, very individual..



Proverbs 11:20 They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the Lord: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.
21 Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.

Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

1 Corinthians 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Even Judas questioned, but was not sincere, what matters then is sincerity?


Matthew 26:25 Then Judas, which betrayed him, answered and said, Master, is it I? He said unto him, Thou hast said.

What we are to do is judge ourselves, not question, but to see in all the judgement of Christ, what we should be doing, or we will be judged..


1 Corinthians 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.