"Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

prosperity4all said:

"Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

'Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

California synagogue plastered with Hitler flyers in hate crime attack

Manchester Reform Synagogue service ambushed by group with swastikas

‘Holocaust was a scam’ projected on Swedish synagogue during antisemitism summit

Swedish agency suggests exercise in which students argue Holocaust is hoax

Texas schools are being told to teach the Holocaust is hoax

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Just commenting that the Texas thing was just malicious compliance with a ridiculous rule, not actually that happening. But interesting articles.

Many around the world are angry at all Americans, but anyone with any sense knows all Americans are not the same and neither are all Jews the same either, now or in the past.

The innocent are always blamed for the actions of the few and powerfull.

be carefull please .

Col

prosperity4all said:

is Politics becoming more right wing now? because

"Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

'Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

California synagogue plastered with "Hitler was right about the jews" flyers

Manchester Reform Synagogue service ambushed by group with swastikas

‘Holocaust was a scam’ projected on Swedish synagogue during antisemitism summit

Swedish agency suggests exercise in which students say Holocaust is hoax

Texas schools are being told to teach the Holocaust is hoax

why do people think the holocaust is hoax? now because

I don't understand

someone please explain


and


why did adolf hitler feel strong desire to kill all the Jewish people in the world?


and


why have Neo Nazis become totally obsessed with killing all the Jewish people in the world now? because


more and more violent attacks on jewish people now because of Anti-Semitism

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Is this limited to the right wing? We have people in the U.S. Congress who are openly and overtly antisemitic, are they part of the right? What has been done to correct them? Who has been insisting that something should be done to correct them?

prosperity4all said:

is Politics becoming more right wing now?

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Everyone used to sympathize with the Jews after the Holocaust. This image has been utterly tarnished because of reasons the latest of which is in this recent (10/24/21) article:

Israel announces plans to build 1,300 new West Bank settlement homes

Andrewn said:

Everyone used to sympathize with the Jews after the Holocaust. This image has been utterly tarnished because of reasons the latest of which is in this recent (10/24/21) article:

Israel announces plans to build 1,300 new West Bank settlement homes

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Lebensraum

Andrewn said:

Everyone used to sympathize with the Jews after the Holocaust. This image has been utterly tarnished because of reasons the latest of which is in this recent (10/24/21) article:

Israel announces plans to build 1,300 new West Bank settlement homes

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What I'd like to know is the Israeli government forbidding their Arab community as individual citizens of that country from buying one of these settlement homes? Or is this one of those news stories that isn't telling people the whole story.

I'm sorry, OP, but I was under the impression that neo-Nazis were always all about killing all the Jews in the world...that didn't just happen recently. They're neo-Nazis, and that idea was the Nazis' whole deal.

So...yeah. Anti-Semitic boneheads still exist, unfortunately. You can't keep a bad idea down, unfortunately, without a stronger good idea to beat it with, and I guess in some cases, whatever should be filling the ideological void that is drawing these people into Nazism is not doing the job. (And in some cases people are raised with that hate, sadly.)

prosperity4all said:

is Politics becoming more right wing now? because

"Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

'Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

California synagogue plastered with "Hitler was right about the jews" flyers

Manchester Reform Synagogue service ambushed by group with swastikas

‘Holocaust was a scam’ projected on Swedish synagogue during antisemitism summit

Swedish agency suggests exercise in which students say Holocaust is hoax

Texas schools are being told to teach the Holocaust is hoax

why do people think the holocaust is hoax? now because

I don't understand

someone please explain


and


why did adolf hitler feel strong desire to kill all the Jewish people in the world?


and


why have Neo Nazis become totally obsessed with killing all the Jewish people in the world now? because


more and more violent attacks on jewish people now because of Anti-Semitism

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There seems to be various impulses that lead to antisemitism. Certainly, the history of Christians considering Jews as Christ-killers is one causal factor. This sentiment of branding the whole people (as if Gentiles somehow weren't involved) goes back to our earliest writings (e.g. Justin Martyr). Some would argue it goes back to the NT (they will often cite the Gospel of John, for example). At any rate, that is a part of our history as Christians that should be acknowledged and rejected as outside Christ, I think.

Random link with examples:
They Called Me Christ Killer

I think far right extremists like to deny the Holocaust because, if successful, it would negate one of the most salient examples of what that kind of ideology leads to. Of course, some right extremists believe it didn't happen, which supports their delusional and dangerous ideology, but some know good and well they're lying.

Extremists aren't big on truth. They support whatever supports the ideology. I don't know if politics is become more extreme to the right. I think it's becoming more extreme, tout court. Being politically extreme seems to have become the norm, which is not good for anybody. Extremists don't get things done, they just tear stuff up.

There is antisemitism on the left. Certainly, some of the actions of modern Israel towards Palestinians are subject to critique, or should be. But it goes further than that, I think. Some folks on the left seem to be very antagonistic toward the modern state and wouldn't lose sleep if it didn't exist, which is antisemitism I would think. Of course, most of this my opinion, but I wonder how much of the antagonism is related to the strong support conservative Christians give the modern state.

And then, of course, there is the antagonism between some Muslims and Jews. It's easy to pin it in the modern state, but that antagonism goes back centuries.

It's easy to find reasons people might have for antisemitism, but it sure is complicated. I think for Christians, it's essential to try to take a nuanced view and avoid extremes. People love to hate people, and that is just not an option available to us if we want to reflect and embody the love of Christ.

Hi @prosperity4all

prosperity4all said:

is Politics becoming more right wing now? because

"Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

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I'm curious why you would somehow connect a hateful act by some person who is full of hate for a people as being political? As far as I can see, this is just a bigot who hates Jewish people/race. It's no different than the bigots who display and voice anger and hatred towards those coming across our borders, those who promote and proclaim that blacks are undeserving. It's just a person who had grown up with and adopted a hate for a group of people based on race, religion or ethnicity. They can be Democrat or Republican. They can be left or right. Personally, as I understand left and right, the person who has done this is more left of what most people believe.

I worked with a man who was a very, very strong bigot and wasn't ashamed to proclaim it loud and proud. I remember having a conversation with him in a McDonalds during lunch one day when he seemed to speak just a little louder than the conversation between us required that his sons weren't going to grow up having to work with N and W(etbacks) like were at the McDonald's counter. Those sons are now out there somewhere and I imagine that they're just as bigoted as he was and, given the opportunity, may likely be spewing the same hateful rhetoric that their dad did.

For the most part, I believe that it's a learned attitude from home, but I'm sure that some get themselves involved in some groups that support and teach such 'life' lessons. I will admit that in reading the recent news, it certainly seems to be a problem more prevalent with the Republican party, and those who follow such a political ideology, but I certainly don't think it's only an attitude of many Republicans. People gotta hate!

We have to hate these people coming across our borders because we fear they're going to take our stuff. They're going to take advantage of us all somehow. They aren't like us. They aren't deserving of 'all that we've got'. Personally, I try to see people, and it's a work in progress for me, as I believe that God sees them. He doesn't see national or state or county borders when He looks upon the earth. He just sees people. People created in his image all over the world lost in their sin with some who think they've gotten the brass ring kicking with their boots those who would like to have a hold of the brass ring. I suppose that's a 'left' leaning understanding of the world, but I choose to see it as a 'godly' understanding of the world. So, who is more 'christian'? Those who want to keep all their stuff pulled to them with strong arms and locked fingers and deny others the opportunity to gather the same? Or those who are willing to try to help out others of the world who are searching for help out of their poverty and misery?

We've had a border problem, as many see it for at least the last couple of decades, and still the United States is a strong, wealthy nation where jobs have always been plentiful, except of course for a few crisis points. Consider what a booming economy we would have if we did let everyone who wanted to come to our shores...come. Just as that sign says at New York Harbor.

God bless,
Ted

prosperity4all said:

is Politics becoming more right wing now? because

"Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

'Hitler was right about the jews" posters plastered on California synagogue

California synagogue plastered with "Hitler was right about the jews" flyers

Manchester Reform Synagogue service ambushed by group with swastikas

‘Holocaust was a scam’ projected on Swedish synagogue during antisemitism summit

Swedish agency suggests exercise in which students say Holocaust is hoax

Texas schools are being told to teach the Holocaust is hoax

why do people think the holocaust is hoax? now because

I don't understand

someone please explain


and


why did adolf hitler feel strong desire to kill all the Jewish people in the world?


and


why have Neo Nazis become totally obsessed with killing all the Jewish people in the world now? because


more and more violent attacks on jewish people now because of Anti-Semitism

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Europe has always had a problem with anti-semitism, they try to mask it, but it just under the surface. Holocaust denial is a combination of anti-semitism, evil, and the fact that the vast scale of holocaust is to much for some people to grasp...denial, minimizing and deflection is easier than facing the truth.

As far as what happened in California... Stupid people, living miserable lives, looking for someone to blame for their poor choices.

prosperity4all said:

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Here in the UK, only one mainstream political party has ever had the dishonour of being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. That political party is the Labour Party (for non-British readers, Labour are on the left of the political spectrum). They were investigated for anti-semitism, and the investigation found that the left-wing Labour Party had committed unlawful acts.

Investigation into the Labour Party
Our action
We investigated allegations of antisemitism in the Labour Party.

Read the report
Read our full report and recommendations

What this covers
We looked at:

• whether the Labour Party has committed unlawful acts, through the actions of its employees or agents
• whether the Party has handled antisemitism complaints in a lawful, efficient and effective way
• whether the Rule Book and the Party’s complaint handling processes have enabled or could enable it to deal with antisemitism complaints efficiently and effectively, including whether appropriate sanctions have been or could be applied
• the steps taken by the Party to implement the recommendations made in the Chakrabarti, Royall and Home Affairs Select Committee reports

Download the full terms of reference, 161KB (PDF)

Why we are involved
We contacted the Labour Party after receiving a number of complaints about allegations of antisemitism in the Party.

We considered the Labour Party’s response carefully and opened a formal investigation using our powers under the Equality Act.

The result
Our investigation found that the Labour Party has committed unlawful acts.

We have published a report about our findings, including our recommendations for change.

The Labour Party is now legally obliged to draft an action plan to tackle the unlawful act findings we made. This should be based on our recommendations.

Once the action plan is agreed, we will continue to monitor it. If the Labour Party fails to live up to its commitments in the legally binding action plan, then we may take enforcement action.

Norbert L said:

What I'd like to know is the Israeli government forbidding their Arab community as individual citizens of that country from buying one of these settlement homes? Or is this one of those news stories that isn't telling people the whole story.

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Yes, they are forbidding their Arab community as individual citizens of that country from buying any of these settlement homes. Not only that but they take possession of Palestinian's land and demolish their homes in the process. This is why the US and the EU have criticized Israel's plans.

https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/10/european-countries-call-israel-reverse-settlement-plans

Norbert L said:

What I'd like to know is the Israeli government forbidding their Arab community as individual citizens of that country from buying one of these settlement homes? Or is this one of those news stories that isn't telling people the whole story.

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So....
Someone steals your house and then, so long as it would be LEGALLY permitted for your to buy your house back, you're kosher with the house being taken in the first place?

To address the OP:
1) Right wing extremism has always been a thing.
2) All federal agencies have made it painfully clear that far right violence is becoming more common place (in the 80s, it was left wing...now it's the right).
3) Many right leaning Americans play some weeeeeeeeird mental gymnastics in lieu of just condemning racism or antisemitism.
4) It's important to differentiate between anti-zionism and anti-semitism.
I know quite a few anti-zionists who would not consider themselves anti-semitic at all. Even know a couple Jewish folk who fit that description.

rambot said:

So....
Someone steals your house and then, so long as it would be LEGALLY permitted for your to buy your house back, you're kosher with the house being taken in the first place?

To address the OP:
1) Right wing extremism has always been a thing.
2) All federal agencies have made it painfully clear that far right violence is becoming more common place (in the 80s, it was left wing...now it's the right).
3) Many right leaning Americans play some weeeeeeeeird mental gymnastics in lieu of just condemning racism or antisemitism.
4) It's important to differentiate between anti-zionism and anti-semitism.
I know quite a few anti-zionists who would not consider themselves anti-semitic at all. Even know a couple Jewish folk who fit that description.

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I understand, and agree with most of what you have written. However, the West Bank, settlement issue is complex and little understood by most people. There is no easy answer to the problem.

I would recommend reading two books:

1. No victor, no vanquished
2. From Beirut to Jerusalem

Both are easy reads...blessings

Silverback said:

I understand, and agree with most of what you have written. However, the West Bank, settlement issue is complex and little understood by most people. There is no easy answer to the problem.

I would recommend reading two books:

1. No victor, no vanquished
2. From Beirut to Jerusalem

Both are easy reads...blessings

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Thanks but could you give me a Coles notes? I'm not a huge reader...

rambot said:

So....
Someone steals your house and then, so long as it would be LEGALLY permitted for your to buy your house back, you're kosher with the house being taken in the first place?

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You're answering the question like a politician by not having an answer. If you don't know, then there is no shame in that.

prosperity4all said:

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Probably not. It's the left-wing of the Democratic Party that is the most actively anti-Semitic force in the country these days.

And they don't just put up posters in the middle of the night. In their case, a half-dozen or so Democratic members of Congress have the ability to push anti-Semitic legislation and make their speeches and demands with the complete cooperation of Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, who appears to be afraid of them, and without any significant pushback against this from the other Democratic members.

Andrewn said:

Yes, they are forbidding their Arab community as individual citizens of that country from buying any of these settlement homes. Not only that but they take possession of Palestinian's land and demolish their homes in the process. This is why the US and the EU have criticized Israel's plans.

European countries call on Israel to reverse settlement plans

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The article doesn't make the claim that Arab-Israeli people can't buy one of these homes. It's about a two state solution. At least you gave an answer but hearsay isn't reliable.

Albion said:

Probably not. It's the left-wing of the Democratic Party that is the most actively anti-Semitic force in the country these days.

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