DavidPT
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"Why not?"
Because Antiochus IV was not time of the end.
Daniel 8:17, the little horn person is time of the end. He meets his end when he attempts to stand up against the Prince of princes -Jesus. Daniel 8:25.
Which takes place, when he as the beast convinces the kings of the earth to assemble their armies at Armageddon to try and stop Jesus from executing judgment on them, Revelation 19:17-21.
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Regarding the little horn, who cannot be Antiochus IV, ......
In Daniel 8, the angel Gabriel appears in the form of a man to Daniel to explain about the vision of the little horn....
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
In Daniel 9, Gabriel again appears, and again in the form of a man, to Daniel...
21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
What most people do not realize is that the vision referred to in Daniel 9 is the vision that Daniel had in Daniel 8 when he first encountered Gabriel.
Daniel in the first verses of Daniel 9 was praying about the 70 years of Babylonian captivity to be about over... which in Daniei 9:23 is the "matter".
The vision in Daniel 9:23, however, is about the vision of the little horn Daniel had in Daniel 8.
Daniel had no vision in Daniel 9, prior to Gabriel's appearance, nor afterward in Daniel 9. Prior to Gabriel's appearance, Daniel had been speaking to God in prayer, Daniel 9:21.
Gabriel, in Daniel 9:24-27, gave Daniel skill and understanding about the future of his people and Jerusalem, and of the vision of the little horn person - to take place in the 70th week.
The little horn person will be the prince who shall come. Who as the Antichrist will confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 years, as required by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13. Then in the middle part of the 7 years stops the daily sacrifice and commits the transgression of desolation act by going into the temple and claims to have achieved God-hood.
Douggg, can you not see that what is recorded in Daniel 11:31-35 is also recorded in Daniel 12? How can anything recorded in Daniel 12 possibly involve Antiochus 4?
Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
Compare with Daniel 12.
Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Verse 10 involves verse 11 in Daniel 12. Verse 35 in Daniel 11 involves verse 31 in that same chapter. We need to be combining these accounts, not separating them.
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