Can Salvation be lost?

friend of said:

Yes, Jesus wants us to repent. But He also said this before the New Testament of salvation by faith was ushered in by His atoning death. He was speaking to those under the law.

What about all the verses about salvation by faith alone? Don't act like they aren't numerous in the Bible:

1 John 5:13
John 5:24
John 1:12-13
Acts of the Apostles 16:30-31
Romans 1:16
Romans 10:9
Romans 10:5
Romans 3:27-28
Romans 3:19-20
Galatians 2:20-21
Galatians 2:16
Galatians 3:12
Ephesians 1:13-14
Titus 3:4-7
Ephesians 2:8-9
Romans 4:2
Romans 4:5

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You also are failing to realize that Paul was arguing against a heresy at that time of which I call, “Circumcision Salvationism.” Check out my post here again to learn more about it with Scripture. To fail to understand this truth in God’s Word is to ignore context and what is going on. Paul was fighting against people who thought they had to be initially circumcised to be initially saved (Instead of being saved initially by God’s grace through faith in Jesus Christ).

Think.

If a person thought they had to be circumcised to be initially saved, they would be making the Law or a work the basis or foundation of their salvation. So this is why Paul spoke in the way he did against the Law and works.

Paul was condemning Works ALONE Salvationism (Without God’s grace) via by the 613 Laws of Moses (Which is a contract that was given to Israel and not the church).

Paul was not condemning how we need to obey Jesus after we are saved by God’s grace. That would mean Paul would be against Christ if such were the case. But Paul himself basically says that if any man does not agree with the words of Jesus and the doctrine of godliness, they are proud, and they know nothing (1 Timothy 6:3-4). James 4:6 says God resists the proud and he gives grace to the humble.

Anyways, I do not think you are reading my posts.
You also are not providing a logical explanation for the verses I put forth to you, as well. In my view, your position has to change too many verses in Scripture that clearly goes beyond what they plainly say.
So I think it is best we move on (Unless you read my posts, and you provide an adequate explanation to the verses I presented).

Bible Highlighter said:

God's grace, and then Sanctification is what we as believers need to be focused on. For if we are saved by His grace, and sanctified (which is only made possible by the Provisional Atonement), then we will be glorified

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Romans 8:29-30

Bible Highlighter said:

Anyways, I do not think you are reading my posts.
You also are not providing a logical explanation for the verses I put forth to you, as well. In my view, your position has to change too many verses in Scripture that clearly goes beyond what they plainly say.
So I think it is best we move on (Unless you read my posts, and you provide an adequate explanation to the verses I presented)

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Okay. You ignored all the verses I posted in post #593. I think it's best we stop the debate, because I'm not going to respond to everything you've written.

Bible Highlighter said:

What if a Christian who generally lived a holy life looks upon a woman in lust and then gets hit by a bus before they got a chance to confess of their sins? Is he saved?

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This is legalism. This is what legalism IS. Sin once = go to hell. This is an impossible burden for God to lay on anyone, hence Christ. If Christ's blood does not cover thought-sin, then what does it cover in your view? Nothing I guess.

friend of said:

This is legalism. This is what legalism IS. Sin once = go to hell. This is an impossible burden for God to lay on anyone, hence Christ. If Christ's blood does not cover thought-sin, then what does it cover in your view? Nothing I guess.

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The blood of Christ is to purge our conscience, from evil to good.


It shows all know we are required to do good, to do well, but that belief in a way out from falling is maintained.


It also highlights, all know the possibilities of losing salvation, but all do not want that to be the final conclusion, so the discussions are always about and for the cause of hope, of the faith being alive, of a purpose to believe and have comfort in following God in our life.


The real topics I can see now are can hope and belief be lost, and the answers given show how much nobody will lose their hope or belief, because it is all they have.

If another topic would balance these most popular ones, it would be, can we ever stop showing our desire is for ourselves, and not for others, can anyone, even including me, ever stop feeling the need for talking, for building ourselves up, verifying our souls, and ever escape from all we want for ourselves, until we die?

friend of said:

Yes, Jesus wants us to repent.

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Jesus says, “I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:3).
What does repent mean?
It means to seek forgiveness with the Lord Jesus over one’s past life of sin or recent sin with the intention that one will not commit that sin again.
After a believer comes to the faith, any new spiritual death sins (like murder, adultery, hate, etc.) that are not confessed to the Lord Jesus with a godly sorrow in desiring to overcome them leads to the second death (i.e. the Lake of Fire).

We see in Acts of the Apostles 8:22 a clear example of Peter telling Simon to "repent" of his wickedness in trying to pay for the Holy Spirit. Peter is telling Simon to make a prayer towards God. For Peter says that he should pray that God might forgive him. In other words, Peter is telling Simon to repent of a one time event of wickedness by way of prayer to GOD. This only makes sense if "repent" means to "ask for forgiveness." Peter also was saying that Simon was not saved because his heart was not right with God over his wrong action.

Bible Highlighter said:

Jesus told people basically to repent or perish. Not sure why you think His words do not apply for us as believers

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You said:

But He also said this before the New Testament of salvation by faith was ushered in by His atoning death. He was speaking to those under the law.

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Sorry, I am not buying it. Jesus’ death began the New Covenant or New Testament; And we clearly see repentance repeated after the cross in Scripture. God now commands all men everywhere to repent in Acts 17 (Which is clearly a time of the New Covenant).

“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:” (Acts of the Apostles 17:30).

You said:

What about all the verses about salvation by faith alone? Don't act like they aren't numerous in the Bible:

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We have to look at the whole counsel of God’s Word to get a comprehensive picture of salvation.

You said:

1 John 5:13

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1 John 5:13 says,
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”

First, looking at the context, it says:

“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” (1 John 5:3).

Paul says anyone who does not love the Lord Jesus Christ let him be accursed (See: 1 Corinthians 16:22).

1 John 2:4 says, “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”

Revelation 21:8 says all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire.
What truth is not in a person if they do not keep the Lord’s commandments?
Jesus. For Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6).
Can one have salvation without Jesus?
Surely not.
1 John 5:12 says, “He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”
So how do we have an assurance that we know Jesus and have eternal life?
Well, if we find that we are keeping His commandments (See: 1 John 2:3).

1 John 5:19 says,
“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.”

This means that there is a difference between a believer and an unbeliever. But by what you said, you believe that a believer can sin and still be saved (Which makes a believer no different than that of the world who lies in wickedness).

Second, believing in Jesus is more than just a belief alone in the person of Jesus for salvation.
Believing in Jesus includes believing in everything He taught, said, and did.

For if we receive not the words of Jesus, those words will judge us on the last day (John 12:48).

Also,

The will of the Father (God) is our sanctification (See: 1 Thessalonians 4:3).


1 Timothy 5:8 says, “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” An infidel is an unbeliever. If faith is exclusively a belief alone then how can a person deny the faith by their misconduct?

1 Timothy 6:12 says, “Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life,” We have to FIGHT the good fight of faith in order to lay hold on eternal life. So faith is something we have to fight for and it is not exclusively a belief alone. Sure, faith can start off as a belief alone in Jesus (in trusting in His grace for salvation). But that is how we are initially, and foundationally saved. Faith progresses, grows, and changes into the “work of faith” (See: 1 Thessalonians 1:3, and 2 Thessalonians 1:11), or the “obedience to the faith" (or obedience of faith) (See: Romans 1:5, Romans 16:26).

John 3:36 (The Greek word “apeitheō” used in John 3:36 for “believeth not” (KJB) is translated as “obey not” or “disobedient” in other English bible verses. For example: 1 Peter 3:1, and 1 Peter 3:20 translates apeitheō as “obey not” or “disobedient” and it is used context to being disobedient in regards to one’s righteous conduct (Whereas John 3:36 is translated as believeth not” in the King James Bible). Some translations render the KJB’s John 3:36 “believeth not" as “obey not” in other Translations (NLT, ESV, BLB, NASB, ASV, EXB, GNT). In other words, “believeth not” is synonymous with “obey not.” In fact, you can check this Greek word for yourself and it's usage here at BlueLetterBible.

G544 - apeitheō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (KJV)

friend of said:

John 5:24

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John 5:24 says,
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

There are three pieces of Scripture that teach that we are saved by both Justification and Sanctification. John 5:24 is one of these portions of God’s Word (Note: The red letters are in reference to Sanctification, and the letters in blue, are in reference to Justification).

Verse #1.


(Note: Verse 12, says that there are those who are damned who believed not the truth and had pleasure in unrighteousness. Verses 16-17 in 2 Thessalonians 2 mentions faith and works in context, as well). The gospel is defined for us in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, but the “call of the gospel” is… God has chosen us to salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit and a belief of the truth.

Verse #2.


(Note on John 5:24: The EXB Translation explains that the word "hear" is to: "obey."; Meaning, we have to believe in Jesus and obey Him to not perish. Acts of the Apostles 3:23 confirms this. It says that if anyone does not hear that prophet (JESUS), they shall be destroyed).

Verse #3.


(Note: Most Christians believe that the phrase "justified by faith" is dealing with salvation; If this is what you believe, you must then also be consistent with the use of this word "justified," and we should use this one word in the same way in relation to works within the same verse.).

friend of said:

John 1:12-13

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John 1:12-13 says,
“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”

This passage mentions… “sons of God.”

Can a person be a son of God by a belief alone in Jesus?
Well, while this verse does say that a person can be a son of God by just having a belief on His name, we have to look at the whole counsel of God’s Word, too.

We know that those who are born of him (i.e. a son of God) does righteousness.

“If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.” (1 John 2:29).

In fact, we can tell the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil in the fact that he that does not righteousness is not of God, and neither that person who does not love his brother.

“In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:10).

Is a person who sins doing righteousness or loving their brother?

Jesus said,
“…Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever:…” (John 8:34-35).

This truth in John 8:34-35 points us back to Matthew 13:41-42 whereby the Son of man (Jesus) will send forth His angels and they will gather out of HIS KINGDOM those who do iniquity and they will be cast into the furnace of fire (i.e. the Lake of Fire). Hence, the servant (i.e. the servant of sin) will not abide in the house of Christ forever. For they will be cast out into the furnace of fire because they justified sin and or evil under God’s grace.

Side Note:

So how can John 1:12-13 be true? Well, I believe that a person can accept Jesus as their Savior or believe on His name for salvation before they shortly die like the thief on the cross. But for those who live out their faith, they have to be faithful. For the Bible even talks about how we need to be faithful. Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life (Revelation 2:10).

friend of said:

Acts of the Apostles 16:30-31

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Acts of the Apostles 16:30-31 says,
“And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

You also have to look at the whole counsel of Paul’s words.
Paul also said, “For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,” (Romans 15:18).
Paul also says that there is a call of the gospel in 2 Thessalonians 2:14, and this call of the gospel says in 2 Thessalonians 2:13 that…. God has chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and a belief of the truth. Paul also says that a person can deny God by being reprobate unto every good work (Titus 1:16). Jesus says if we love Him, we will keep His commandments (John 14:15). Paul says if any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be accursed (1 Corinthians 16:22).
Paul also says that if any man does not agree with the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine according to godliness, he is proud and he knows nothing, he is proud and he knows nothing (1 Timothy 6:3-4).
James 4:6 says God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. So in Acts of the Apostles 16:30-31, Paul is referring to how the jail or needs to be initially saved by God’s grace, and Paul is not referring to other aspects of salvation (like Sanctification). For a person first needs to be saved initially by God’s grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Also, as I said before, believing in Jesus is more than just having a Belief Alone in Jesus. We also have to believe in everything Jesus taught, said, and did, too.

Anyways, if you were to skip back a chapter, you would understand that the apostles had addressed the heresy of the problem of which I call, “Circumcision Salvationism.” This was a false belief that said that you had to be circumcised in order to be initially saved (See: Acts of the Apostles 15:1, Acts of the Apostles 15:5, and Acts of the Apostles 15:24). Paul himself said, “if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.” (Galatians 5:2). Circumcision was a part of the 613 Laws of Moses. So when Paul spoke negatively of the law or works in relation to salvation, he was referring to the 613 Laws of Moses (Which was a set of laws given to Israel and not the church).

friend of said:

Romans 1:16

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Romans 1:16 says, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

This verse is 100% true. However, this verse is referring to Initial and Foundational Salvation.
We know that the gospel calls us, too (2 Thessalonians 2:14).
This call is God has chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and a belief of the truth. So salvation continues. Also, Titus 2:11-12 says God’s grace teaches us to deny ungodliness, and that we should live righteously and godly in this present world. Is godliness essential to salvation? Well, Hebrews 12:14 says that without holiness, no man shall see the Lord. Hebrews 5:9 basically says that Jesus is the author of eternal salvation all those who obey Him. In fact, Romans 2:5-7 says, “God… will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life.”

So you have to again, look at the whole counsel of God’s Word on the topic of Soteriology.

friend of said:

Romans 10:9

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Romans 10:9 says,
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

This is in part referring to Initial Salvation.
But this is not the final word even on Initial Salvation.
There are other things we are obligated to do if such truths are revealed to us.

For we also learn that whosoever calls upon the name shall be saved.

“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:13).

We also know that this confessing Jesus with the mouth is not only for Initial Salvation, but it also involves as a part of the process of our Continued Salvation, as well.

“For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” (Romans 10:10-11).

Why should a believer not be ashamed? Well, if they continue to confess Jesus Christ throughout their life, they will not be ashamed of Him. So this suggests confession of Christ continues beyond being initially saved.

Luke 9:26 says, “For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.”

Luke 12:8-9 says,
“Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.”

So we cannot deny Jesus and we have to confess Him. If not, we are not going to make it.

Also, as another poster pointed out there is the passage in Romans 11, too (Which is the next chapter). For it says:

“For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.”
(Romans 11:21-22).

Who are the natural branches?
The Jews.
We are told that we can be cut off just like the Jews if we do not continue in His goodness.
What goodness is God referring to?
Living holy and righteous.

“For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
(Philippians 2:13).

For again, Paul said,
“For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,” (Romans 15:18).

friend of said:

Romans 10:5

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Romans 10:5 says,
“For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.”

What Law is Paul talking about here?
This would be the 613 Laws of Moses given to Israel as a whole or contract deal or package. For Moses is describing this Law here.

Now, is Paul condemning the Moral Law (like do not murder, do not steal, do not covet, etc.)?
Certainly not. For Paul lists various sins in Galatians 5:19-21 that would be a violation of the Moral Law (like murders, adultery, idolatry, etc.), and says that that they which do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

So what aspect of the Old Law was Paul condemning?
I believe he was condemning the ceremonial laws, and judicial laws given to Israel. Paul is condemning those who thought they had to be circumcised so as to be saved as a part of the 613 Laws of Moses.

1. Romans 2:28-29 says, “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”
   
   
2. Romans 3:1 says, “What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?”
   
   
3. Romans 4:9-12 says, ”9 “Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. 10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. 11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: 12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.”

So is Paul condemning the Law or command to believe on the name of Jesus Christ and to love one another?

“And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.” (1 John 3:23).

Are we not saved by believing in the name of Jesus Christ?
So if Paul is condemning all forms of Laws or commandment keeping in relation to salvation, then he would have to condemn the command to believe in Jesus, too? But if that is the case, then we have a contradiction in Scripture. So obviously Paul is not referring to all laws when he speaks about the Law or works negatively in being saved by God’s grace. In fact, there are grace commands in the New Testament, as well.

Anyways, we are not under the 613 Law of Moses as a whole or package deal.
We are under the Law of Christ.

“To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.” (1 Corinthians 9:21).

2 Timothy 4:1-5

friend of said:

Romans 3:27-28

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“Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”
(Romans 3:27-28).

Again, what Law or works is Paul talking about here?

“What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?” (Romans 3:1).

Paul is trying to convince the Roman believers of salvation by God’s grace as to how they were initially saved and to how they are foundationally saved. A believer does not do a good work to redeem sin. They have to go to God’s grace and that is by confessing their sins to Jesus Christ to be forgiven of those sins (1 John 2:1, 1 John 1:9). For he that confesses and forsakes sin shall have mercy (Proverbs 28:13). Hebrews 4:16 says, “Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.” “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:13).

But… Jesus also says, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21).

So what Paul is saying in Romans 3:27 is that we are not justified by keeping the Law of Moses as a whole or package deal. We are not saved initially by keeping the Law of Moses. We do not put our foundational trust in the Law of Moses for salvation. We do not put our trust in our works alone for the foundation of our salvation. God’s grace is always the entrance gate and foundation of our salvation. For without our past sin being cleansed or wiped out, we would all be doomed. Doing a good work does not matter if we have the stain of sin still on us from our past life. That is why we need God’s grace. But God’s grace is not a license for immorality (Jude 1:4).

Romans 3:28 says we are justified by faith without the deeds of the Laws of Moses.
What does this faith look like?
To learn more about the faith, check out this thread here.
For in that thread I provide lots of verses showing that faith is more than just a belief alone.
Now, James speaks of works as in relation to the New Testament faith, and not the Law of Moses (or the Old Law). James says we are justified by works and not by faith alone (i.e. a belief alone) (See: James 2:24).

Anyways, I believe Paul is condemning Works ALONE Salvationism (or Law ALONE Salvationism) that did not include God’s grace in Romans 3:27-28. This was by the 613 laws of Moses (or the Old Law that is no more as whole or package deal).

friend of said:

Romans 3:19-20

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Romans 3:19-20 says,
“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

Salvation is not in some kind of cosmic scale balance where our good deeds outweighs our bad deeds. That is how many today think. If a person seeks to be justified by even the Moral Law (like: Do not murder, do not covet, do not steal, etc.) from the Old Law, and they have no grace, they will still stand condemned by God because they have past sin in their old life that needs to be atoned for or blotted out. This is where God’s grace through faith in Christ Jesus comes in. So Romans 3:19-20 is condemning Law Alone Salvationism or Works Alone Salvationism. Nowhere does Romans 3:19-20 condemn how we are to obey Jesus as a part of the Sanctification Process by the Spirit after we are saved by God’s grace. This passage is referring to the error of those who sought to be justified by the Law ALONE without God’s grace because they thought they needed to be circumcised to be initially saved (See again Acts of the Apostles 15:1, Acts of the Apostles 15:5, Acts of the Apostles 15:24, Galatians 5:2, and Galatians 5:4). Paul is concerned here in how a person needs to be initially saved by God’s grace and for them to make that their foundation of their salvation. For surely Law ALONE Salvationism (without God’s grace) will not save anyone.


Side Note:

Verse 20 is referring to the knowledge of sin as in reference to the Moral Law (from the Old Law) in this instance. The Jews learned about sin from the Old Law, but the Law has changed (See: Hebrews 7:12). We are under a New Covenant with New Commands (that comes from Jesus and His followers).

friend of said:

Galatians 2:20-21

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“I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” (Galatians 2:20-21).

Again, this is in reference to keeping the 613 Laws of Moses without God’s grace. This is a condemnation of “Law ALONE Salvationism” (Without God’s grace). Also, if Christ truly lives in a believer, they will have the mind of Christ that Paul talks about in 1 Corinthians 2:16. Would Jesus ever justify sin or evil and or think believers could sin and still be saved? Meaning, how can God (Jesus) reward a person with one day entering His Kingdom if they do evil with no remorse or without any real consequences? It makes no sense in light of justice or the goodness of God (Who is a holy and just God). Sin put Jesus on the cross and He suffered horribly for us. That is how serious sin is to God.

friend of said:

Galatians 2:16

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Galatians 2:16 says,
“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

Again, this is referring to Works ALONE Salvationism (without God’s grace) via by the 613 Laws of Moses. This is referring to Initial Salvation and Foundational Salvation and it is not referring to the call of the gospel which is God has chosen you to salvation through the Sanctification of the Spirit in 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14.

For James says:
“Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.” (James 2:24).

In other words, Paul is condemning the wrong extreme of “Works ALONE Salvationism,” and James is condemning the opposite wrong extreme, which is “Belief Alone Salvationism.”

friend of said:

Galatians 3:12

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“And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.”
(Galatians 3:19).

Is not 1 John 3:23 a Law or Commandment?
Does not that Law tell us to believe in Jesus?
Are we not saved by keeping the Law of 1 John 3:23?
So we can conclude that Paul is talking about the 613 Laws of Moses and not the Laws that come from Jesus Christ, and His followers.

But if you need further proof, Paul says in context,

“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.” (Galatians 3:16-17).

So which Law came 430 years after the promise of Abraham?
The 613 Laws of Moses.
So the Law that is not of the faith for the New Covenant or New Testament is the 613 Laws of Moses as a whole or package deal and this is not in reference to the Laws of Christ mentioned in the New Testament.