Ivermectin Use in Indonesia

People should be allowed to present information and debate ideas. Especially in the case of a pandemic whose origins no one can conclusively and definitely pin down.

anna ~ grace said:

But it is at least possible. That’s a pretty steep and immediate plummet. Even if the plummet is ultimately linked to something else, at least looking into the possibility that it was thanks to ivermectin seems reasonable.

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But theirs no proof. Vaccinations are working and better stuff is working in hospitals . Not ivermectin. There's no point to take it , when the hospital will give you better stuff. I'm sure people, with mild COVID-19 will be fine with eating candy, ivermectin or other crap.

anna ~ grace said:

People should be allowed to present information and debate ideas. Especially in the case of a pandemic whose origins no one can conclusively and definitely pin down.

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Seems that the origin of the pandemic is totally of topic here. Just as irrelevant as posts about the imagined limitations of covid testing. But that's what we get rather than "information" about large-scale studies showing how effective the treatment mentioned in the OP is. I wonder why.

KCfromNC said:

Seems that the origin of the pandemic is totally of topic here. Just as irrelevant as posts about the imagined limitations of covid testing. But that's what we get rather than "information" about large-scale studies showing how effective the treatment mentioned in the OP is. I wonder why.

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In a sense, it is. No one can tell us definitively where it came from. Yet some would tell us how to think about, process, critique, and question everything from the true dangers actually posed by the virus, to how safe and effective the vaccines are.

Doesn’t matter if your own experiences are telling you a given thing. Here’s a study which indicates the opposite. It has graphs and charts and numbers. Trust the study. Not your own experiences with the pandemic, treatments, vaccines, or law enforcement. And even if you (the citizen) are ultimately wrong, you’ll have no platform to even share or bounce your opinions or ideas, as they will be censored and shut down, before anyone can figure out if you’re on to something or not. This is what I am seeing, K. Here, and elsewhere. It is concerning, and dangerous.

Societies and governments which allow no debate or critique of wide-reaching policies tend to be crummy ones to live in.

anna ~ grace said:

In a sense, it is. No one can tell us definitively where it came from. Yet some would tell us how to think about, process, critique, and question everything from the true dangers actually posed by the virus, to how safe and effective the vaccines are.

Doesn’t matter if your own experiences are telling you a given thing. Here’s a study which indicates the opposite. It has graphs and charts and numbers. Trust the study. Not your own experiences with the pandemic, treatments, vaccines, or law enforcement. And even if you (the citizen) are ultimately wrong, you’ll have no platform to even share or bounce your opinions or ideas, as they will be censored and shut down, before anyone can figure out if you’re on to something or not. This is what I am seeing, K. Here, and elsewhere. It is concerning, and dangerous.

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You're really that worried that anecdotes from amateurs aren't given the same weight as rigorous studies by experts?

Here is an easy to understand comparison of how Ivermectin works on COVID-19 and how the new antiviral developed by Pfizer works.


It’s long but there is no easy way to summarize his analysis.

Here is the description of the video

New Pfizer antiviral and ivermectin, a pharmacodynamic analysis New Pfizer antiviral, PF-07321332, C₂₃H₃₂F₃N₅O₄

Here is Dr. Campbell’s description of the new Pfizer antiviral before he compared it to Ivermectin.

Nithavela said:

I thought the claim was that Ivermectin helps with a quick recovery when taken at an early stage. Why would it reduce new cases?

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Hush. If we wanted intelligent questions, we would’ve asked.