Biden Admin Names Levine, a Man, the 'First-Ever Female Four-Star Admiral' in Public Health Corps

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What we don't know however, is whether the horse self-identifies as male or female.

Don't tell the horse breeders that. If the horses can't voice their sexual choices, the breeders may have to be prevented from mating the horses "against their will".
 
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How do people not see the major problems with this?

I think it might have something to do with this:

2 Thessalonians 2:11
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie
 
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...Did you miss the "Misandry is not uncommon with them" part of my comment?

It didn't make any difference, considering that traditional women also disagree that transwomen are women in all aspects.
 
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I just checked my email and this was sitting in my inbox from a feminist source:

Gaslighting America: It's time to put political purity aside and do what's right

Some things from the article:

"What kind of planet are we living on wherein we all pretend putting yet another man into a role that has always been filled by men equates to “a giant step forward towards equality as a nation”? Or “a history-making show of diversity and inclusion”? Has there never before been a man who enjoys wearing women’s clothing in such a position? Do they screen men for fetishes before they can be appointed to admiral? Clearly they don’t screen them for having spent time as military officers, as Levine has not had any military career to speak of. I suppose his time spent in dresses makes up for his lack of service."

"To be fair, political appointees are sometimes granted admiral status, though it is unclear whether or not this is determined by heroic acts like directing long-term care facilities to accept Covid patients, leading to the deaths of thousands of elderly people in said facilities, which Levine did, removing his own mother from her care home, to be safe. It is also unclear whether one’s belief that giving puberty blockers to kids, effectively preventing them from developing normally and into healthy adults, can be “life-saving” qualifies one to such a high rank."

"Women are currently facing the biggest threat to their rights and dignity they have in decades. A triumph for men is being claimed as a triumph for women. We are being mocked, publicly and unabashedly. This is no time for politeness or public self-righteousness. You are not better for having avoided those outside your political tribe. It is long past time we learn from our mistakes as current or ex-leftists and ideologues, which is that doing what is right and telling the truth is not a partisan matter."
 
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Yes, validating the delusions that men can be women and women can be men is harmful not helpful.
According to what expert? Last I checked the treatment for gender dysphoria was that they are the sex they identify with mentally and to treat them as such.
 
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According to what expert? Last I checked the treatment for gender dysphoria was that they are the sex they identify with mentally and to treat them as such.

It's one thing to treat a person how they choose to identify as part of a treatment for a miniscule amount of the population with actual gender dysphoria, but it's not the norm for society in general and therefore society is under no obligation to pretend to lies presented as truth. It is simply fact that men cannot actually become women or vice versa, and we don't need an "expert" to verify that fact or help us figure out how to tell the difference between a male and a female.
 
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It's one thing to treat a person how they choose to identify as part of a treatment for a miniscule amount of the population with actual gender dysphoria, but it's not the norm for society in general and therefore society is under no obligation to pretend to lies presented as truth.

A lie according to whom? You? I don't think you have been appointed arbiter of truth.

It is simply fact that men cannot actually become women or vice versa, and we don't need an "expert" to verify that fact or help us figure out how to tell the difference between a male and a female.
Yes, I have noticed the general disdain for those who might be learned in the subject. I also notice the way trans people are treated by those who hold such views. "Love" and "empathy" are not words that come to mind.
 
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A lie according to whom? You? I don't think you have been appointed arbiter of truth.

No, but I understand basic human biology in the matter. You put a male and female mammal together, such as mice, and they can produce baby mice. You put two male mice together or you put two female mice together and no offspring are ever going to be produced. It's the same for humans. I just don't see the difficulty here or why an "arbiter of truth" is required.

Yes, I have noticed the general disdain for those who might be learned in the subject. I also notice the way trans people are treated by those who hold such views. "Love" and "empathy" are not words that come to mind.

Oh you mean the trans people who are also cancelled and threatened with violence by their trans-radical "brethren" because they also believe that biological sex is real and just choose to identify otherwise?
 
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Never ceases to amaze me how much disgust and bile some can summon up towards people they don't know and who don't effect their lives in any way.

The person being discussed in this thread is a government official, and government officials affect our lives more than we know.
 
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No, but I understand basic human biology in the matter. You put a male and female mammal together, such as mice, and they can produce baby mice. You put two male mice together or you put two female mice together and no offspring are ever going to be produced. It's the same for humans. I just don't see the difficulty here or why an "arbiter of truth" is required.

Why does that matter? This subject is much more complex then basic biology.


Oh you mean the trans people who are also cancelled and threatened with violence by their trans-radical "brethren" because they also believe that biological sex is real and just choose to identify otherwise?

That makes it OK for others to treat them poorly?
 
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There's no trouble at all, but that's why they want to add some confusion--even on their birth certificate:

"New Jersey residents and those born in the Garden State will soon have the choice of selecting a gender-neutral option on their birth certificates.

The new law goes into effect Friday, and will include three birth certificate gender options: "female, male, or undesignated/nonbinary," according to the law's text.

The Babs Siperstein Law, as the legislation is called, is named after the lifelong N.J. resident and first transgender person to become a member of the Democratic National Committee, where she served until 2017."
My assumption is that this would be used to cover intersex babies. These are people who are born exhibiting physical traits that don't conform to male or female standards in terms of reproductive organs (the link gives some examples). Historically, doctors and parents have been forced to label such a child as male or female at birth, and quite often, the gender that they choose is incorrect. Adding a "nonbinary" option gives families a way to avoid pressuring their child to conform to a specific gender norm as they develop.
 
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Why does that matter? This subject is much more complex then basic biology.

No, it's really not.

That makes it OK for others to treat them poorly?

The trans-radical definition of being treated poorly is merely disagreeing with an ideology that is based on lies.
 
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The person being discussed in this thread is a government official, and government officials affect our lives more than we know.

Not just a government official, but the senior advisor to the Executive and Legislative Branches on medical matters.
 
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No, it's really not.

Actual experts disagree.


The trans-radical definition of being treated poorly is merely disagreeing with an ideology that is based on lies.

<Looks at the number of transsexuals who have been beaten and killed>
Yes yes. Those pathetic liars are just so sensitive. It is not like anyone accuses them of lying about their lived experience that is backed up by research.
 
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Well, he's a man dressing up as a woman because he apparently doesn't know which sex he is. That should call into question anything he says concerning anyone else's health.

You get the prize for finally saying it.

End of discussion!

Thank you.
 
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I like how here you relate being the opposite sex as an entirely different species.

Talk about biological illiteracy…

Aldebaran was doing nothing more than bringing to light JUST how ludicrous the whole subject of Transgender-ism actually is, and how someone who believes that changing the sex of a human being can be achieved by removing or adding parts of the physical anatomy is delusional at best.

It is a way of getting around being identified as a Homosexual, with all of the stigma connected with that label, while at the same time being wholly accepted and lauded as a hero for their new deviant behavior.
 
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