The Great Chapter of Isaiah 29

Is there any scientific evidence that an unusually large Coronal Mass Ejection would cause widespread fires on the planet's surface, plus earthquakes and powerful storms? For a piece of paper to ignite it would need to be at least over 400 degrees Fahrenheit.

140c isn't hot enough to cause fire. Ovens don't use fire to cook, only heat.

Also, for Israel, war, famine, plague and wild beasts are the only punishments or chastisements. Fire is for those who refuse to repent - which would include such disasters as volcanic eruptions, large earthquakes, tsunamis, asteroid strikes, forest and oil well fires, and nuclear detonations.

Yes, the Wrath of God includes fire, but Israel is not subject to God's wrath, only to chastisement (Rev 3:19). Wrath means total destruction such that the sins committed in that place will never be repeated again by the ethnic group then living there.

A CME has never caused fire that we know of, but an asteroid strike could, such as found in Rev 8:7-9, the first and second trumpets. The known effect of a CME is to destroy all the electrical infrastructure and create huge auroras.

There are many dreams, visions and prophecies on the internet of future asteroid strikes at this time, (Asteroid Archives - 444 Prophecy News for example) but nothing about a huge CME If a CME strong enough to cause fire hit the earth there would be no survivors since anything above a temperature of about 150 degrees would be fatal.

Kenneth Heck said:

Yes, the Wrath of God includes fire, but Israel is not subject to God's wrath, only to chastisement (Rev 3:19). Wrath means total destruction such that the sins committed in that place will never be repeated again by the ethnic group then living there.

A CME has never caused fire that we know of, but an asteroid strike could, such as found in Rev 8:7-9, the first and second trumpets. The known effect of a CME is to destroy all the electrical infrastructure and create huge auroras.

There are many dreams, visions and prophecies on the internet of future asteroid strikes at this time, (Asteroid Archives - 444 Prophecy News for example) but nothing about a huge CME If a CME strong enough to cause fire hit the earth there would be no survivors since anything above a temperature of about 150 degrees would be fatal.

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There is a movie that alledges what a major CME could do, but only one that I have seen so far. It is Solar Attack 2006.


It starts out almost portraying the sun as having a mind and protecting itself from a human probe (satalite) sent to study the sun, but that thought is never developed.

The destruction alledged by a CME, is the upper atmosphere containing unstoppable fires. How realistic this is may be in question. The point that when this fire completely surrounds the earth, while not literally burning up the earth it would suck out all the oxygen, and life would die off that needed such oxygen. The issue would be, would this fire draw out oxygen faster than trees and plants could produce it. Who knows?

So the atmosphere does prevent a CME from sending "balls" of fire, because CME's do not have the density of a solid object like a planet or moon that would be a "ball of fire". Most solid impacts start burning because of the friction at great speeds of entry in the atmosphere. It is the gasses in the atmosphere itself creating fire, not the solid object bringing a "ball of fire". A CME would have neither speed nor density going for them. The atmosphere would and does slow them down. The issue is, can a huge CME actually cause the atmosphere itself to combust and burn, not stuff on the surface?

If God removes the heavens, then certainly an alledged CME would have nothing naturally to stop it, and that "wall of fire" would certainly not stop at the level of the atmosphere. It would be like the sun using a flame thrower of unlimited gas directly at the earth.

Of course all of this speculation is based on the speculation the sun is literally a ball of gas bigger than the earth itself. God claims the sun is just a light confined in the very atmosphere of the earth itself, called the heavens. Genesis 1.

I have seen this movie since it stars Mark Dacascos and Joanne Kelly, both personal favorites. Hollywood seems to have done its job in bringing up all possible disaster scenarios over the years - both realistic and fantastic - and perhaps as potentially prophetic for the unprophetically minded.

But scientists say that no CME, however powerful, can destroy the earth. See - 2012: Killer Solar Flares Are a Physical Impossibility for example. I think this would include ravaging the earth's surface with fire.

Any CME heating up the upper atmosphere will create nitric oxide which rapidly cools down the heated region according to Researchers dial in to 'thermostat' in Earth’s upper atmosphere

The fires mentioned in the scriptures will undoubtedly happen, but very unlikely due to a CME.

Kenneth Heck said:

I have seen this movie since it stars Mark Dacascos and Joanne Kelly, both personal favorites. Hollywood seems to have done its job in bringing up all possible disaster scenarios over the years - both realistic and fantastic - and perhaps as potentially prophetic for the unprophetically minded.

But scientists say that no CME, however powerful, can destroy the earth. See - 2012: Killer Solar Flares Are a Physical Impossibility for example. I think this would include ravaging the earth's surface with fire.

Any CME heating up the upper atmosphere will create nitric oxide which rapidly cools down the heated region according to Researchers dial in to 'thermostat' in Earth’s upper atmosphere

The fires mentioned in the scriptures will undoubtedly happen, but very unlikely due to a CME.

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It is funny that most of the disaster portrayals call for the whole earth to be flooded with water.

They are about 4500 years late for that scenario.

keras said:

Depends which Israel you mean. The Bible prophesies are clear: Jewish Israelis will be destroyed and only a Christian remnant will survive.
The faithful Christian peoples of God, His true Israelites, will be protected.

The CME which the Lord will instigate on His Day of wrath, will be of unprecedented magnitude. It will cause fire as prophesied.
An asteroid or comet strike simply does not relate to what the Prophets tell us.

Isaiah 34:4 and Revelation 6:14 both say how the atmosphere will be pushed aside at the point of impact.

Facts, not speculation.
CME's are well researched and NASA knows of their very real threat to our civilization.

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Some of the scientific facts go against the Word of God and are hypothetical speculations. God can send fire from heaven and not involve the sun at all. God can choose to incinerate specific targets and leave other items like humans unscathed. Natural phenomenon can not discriminate because creation does not have a mind of it's own to pick and choose what is destroyed and what is not. God can use natural phenomenon. That is not the point. Whatever happens will still be nature that is not working within created parameters, but it will be precisely controlled by God for a specific purpose.

keras said:

What will happen very soon:
Suddenly, in an instant punishment will come from the heavens. The Lord will act in His wrath against all those who make war against Jerusalem, all those who surround Israel. With a great noise amid flames of devouring fire, earthquakes and powerful storms, they will disappear like a dream, like a vision of the night – gone when you awake. So it will be with the horde of nations who attack the holy Land. They will crumble into dust and be blown away like chaff. Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Revelation 6:12-17
This is quite a different event from Armageddon, it is the many prophesied Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, a literal day of a Coronal Mass Ejection sunspot explosion. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7

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Except that - as I've explained many many times before - fire is often a sign of ancient warfare and armies marching in judgement that the Old Testament prophet actually got to see happen in their lifetime. There are very few "Day of the Lord" passages in the OT that are open ended for today. But they are shadows and types of the great day of Judgement to come - but that will not be anything as insignificant or temporal as a mere CME.

Belief in wrong teaching leads to an inability to understand the truth:
If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused, if you blind yourself, you will stay blinded. Be drunk, but not with strong drink, for the Lord has poured upon you a spirit of deep stupor. He has closed your eyes to prophetic understanding and muffled your heads; your so called, wise teachers. For you the Prophetic vision of the end times is like a sealed book that you cannot read. Isaiah 6:9-10, Acts 13:41

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Only you understand - right?
Your special vision?
Your special vibe on this?
We have been here before:

Keras's special vision:
"I am just a humble servant of the Most High God. He gave me a task: to promote what His prophets wrote so long ago, because what they wrote then, is about to happen soon. I know this, because in 2010, when I was in the Holy Land; I received a vision from the Lord and inspiration to do this." The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations

"I did have a vision and I surely have had help from the HS to do what I have done. Other people have His help, to do evangelism, etc. God has not given so much prophecy to us without some people knowing how the end times will unfold, as Daniel 12:10 says; a few will understand. But the majority, especially those who grip onto false theories, will be shocked and surprised at what will soon happen."
4 Reasons John was writing a gospel sermon about suffering under Rome

"Sure, there were many who foolishly made wrong predictions. The reason for that is found in Daniel 12:4 & 9. They lived years before the end times. I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return. I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth."
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations


1. Show me one other person that agrees with your timetable and timing - and that came to it independently and not from your website? Because I simply don't believe it when you say "a few will understand" it your way.

2. If you and you alone are the only person God chose to give 'a vision' to - why aren't you drowning in thousands of followers? I mean, there's probably hundreds of millions of Christians on earth so why doesn't he want his children to know this little detail about the DATE OF THE END OF THE WORLD? Oh that's right - although God wrote it down in the bible - only YOU can understand it. Everyone else has a spirit of confusion. Especially those other guys (even from your own country) who had other 'competing' visions - you said he had 'weird beliefs' remember? Hosea's End Time Prophesies

3. Do you believe 2 Timothy 3:16-17, that God can 'thoroughly equip' us through his word? Don't you think knowing about the date of the anti-Christ is the whole point of the book of Revelation - but only a few get to understand it?

4. In a similar vein, if you read Revelation 1 it seems John wants his generation to hear and OBEY his message - not totally cloud it up! These things are starting SOON, for the TIME IS NEAR, for HE shares in their TRIBULATION, and they are to OBEY his whole message! No one is to cut any out. They shouldn't tamper with it by redacting it, or reinterpreting the majority of the book as being inaccessible to THEM! THEY are to OBEY it and it is utterly impossible to obey a message that's only going to unfold in 2000 years. EG: Imagine John wrote to us something like.... "The Cyborgs will gnarfle the Whomping Frothy-bods in the year 4000AD on the sides of Olympus Mons, and all who hear it must flee." Now OBEY THIS!

5. Your personal vision is exactly like the Koran - a subjective, untestable statement that "You had a dream."

I'm glad the bible lets me ignore that kind of subjectivity. My faith is profoundly shaped by John 3:16 and 2 Timothy 3:16! "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be *thoroughly* equipped for every good work." The bible is all I need to be thoroughly equipped to do EVERY good work.

If it isn't in the bible - I just don't need it.
If you can't convince me from the bible - you can't convince me, period.

6. The other reason is you are already a failed prophet. You fell for the 2012 prediction - and that didn't happen! Deuteronomy 18:22 comes to mind. "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed."

7: So the bible is all we need, as the theologians I read attest. I am also specifically told to ignore presumptuous failed prophets. Oh well. You tried - but it might be time to delete your website.

keras said:

a literal day of a Coronal Mass Ejection sunspot explosion

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And then shall the Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming (2 Thessalonians 2:8).

Hebrews 12:29 KJV
For our God is a consuming fire.

Deuteronomy 4:24 KJV
For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

These scriptures due not support your teaching of a CME

To Keras

Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Definition of testimony per the Word

Exodus 25:16
And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee.

Exodus 25:21
And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.

Exodus 40:20 King James Version
20 And he took and put the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark


The ten commandments are the testimony

You deny the fourth commandment (law and testimony) which specify the Seventh Day of the week as the Sabbath of the Lord, thus IMHO (based on scripture) you have no light to share.

keras said:

Hebrews 10:25-27 Keep up your fellowship and encourage one another, as we see the Day of the Lord drawing near. For if we deliberately persist in sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, then there can be no further atonement and there remains only a terrifying expectation of the fierce fire that will consume God’s enemies. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

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I don't understand Happy Camper getting fixated on what day we meet on when Keras is slowly turning parts of the New Testament's witness to eternal punishment into a mere astronomical event! His CME business is almost becoming another religion when he reads passages like this as solar?

Original Happy Camper said:

The ten commandments are the testimony

You deny the fourth commandment (law and testimony) which specify the Seventh Day of the week as the Sabbath of the Lord, thus IMHO (based on scripture) you have no light to share.

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Yeah, nah mate.
First of all, use a more modern translation. You are deliberately avoiding the plain meaning of the text here to make over-reaching claims.
Second, the NIV says it clearly - and the implications are what you were trying to avoid.
"Then put in the ark the tablets of the covenant law, which I will give you."
Third, Christians are not under law but under Christ.
You're almost attacking the REAL testimony - the very gospel of grace that saves us.
Re-read and memorise Romans and Galatians and Hebrews and hopefully the right Biblical Theology (how the OT and NT relate to each other) will sink in.
Also, see Hebrews on 'making every effort to enter that rest' and you will see that the Sabbath was always about our eternal hope in Jesus - where we find true rest.